He has been asked already, he didn't want to elaborate. I doubt you'll get much out of anybody, especially if they still work there.
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SNES PlayStation Prototype Gets Turned On, Opened Up
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Prototype Viktor
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They should donate it to "will it blend"
I'd certainly love to own this thing, and can't deny being immensely jealous.
But I'm not sure how much I could really do. It's already mostly non-functional, and reverse engineering stresses the hell out of production-class hardware (I've burned out my share of SNES decks before.)
There's also no actual data for it, so we wouldn't have anything to actually emulate.
Plus they won't even part with it for an amount of money that not even I could afford. (and I've bought up complete-in-box sets for the entire US and Japanese SNES libraries.)
Now if that Seiken Densetsu 2 prototype CD ever surfaced, we could most likely get that emulated just from the software alone. But even if such a disc existed, it would most certainly be on a CD-R and well ... a CD-R from the '90s would be a coaster by today, almost guaranteed. Sorry guys.
I would like to see the BIOS dumped off of that cart for posterity, and I hope they can find someone capable of doing that the right way (not just sticking it in a Retrode or something.)
But I doubt that person would be me. Because, honestly speaking, I've been quite critical of their handling of this thing.
The original Youtube video had the guy holding the thing in one hand and waving it around in the air. The new video has the guy having it just sitting there on his lap with his arms up on the couch. I don't expect them to be in lab suits in specialized rooms and treating it like the holy grail, but come on. A little reverence would be nice.
As for being in a museum, eh. So people could go and take their own photographs of the outer casing? I mean seriously, how silly is this?
People are going to the actual Mona Lisa, to take crappy cellphone pictures of what is one of the most reproduced images in human history.
What I'd love to see are 1200dpi CCD scans of both sides of all the PCBs (so we can trace out all the parts, get an idea of -exactly- how it would have worked, etc), and a perfect CAD model of the entire case. Maybe even throw it out there to a plastics fab to spin off a few hundred empty shell versions just so people can have a fun little conversation piece. Maybe throw a hardware clone into the case (don't ruin real decks, please) and a reproduction of that BIOS cart and controller. Not to fool anyone, but to allow others to play around with a functional simulation. -Then- put it in a glass case forever for people to go see, sure.
Drilbit777
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I respect them for wanting to put this in a museum rather than just selling it off to a private collector. This is a piece of gaming history that needs to be seen by the entire world and it would be far better preserved there.
Now hopefully people seeing you say it will get the idea out of their heads that somehow you're the Keymaster of Gozer who will manifest ancient PlayStation games out of thin air.
Weird. It's a shame, as I personally would have loved a hybrid system such as this one.
Stadium Events on NES goes for just under that. This would be well over that.
runnin_blue
Banned
I totally agree with this. It breaks my heart everytime I see someone gut an original cart or system. It's blasphemy in my eyes. The things aren't made anymore, their number is finite ffs.
DracoBlade
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I think they'll more than likely put it in a museum afterall, the attention and constant message boards conversations have cemented its significance in gaming history, I did a writeup actually months ago trying to collect all the history behind it. Its undeniably the single most signicant relic in regards to the modern gaming and how it came to be.
Oh, absolutely. It was amazingly generous of them to allow others to X-ray the machine, take it apart, show it off to a video crew, and especially that offer to give it to a museum. Even if they take a sizable payment, it won't match what the free market would give them.
They're definitely great people. And it's awesome that they've allowed everyone to see this thing, even if only in photos/videos.
I just worry. A baseball collector would probably freak out if someone were handling a loose T206 Honus Wagner with their bare hands. And there's five dozen of those.
Absolute best case, it'd be a significantly inferior version of the MSU1. You couldn't even trust that we emulated it correctly, because we'd have nothing to verify the code against.
If people want to simulate this, they can simply avoid reading data while playing audio, and add delays between every block of data read back to match the rate of a 1x CD-ROM drive. But nobody's going to spend years making a masterpiece of a game for such a thing. Not the least because it's a huge pain in the ass to program for even just the plain SNES.
Just one single SNES-CD game though. Just one ... would change everything, and I'd be all over emulating it.
Right?? Even if it's lower quality. I'd throw an Intel NUC mainboard inside of there, and hook up SNES controller<>USB adapters to the front ports. Put together a little emulator UI that can be controlled by it. Stick a spare JP Zelda 3 cart in there for aesthetics. Beautiful.
Yeah, stuff like this, Campus Challenge, Powerfest, and SNES-CD aren't for gamers. This is rich person exclusivity bragging rights territory. Not to play, but to put in a case, invite friends over, and say, "Look at what I have! Aren't you jealous?" ... and yes, of course we are.
Beer Monkey
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Well, I owned a PC-Engine Duo-RX for years, so it's easy for me to imagine.
dickroach
Member
as if they "just plugged it into any old source" it'd short out or something? i don't get it.
whatever. you're my fav gaf poster. if you buy it i buy it.
LuigiBlood
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About the specs of the system, I wrote this analysis of the pictures: http://luigiblood.tumblr.com/post/132730812143/here-are-my-research-about-the-snes-playstation
About dumping the cartridge, I asked him 2 times about that and mentioned about putting the ROM online: He said yes both times.
EDIT:
Our owner posted a video about it + the video of the first boot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT15xl4ZzOI
About dumping the cartridge, I asked him 2 times about that and mentioned about putting the ROM online: He said yes both times.
EDIT:
Our owner posted a video about it + the video of the first boot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT15xl4ZzOI
IbizaPocholo
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Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
Wow-this is incredibly cool. Looks like he has a PS1 stuffed inside a BSX case. Really curious to see how he is passing through controls and video. Also hope that isn't a real BSX-would be a shame to tear one of those up.
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