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SO anyone following the cure for baldness news?

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Saint10118 said:
Wrong. In males there is only one X chromosome that must be supplied by the mother and as far as I can gather only the X-chromosome is implicated in male-pattern baldness. Your statement only applies to women who receive a paternal X-chromosome



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then i must have a family of genetic freaks... it's all on my dad's side. grandfather, dad, uncle, cousins, my younger brother. all bald.
 
No one in my family went bald until they were old, and here I am at 20 and I'm losing my hair. Been on Rogaine for 6 months, it has halted the loss.

I will do ANYTHING to keep my hair.
 
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28 and no receding hairline at all. My dad and both grandparents are/were bald.

Hopefully, it won't start all of a sudden.

PS: The pic is intentionally blurry so as not to blind you with my ugly mug.
 
Saint10118 said:
It is an X-linked occurrence so if you have uncles on your mother's side with full heads of hair then all I can tell you is that I would start practicing the phrase "Are you my mommy?"
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Article said:
Dr Ellis says the research team found the androgen receptor gene marker to be extremely common in bald men. Of 54 bald men of less than 30 years of age, all but one was found to be carrying the marker. In bald men between 40 and 70 years more than 90 percent carried the marker. The marker is also found in a proportion of men who at the time of the study were not bald.
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Seems to me that the androgen receptor gene is not absolutely necessary for baldness?
 
Saint10118 said:
Wrong. In males there is only one X chromosome that must be supplied by the mother and as far as I can gather only the X-chromosome is implicated in male-pattern baldness. Your statement only applies to women who receive a paternal X-chromosome
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Yes, male pattern baldness only comes from the maternal side, however other types of baldness can come through the male line.
 
ruffles said:
I use Rogaine and Propecia.
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I used to use Propecia, but from my understanding of the drug it is actually a drug used to shrink enlarged prostates and the hair part of it is a side effect. Considering the long history of cancer in my family I quit Propecia after I got married (much to my wife's delight!) and have just used Rogaine foam, which does a decent job of slowing down the hair loss.
 
Extollere said:
Yes, but are you ready for the extraordinarily steep price?
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yeah, and I don't know why everyone is saying its going to be so expensive, its not like its going to be thousands of dollars or anything. the company doesn't just want to sell it to the extraordinarily rich. but man having a good set of hair...my girl really loves my hair nice, thick and long. she hates it when i get hair cuts
 
Ketchup Boy said:
yeah, and I don't know why everyone is saying its going to be so expensive, its not like its going to be thousands of dollars or anything. the company doesn't just want to sell it to the extraordinarily rich. but man having a good set of hair...my girl really loves my hair nice, thick and long. she hates it when i get hair cuts
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i think you misunderstood which part of you she was talking about.
 
I have a tons of hair but I still get worried about this. All my family has full heads of hair even in there 70's except for my great uncle on my mothers side who was bald early. I hope it doesn't mean I am screwed later.
 
The_Dude said:
Seems to me that the androgen receptor gene is not absolutely necessary for baldness?
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The other genes in addition to the androgen receptor that have been shown to be involved in male-pattern baldness are still all found on the X-chromosome.
 
tokkun said:
Yes, male pattern baldness only comes from the maternal side, however other types of baldness can come through the male line.
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and I said exactly that - i.e. in women who receive the X-chromosome from their father.
 
I've been planning this out forever:lol . I heard about this news or something similar to it about a year ago, and it said by 2010 there will probably be a cure for baldness. Well I've been freaking out about losing my hair, and though it's not noticable to people I notice it is thinning out on me, slowly. So I figure I'm 19 now, it'll start to be noticable in about 2 years, but I'll just use rogaine, which will slow it and then I'll have time for something like this to come out. This will be huge if it actually comes out.
 
suaveric said:
damn, am i allowed to do that? how much cheaper are we talking?
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Proscar is the same thing as propecia. It is covered by insurance. The only difference is its a stronger strength. So you could get a prescription for that and cut it down. Proscar is the prostate drug talked about above.
 
No receding hairline, or losing hair in my 20's, but you never know when it could happen.

If I ever do go bald, I hope that cure is available :lol.
 
I don't really get why people make a big deal out of going bald. I went bald at about 18, and I was totally fine with it. It never hurt my chances with jobs or women, and I personally think I look pretty good with a shaved head.

What is there to be depressed about?
 
I'm 26 and I've got the "horseshoe" in pretty much full effect. It sucks, I took good care of my hair forever and it started falling out at like 19. I'd consider a treatment if it wasn't absurdly expensive and actually worked. I was born with a small bald spot on the back of my head, so I've never really even known what it's like to have a full head of hair. That fucking sucks.
 
Saint10118 said:
Wrong. In males there is only one X chromosome that must be supplied by the mother and as far as I can gather only the X-chromosome is implicated in male-pattern baldness. Your statement only applies to women who receive a paternal X-chromosome

edit: added more to first statement
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Wrong again. The idea, now a known misconception that MPB only comes from the mother's side is indeed false (ie it is not exclusively x-linked). No one knows exactly how MPB is passed on, but the prevailing thought is that it is autosomal. I would suggest some further reading on the genetics of mpb....and not Wikipedia.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=243
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/113939/
http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair-loss/men-cause.php
 
We baldies should all give thanks to this man for blazing the trail.

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Ketchup Boy said:
yeah, and I don't know why everyone is saying its going to be so expensive, its not like its going to be thousands of dollars or anything. the company doesn't just want to sell it to the extraordinarily rich.
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I don't think you fully grasp how supply and demand works. Or early adopters.
 
My dad didn't start losing his hair until his 50s, and he still has some brothers with full heads of hair. But for some reason, me and many of the cousins from his side of the family started losing our hair in our 20s. It sucks, but I got used to it. At this point, I don't even think I'd go for a cure.
 
thetrin said:
I don't really get why people make a big deal out of going bald. I went bald at about 18, and I was totally fine with it. It never hurt my chances with jobs or women, and I personally think I look pretty good with a shaved head.

What is there to be depressed about?
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Not everybody looks good bald. I'm afraid of going bald because I already know that my bumpy misshapen head is better left hidden under a thick mat of hair. Fortunately I haven't seen any signs of it happening even though I've always had an unattractively high hairline.

My mom's father had a full head of hair through his whole life, so I'm holding onto the myth that hair loss patterns are inherited from that side of the family. This news is still exciting for me because I'm extremely afraid of ever losing my hair and it just puts more odds in my favor.
 
Ugh, this is odd and depressing. No one in my family went bald before age 50. My dad is in his early fifties and he is just beginning to lose his hair. No one form either side of my family have any hair loss problems before the age of 50... and lately, just 6 months ago, I started noticing my hair thinning out (my usual barber also noticed too), but it's stayed the same till now.

I've been reading up insanely on this problem, and it seems that it's very unlikely that my hair loss is permanent, at least I freaking HOPE SO. I do know for sure I have been extremely stressed for the past few months, but school ended a month ago, and I've been more relaxed lately. A few hairstylists and doctors have told me that I might want to change my hair washing habits, as I've always washed my hair only at night up until just a few weeks ago.

Ugh..... I can't go bald yet, not at 21, no.... NOOOOOOOOOOO, I am not ready! Oh God please, let this be temporary...
 
CounterSeal said:
Ugh..... I can't go bald yet, not at 21, no.... NOOOOOOOOOOO, I am not ready! Oh God please, let this be temporary...
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Haha, temporary hair loss. Hahahahahah.


Ha.

Hee.

Whooo.


If it makes you feel better, it never once affected my ability to date ladies.
 
From my research and treatments on balding.

1) Lots of guys can get mature hairlines going from their teens to adulthood. This stops and is not considered balding. Your hairline will move and inch or two back.

2) Usualy, most guys who will go fully bald (horse shoe) will do so by the age of 30. Though there are exceptions.

3) Currently there are only 2 FDA approved drugs to work, finasteride and minoxidil. These can be used together for best results.

4) Finasteride stops/slows your hair follicles from being damaged. Its effects start to wear off after a few years. But this depends on the user.

5) Minoxidil, despite your hair follicles getting worse and worse still makes hair grow. Again the effects of this drug start to wear off after a few years and it depends on the user.

6) If a hair follicle has received so much damage that it has not produced hair in the past 2 years, it is considered too damaged to be revived with current medicine.

7) Currently there are no proper 100% effective cures for baldness.

8) Its easier to keep your hair via treatments than grow it back with treatments after it has been damaged.

9) The "cure" that everybody seems to be waiting for is follicle multiplication. Where they will take an immune follicle (from the back of your head) and multiply it so that there are enough of them to cover your bald areas. I *believe* that this is just like hair transplants, but with infinite supply of follicles (not just the amount that you have left in the back and sides of your head)

However I stopped reading about this shit up about 6 months ago when I decided to stop treatments for it as I was not getting positive results after 1 year of treatments.
 
bionic77 said:
I used to use Propecia, but from my understanding of the drug it is actually a drug used to shrink enlarged prostates and the hair part of it is a side effect. Considering the long history of cancer in my family I quit Propecia after I got married (much to my wife's delight!) and have just used Rogaine foam, which does a decent job of slowing down the hair loss.
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I just hope the people who are married and take propecia know the dangers of the drug - women of child bearing age shouldn't even touch it due to the horrible birth defects is makes in male babies.
 
I have a thick, lustrous head of hair with no history of baldness on either side of my family. But at 29, I'm starting to get some grays.

Ah well. Gray hair > no hair. It will make me look distinguished.
 
Kipz said:
I too love my long flowing hair in fact it's a little thick so when I'm older and it thins a little it may in fact improve.
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That's what I used to say! All the girls loved my thick, curly, black hair, like Ryan Giggs. Hairdressers used to bemoan me entering their salon, female strangers would run up to me just to stroke my locks, from behind I looked like Fabio! Then it all started to fall out, I didn't mind at first as it just seemed to thin out a bit, and my hairline looked a bit better but now at the age of 28 it is really thinning, the family even talked about it at Christmas, my Mum's comment "it's such a shame, you used to have lovely thick hair" bitch!

I'm getting used to it, when it's cut short it looks good but I can't grow it as long as I used to or I look really old.

Oh and also I read there was going to be a cure for baldness in 5 years...when I was 15 believed I was never going to become bald because of it.
 
navii said:
9) The "cure" that everybody seems to be waiting for is follicle multiplication. Where they will take an immune follicle (from the back of your head) and multiply it so that there are enough of them to cover your bald areas. I *believe* that this is just like hair transplants, but with infinite supply of follicles (not just the amount that you have left in the back and sides of your head)
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nah man this cure is way different. the one you're talking about is the one from intercytex i think is the name. this one awakens hair follicles under your scalp or something like that
 
The japanese are doing crazy stuff on hair growth... They say they'll have the drug ready by 2010.
From what I remember (and its the kind of stuff I wouldn't forget), no matter how bald, you will grow hair again.

I want it. And once I have it, I'll leave this place and start over.
 
Guys, don't worry about your hair so much.

Think about all the cool bald guys: Picard, the Silver Surfer, Ming the Merciless, Riddick, those dudes from Choaniki, etc.
 
Onix said:
For people using Propecia ... any side-effects?
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I used it for about 2 - 3 years, it really worked great, stopped my loss and even I gained some hair, the bad thing, it totally kills sexual desire, and as stupid as it sounds, it really sucks when you don't have any interest in having sex with your Gf :(
 
see, my face features don't play well with my baldness. Proportions don't fit together.
Some people just aren't made for it, esthetically.


Leonsito said:
I used it for about 2 - 3 years, it really worked great, stopped my loss and even I gained some hair, the bad thing, it totally kills sexual desire, and as stupid as it sounds, it really sucks when you don't have any interest in having sex with your Gf :(
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well, tell me why do you need hair if don't have sex? unless Ego stroking or social status is more important for you...
 
CounterSeal said:
Ugh, this is odd and depressing. No one in my family went bald before age 50. My dad is in his early fifties and he is just beginning to lose his hair. No one form either side of my family have any hair loss problems before the age of 50... and lately, just 6 months ago, I started noticing my hair thinning out (my usual barber also noticed too), but it's stayed the same till now.

I've been reading up insanely on this problem, and it seems that it's very unlikely that my hair loss is permanent, at least I freaking HOPE SO. I do know for sure I have been extremely stressed for the past few months, but school ended a month ago, and I've been more relaxed lately. A few hairstylists and doctors have told me that I might want to change my hair washing habits, as I've always washed my hair only at night up until just a few weeks ago.

Ugh..... I can't go bald yet, not at 21, no.... NOOOOOOOOOOO, I am not ready! Oh God please, let this be temporary...
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whats wrong with washing your hair only at night?
 
spyshagg said:
see, my face features don't play well with my baldness. Proportions don't fit together.
Some people just aren't made for it, esthetically.




well, tell me why do you need hair if don't have sex? unless Ego stroking or social status is more important for you...
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Yeah, that's why I stopped taking Propecia :D But I was a lot worried when I started to lose a lot of hair with just 19 years, I think it was a problem of too much testosterone.
 
I'll get bald eventually (23 atm), blame my father's genes. Don't really sweat it though, it happens all across my friends-circle and if it becomes too much I'll just trim it all.
 
Guy Legend said:
Wrong again. The idea, now a known misconception that MPB only comes from the mother's side is indeed false (ie it is not exclusively x-linked). No one knows exactly how MPB is passed on, but the prevailing thought is that it is autosomal. I would suggest some further reading on the genetics of mpb....and not Wikipedia.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=243
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/113939/
http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair-loss/men-cause.php
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My god you can't be serious you link me to 2 companies and some hippie homeopathic shit and expect that to prove your point? The wikipedia article I linked had a citation for the most comprehensive and expansive study performed in 2007 that found that overall the primary factor in male pattern baldness was X-linked. The autosomal (i.e non-sex linked) genes implicated are associated with specific types of mental retardation and it is believed that more may exist (although this has yet to be scientifically identified). So in summary as it stands today the primary culprit of male-pattern baldness is the androgen receptor and other sex-linked genes found on the X-chromosome which in turn means that it is primarily maternal.

I would suggest some further reading on the genetics of MPB (try PubMed the NCBI database - that's where I looked and then decided that the wikipedia article had a good summary) ... and not bullshit corporate websites.
 
Yeah my mom's dad had a full head of hair till he was like 60. My dad's dad however was bald pretty young...I'm now 27 and it's been thinning for like 4 or 5 years, although I am great at combing so you cannot tell. But it sucks I cannot use as much gel as before because then it's noticeable. I'm just going to shave it and grow a beard if it looks too nasty.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Picard proved that bald can be sexy.
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Not just Picard.

Bruce Willis, Jason Statham, Vin Diesel, Billy Zane.
There are loads.

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I think most men, gay or not, would bend over for Bruce.
 
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