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SNES RPgs that were never released in the US

Don't want to start a new topic so sorry if this is a bit OT. I have always wondered why Nintendo never wanted to bring RPGs to PAL land...It seemed like if only ARPGS could be brought here...At least North America got DQ, FF III, Chronno Trigger, Super Mario RPG...It makes no sense why they acted that way.
Perhaps the fact that the Genesis was doing so much better is the reason...
 
Final Fantasy 5 - My favorite game in the series, play on SFC instead of PSX. If you're playing a translation, RPGe did a much better job than the "official" translation.

Live A Live - I CAN'T RECOMMEND THIS ENOUGH! I wrote a big review here, on my 1up site I never update

Star Ocean - Awesome, awesome game and the start to one of my favorite game series.

Seiken Densetsu 3 - Beautiful graphics and music, but the boss fights are fairly drawn out.

Tales of Phantasia - See where the Tales series started. Long as hell game with some gorgeous graphics and a typical Tales "throw everything at you and hope it sticks" story.

Elfaria II - Haven't played much of it but it has an almost MMO style battle system, where guys constantly attack but you can dole out commands to them.

Dragonquest IIIr, V, and VI - You know the deal with these games. If you're a fan of the series they're all recommended playing.

FEDA:The Emblem of Justice - A total Shining Force rip but a decent game, especially if you like Shining.

Treasure Hunter G - ST!NG's first game I believe. An almost tactical, movement-based battle system, rendered graphics that were nice at the time although kinda primitive nowadays, and a great soundtrack (I think there were something like 7 composers on it)

Rudra - Some beautiful graphics in this late Square game, and a split, 3 scenario system reminiscent of Suikoden III. Not too sure how this is.
 
Wasn't there an action/RPG from Enix for the SNES originally called "Genesis" and later renamed as "Creation of Heaven & Earth"? I know it never came to the US. Was it any good?
 
radcliff said:
Wasn't there an action/RPG from Enix for the SNES originally called "Genesis" and later renamed as "Creation of Heaven & Earth"? I know it never came to the US. Was it any good?

I believe that is Terranigma
 
radcliff said:
Wasn't there an action/RPG from Enix for the SNES originally called "Genesis" and later renamed as "Creation of Heaven & Earth"? I know it never came to the US. Was it any good?

That game was released for PAL as "Terranigma", and it's damn good. If you're a fan of SoulBlazer and Illusion of Gaia, you owe yourself to play this game. Even if you weren't, it's still an awesome game and really creative in its implementation. One of the best action RPGs of all time.
 
belgurdo said:
Man, I really wished that FFV had come out here at the time it was supposed to and with a competent translation, if only that "old school" gamers would stop riding the cocks of FFs IV and VI...

As someone who got their start with FF1 and other oldskool NES RPGs, I absoultely loved 5, when I played it (1995 or so), there was nothing else like the job system out on the market, honestly its gameplay elements still hold up pretty nicely even today. I still think it's the best implementation of the FF job system, though it still had its share of useless (Bard, Archer) and overpowered (Samurai, Monk) jobs, it wasn't as thoroughly unbalanced as X2 and T's job system.

I'd imagine that those who started with FF4 and 6 would not like 5 as much, as the plot was pretty contrived and just a more developed version of the FF1 and 3 find the crystal quest (aside from a few touching moments and some things I at least thought were cool - like the dimensional travel).
 
Just boot up any SNES emu - there's dozens of dozens of amazing looking RPG games that never made it to these shores.
 
I bought Romancing Saga 3 back in the day. nice graphics and REAAALLLY nice music! Difficult game though, not sure how the story was since I could barely read any of the words.
 
isamu said:
I believe that is Terranigma
Aye, full Japanese name was "Tenchi Sozo: Creation of Heaven and Earth" or somehthing like that... "Terranigma" doesn't quite have the same impact.
 
This thread shows that the SNES was the ultimate RPG console. :lol

There's been what, 20-30 great RPGs/strategy RPGs/action RPGs mentioned in this thread that never were released outside of japan?
 
lordmrw said:
This game is fantastic. It's by Wolfteam too, in fact I think it might be their last pre-Tales ARPG. Sad story but Rennovation was planning a US release too before they went under.... real shame we never got it.


fausty said:
Aye, full Japanese name was "Tenchi Sozo: Creation of Heaven and Earth" or somehthing like that... "Terranigma" doesn't quite have the same impact.
Tenchi Sozo roughly tranlsates to "the Creation of Heaven and Earth". Genesis was the game's working US title. NOA was planning on releasing it here along with Tactics Ogre and DQVI, but they backed out on all three. :(
 
jarrod said:
This game is fantastic. It's by Wolfteam too, in fact I think it might be their last pre-Tales ARPG. Sad story but Rennovation was planning a US release too before they went under.... real shame we never got it.



Tenchi Sozo roughly tranlsates to "the Creation of Heaven and Earth". Genesis was the game's working US title. NOA was planning on releasing it here along with Tactics Ogre and DQVI, but they backed out on all three. :(

NoA really sucks, doesn't it? :( The only Nintendo published game which has beenbrought over to america but not to europe was Ogre Battle 64 (and that was only thanks to Atlus.)

I hate how NoA starts localizing games, then backs out. The most recent victim of NoA is Giftpia. Showed up at E3 2003, hasn't been shown since.

D:
 
ruby_onix said:
I also like "Sailor Moon: Another Story". It's obviously only recommended for people who liked Sailor Moon (or people who haven't seen it, and would be open to giving it a try), but if you did like Sailor Moon, it's an RPG with a new (non-canon) story, and it's pretty much the best Sailor Moon game available. It's fully fan-translated.

I must second this. Great RPG with a really special atmosphere, story and music. I'd seen maybe one episode of Sailor Moon and still really liked this game.
 
pgtl_10 said:
Was final fantasy 5 any good? I always wondered why it wasn't released in the US or did they release it here? I heard it was thought to be too complicated for American gamers that is why it was never released here during the SNES era.
Mejilan said:
FF Extreme, as the SNES version of 5 was called, was cancelled. FF5 did arrive here on the PSOne, eventually, however.
Here's the expanded series of events, as I understand it.

NoA brought FF1 over to America. Square just took it for granted that NoA was going to do FF2&3 as well. NoA wasn't interested. So Square blamed NoA for not bringing the games over. Spawning a lot of FF-fanboy rumors saying that NoA "prohibited" Square from bringing the FF games over, because they were "repetitive". The illogic of that idea compared to NoA's allowing of four Dragon Warrior games on the NES simply fueled the anger.

Square made their own Square of America (later personified by Ted Woolsey). Square brought over FF4 as "FF2".

Square was going to bring over FF5 as "FF3", but it started hitting delays.

FF6 came out in Japan, where supposedly people had been complaining that FF5 had bad grafx, and that the plot wasn't up to Square's standard. The Job System was great, but if it were to be combined with American stupidity, it could make the game nearly-impossible. All this seems to add up to FF5 being a bad choice for localization. And FF6 fixed all of these things. Of course, that all seems to just be speculation.

Square gave "FF3" a couple extra delays, and very quietly switched "FF3" from being FF5 to being FF6.

Square of America still wanted to bring out FF5, since it was pretty much done, and they had worked hard on it. They decided to avoid the ever-growing naming confusion by calling it "Final Fantasy Extreme", signifying and boasting it's more "hardcore" style at the same time. I think there was also some talk about how they wanted Square of Japan to pump some more grafx into it, so it wouldn't be outdated.

But Square was already moving on to the future. They made the FF6 3D tech demo, started making FF7 and dumped Nintendo for Sony.

Since Sony was going to be publishing (and massively advertising) FF games from then on, Square of Japan didn't need Square of America, so they fired them, ending everyone's hopes for Final Fantasy Extreme.

Now acting as Square's mouthpiece, Sony brought back up all the old issues that had been building, fixed the FF series numbering in America, and basically blamed everything that was wrong with Square/FF on Nintendo.

FF7 (and FF in general) became huge. Then Square dumped Sony for EA. Square ported FF4-6 to the PlayStation, and Square-EA brought them over to America. Then Square dumped EA and merged with Enix, who had just finished firing their second Enix of America.


Here's some scans from the old "Ogopogo Examiner" newsletter that Square of America put out.

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LOL @ "Final Fantasy Adventure 2"

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LOL @ lazy Japanese, needing vactions

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LOL @ switcheroo
 
Of every super famicom RPG I've played that didn't make it to North America, Dragon Quest V's absence stings the most. It was one graphics set short of beating FFV in every possible respect.
 
I've not played many, but Tales of Phantasia was an awesome, awesome game that got me hyped for ToS the day it was announced. ToS is now my favorite RPG of all time, so ToP has a very special place in my heart.
 
It wasn't. The US release came on the PSOne. I have it. TO LUCT.

Edit - Demi: Well, shit. Thanks. :)
 
GaimeGuy said:
This thread shows that the SNES was the ultimate RPG console. :lol

There's been what, 20-30 great RPGs/strategy RPGs/action RPGs mentioned in this thread that never were released outside of japan?


Believe me, there are about another 20-40 rpgs that I could name that weren't released here and haven't been mentioned. I think myself and some of the others are sticking to the well known ones/ones that were fan translated.
 
ruby_onix said:
Here's the expanded series of events, as I understand it.

NoA brought FF1 over to America. Square just took it for granted that NoA was going to do FF2&3 as well. NoA wasn't interested. So Square blamed NoA for not bringing the games over. Spawning a lot of FF-fanboy rumors saying that NoA "prohibited" Square from bringing the FF games over, because they were "repetitive". The illogic of that idea compared to NoA's allowing of four Dragon Warrior games on the NES simply fueled the anger.

Square made their own Square of America (later personified by Ted Woolsey). Square brought over FF4 as "FF2".
Quick sidenote, but Square was planning to release FF2 NES here themselves. Ultimately they decided to refocus on the SNES though (unlike Enix, who was still releasing Dragon Warrior in order for NES before moving on to SNES).

Also, Square USA wanted to release Romancing SaGa 3 here as Final Fantasy IV. Unfortunately they went under before it could happen.
 
I wonder how it was that my local video store had Terranigma as a rental? It never really dawned on me that you couldn't buy it in any stores. It was an okay game. Worth playing.
 
So to round up the planned SNES RPGs we never got...

Nintendo
-Genesis (aka: Tenchi Sozo/Terranigma)
-Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
-Dragon Warrior VI (aka: Dragon Quest VI)

Enix
-Dragon Warrior V (aka: Dragon Quest V)
-The Seventh Saga II (aka: Mystic Ark)

Squaresoft
-Final Fantasy Extreme (aka: Final Fantasy V)
-Final Fantasy VI (aka: Romancing SaGa 3)
-Secret of Mana II (aka: Seiken Densetsu 3)

Renovation
-Arcus Odyssey (aka: Arcus Spirits)
-The Journey Home: Quest for the Throne (aka: Neugier: Umi to Kaze no Koudou)

Hudson Soft
-Elfaria

Culture Brain
-Galactic Defender (aka: Super Chinese World 2)
-Golden Empire: The Magic Of Scheherazade (aka: Arabian Dream Scheherazade 2) (canceled entirely)

Bandai
-The Great Battle (aka: SD Gundam)

Vic Tokai
-The Lost Mission (aka: Shinseiki Odysselya)

American Sammy
-Might & Magic II: Gate to Another World
-Sorcerer Kingdom (canceled entirely)


...anything else anyone knows of?
 
ToxicAdam said:
I wonder how it was that my local video store had Terranigma as a rental?
???

It wasn't the PAL release? I wonder if NOA did a limited release for rental outlets only? Similar to Final Fight Guy?
 
ruby_onix said:
Here's some scans from the old "Ogopogo Examiner" newsletter that Square of America put out.

:lol I still have mine in my NINTENDO PEECHEE NOTEBOOK. Now I have to go home and look at them for humor. I slightly remember some little article warning you not to go through specific doorway X number of times else the bad guy would get you. Nice little way of covering up a game bug :D

Gamedude said:
About terranigma.. how long does it take to finish this game for an average RPG'r ?

I'd say 20-25 hours or so. It doesn't have any 'super-secret-dungeon-100%-completed' areas that you need to cover, although you could spend some time hunting down the hidden MagiRocks.
 
-Golden Empire: The Magic Of Scheherazade (aka: Arabian Dream Scheherazade 2) (canceled entirely)
This one hurts the most. The first one is one of my all time favorite NES games, and when I saw the little blurb about a sequel in the april 92 issue of gamepro, I was excited. Anyone know if there were at least any screenshots?

-Sorcerer Kingdom (canceled entirely)

I never knew Sorcerer's Kingdom was planned for SNES. I played the genesis version, but I got sidetracked, and for the life of me don't remember where to go in the game.

Vic Tokai
-The Lost Mission (aka: Shinseiki Odysselya)

I remember the Nintendo Power review of this game, and I wanted to play it but alas it wasn't meant to be. Kind of weird that an rom of the english version doesn't exist.

-The Seventh Saga II (aka: Mystic Ark)
I'm one of the few people that was brave/crazy/stupid enough to play through the first one, and while I had my reservations, I was mildly curious about this one.
 
Ok, I see a lot of games listed, but how many actually have translation patches? I noticed that there are games with patches that are not listed over at dejap. Could some kind poster take a second and make a quick list of ROMs with English translation patches?

Also, will samsho rpg EVER get a translation, or am I hoping agianst hope? :(
 
rusty said:
Ok, I see a lot of games listed, but how many actually have translation patches? I noticed that there are games with patches that are not listed over at dejap. Could some kind poster take a second and make a quick list of ROMs with English translation patches?

Also, will samsho rpg EVER get a translation, or am I hoping agianst hope? :(
For the love of god, if you're going to patch a rom, don't use these guys. They practically write their own scripts for games
 
GaimeGuy said:
For the love of god, if you're going to patch a rom, don't use these guys. They practically write their own scripts for games
Ok, thanks for the heads up...but is there another site you might suggest for SNES translation patches?
 
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