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So GAF, PSP-3000 or PSPGo?
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Dreamwriter
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Burai said:
I did, when describing the differences between the two systems I said the PSP3000 could play UMD's, very first thing I said.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I bolded them to make them easy to read, a couple were going over one line due to the complicated nature of it (like describing the saved-state system, something not everyone will understand just by saying "saved states"). Not too much complicated about "will play UMD's". Give an example of any way you can accurately describe the differences between the two pieces of hardware that doesn't sound like the Go is better - because really, aside from the ability to play UMD's, the Go's hardware *is* better in almost every way.
Do you really think it would have been more enlightening to someone not knowing the differences between the two systems to just say the PSPGo had "better screen, Bluetooth, Saved-states, controls and storage"? Everyone can understand the problem of lack of UMD's, especially with all the previous commentary in this thread, but not everyone would understand what Bluetooth gets you or exactly how the controls are different.
Though I did just get reminded of another Pro for the 3000: Don't need an adapter to use older PSP accessories like the PSP Camera (and TV cable, though the OP wouldn't have one of those)
The ONLY reason I see for getting a Go is if size is the overriding consideration in a purchase. Otherwise buy a 3000 and a memory stick. It's cheaper, the selection is bigger and even when games are on PSN & UMD, you can go with the cheaper option (hint UMD) and save even more money. And you can sell / loan your games too.
Sony really screwed up with the PSP Go. A simple UMD peripheral with sync ability would have transformed most people's opinion of the device.
Sony really screwed up with the PSP Go. A simple UMD peripheral with sync ability would have transformed most people's opinion of the device.
Dope Skill said:
Dope Skill...hold on a second....what do you mean by save states? I know what save states are in regards to emulators, but are you saying the PSPGO allows you use save states with all PSP games, PS1 games, or both? Can you expand on how this works, because that would be HUUUGE incentive to get one.
Also, are you sure it has a better screen than the 3000?
Reading your original post...
If you plan on keeping your 1000 for CFW and the new one will have OFW on it, I'd recommend the go. Newer games are more likely to be out on PSN as publishers catch up, first party support is pretty much guaranteed, and despite what many say there are actually a lot of games on there now. It's mainly a small number of well known publishers causing many of the complaints (square, capcom, konami). So there is room for improvement but that's achievable IMO
If you plan on keeping your 1000 for CFW and the new one will have OFW on it, I'd recommend the go. Newer games are more likely to be out on PSN as publishers catch up, first party support is pretty much guaranteed, and despite what many say there are actually a lot of games on there now. It's mainly a small number of well known publishers causing many of the complaints (square, capcom, konami). So there is room for improvement but that's achievable IMO
The Go.
Screen is better, analog is better, and the overall feel is better. Granted there's no UMD drive, but playing your games on flash memory is much more convenient (better load times), and not to mention the save state feature. The Go is just the over all albeit more expensive handheld, but worth it, IMO.
Screen is better, analog is better, and the overall feel is better. Granted there's no UMD drive, but playing your games on flash memory is much more convenient (better load times), and not to mention the save state feature. The Go is just the over all albeit more expensive handheld, but worth it, IMO.
Gamer @ Heart
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Do you have a dedicated music or media player or are looking to upgrade? If so, then the Go is the best way to go as iPod touches and zunes start at $150+ and you get a PSP!
Chittagong
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First of all, I've got a PSP-1000, a PSP slim and a PSP Go. So I can compare them quite objectively.
Out of the three, PSP Go is by far the best PSP.
1. The small form factor is fantastic. It's the first PSP I always carry with me.
2. The analog layout is superior to the old PSPs. In fact, go is the only one that doesn't make my left thumb hurt
3. The screen is leagues beyond other PSPs, mainly due to the higher pixel density
4. Go will force you go DD. You should not invest in UMDs anymore, because if PSP2 has any BC, it will be for DD. UMD is dead as a dodo. It's a noisy 90s technology that must be sent to die.
5. Save states. A really awesome feature that let's you leave your game to any point, play another game and return to the same exact point later.
There are only two annoyances with the Go. Neither is specific to the Go, but they are more relevant on it. First is that there is no background downloading or resuming downloads, so they will occupy your device fully. Second is that the PSN release schedule on PSN isn't yet great.
All in all, I have never loved a handheld more than the Go. Don't listen to the haters who are just butthurt of not being able to use their UMDs or accessories. There is no reason beyond UMDs or accessories for getting a 3000.
I have my UMD PSP and the Go, and I will never go back from the Go. It's that good.
Out of the three, PSP Go is by far the best PSP.
1. The small form factor is fantastic. It's the first PSP I always carry with me.
2. The analog layout is superior to the old PSPs. In fact, go is the only one that doesn't make my left thumb hurt
3. The screen is leagues beyond other PSPs, mainly due to the higher pixel density
4. Go will force you go DD. You should not invest in UMDs anymore, because if PSP2 has any BC, it will be for DD. UMD is dead as a dodo. It's a noisy 90s technology that must be sent to die.
5. Save states. A really awesome feature that let's you leave your game to any point, play another game and return to the same exact point later.
There are only two annoyances with the Go. Neither is specific to the Go, but they are more relevant on it. First is that there is no background downloading or resuming downloads, so they will occupy your device fully. Second is that the PSN release schedule on PSN isn't yet great.
All in all, I have never loved a handheld more than the Go. Don't listen to the haters who are just butthurt of not being able to use their UMDs or accessories. There is no reason beyond UMDs or accessories for getting a 3000.
I have my UMD PSP and the Go, and I will never go back from the Go. It's that good.
Marty Chinn
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Dreamwriter said:
Here's two:
1) Better battery life
2) Replaceable batteries
drkOne
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If money really isn't a problem, get the Go.
I was also in pretty much the situation you were. Had a CFW 1000 and wanted another console for when CFW lags behind so I could keep playing my games (also, my 1000 had the WLAN switch broken and I had already decided I wanted to get a new PSP).
Was thinking about getting a 3000 first, agreeing with most of GAF that I didn't lose anything by getting one instead of the Go.
But then I thought, most of the stuff I have on UMD are playable on my 1000 and my PSP never got much attention because it was horrible to carry it in my pocket, so it was a portable that I pretty much only played at home.
Then seeing all the Go praise from people who got it here in the Pickup thread, I ended up getting a Go. It really is what I was looking for, I just wish there were more games available on the PSN, but other than that (and forgetting how much more I payed for it) it's my favorite portable after the GB Micro.
I was also in pretty much the situation you were. Had a CFW 1000 and wanted another console for when CFW lags behind so I could keep playing my games (also, my 1000 had the WLAN switch broken and I had already decided I wanted to get a new PSP).
Was thinking about getting a 3000 first, agreeing with most of GAF that I didn't lose anything by getting one instead of the Go.
But then I thought, most of the stuff I have on UMD are playable on my 1000 and my PSP never got much attention because it was horrible to carry it in my pocket, so it was a portable that I pretty much only played at home.
Then seeing all the Go praise from people who got it here in the Pickup thread, I ended up getting a Go. It really is what I was looking for, I just wish there were more games available on the PSN, but other than that (and forgetting how much more I payed for it) it's my favorite portable after the GB Micro.
Zeouterlimits
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Have the same dilemma as the OP and am going with the 3000, much better value, getting a nice Monster Hunter pack.
Tarin02543
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yesterday I was in my local mediamarkt (belgium's Bestbuy) and they had look 150 pspgo stacked next to each other. that white pspgo looked so tempting but 240 euro was still too expensive for me - i would have had definitely some buyers's remorse.
WrathOfOtaibah
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Wait to see if the PSP 4000 pans out by the next E3. If not, then decide. PSP Go is still in the honeymoon phase with people and with it being direct download, the games aren't going anywhere. If it doesn't hold up too well, get the 3000. On the other hand, if a lot of kinks will get fixed on the Go in a few months, then it would be better to get it once they're addressed as opposed to early adoption.
IMO of course.
IMO of course.
Can anyone go more in-depth on the PSPGo's DD policy? How likely/unlikely is it that I'll even be able to get the games I really want to play such as MGS Peace Walker, P3P and The Third Birthday? Having them at launch (when I SHOULD be able to have them) is a major plus.
But I like the extra portability and better screen on the Go, so its inching in front. The 16GB internal memory also helps. Does the Go still have extra memory stick options so I can fire in my old 8GB card? The policy with games however is the major deal breaker.
But I like the extra portability and better screen on the Go, so its inching in front. The 16GB internal memory also helps. Does the Go still have extra memory stick options so I can fire in my old 8GB card? The policy with games however is the major deal breaker.
TheDarkKnight774
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I'm doing all I can to not pick up a PSPGo. I have a PSP-2000 and a bunch of UMD games so with no way to get them to the new device it'd be a pretty pricey purchase for a system that i could only use for new games going forward. But man i do want it so. :lol
I sold my entire UMD library (which was pretty small, having on Metal Gear Ac!d 1&2 and Portable Ops :lol ) so having the physical disks is of absolutely no concern to me, but what I am concerned about is the whole thing about getting the games later than I should and at a higher cost than I should. Which is complete bullshit and whoever organized it needs punched in the face. But how valid is that assessment?
News Bot said:
I think you are going to have to wait it out to see how this plays out. Currently we are in the transition to DD. You can expect first party titles to be available in both format on first day immediately. It's going to take a while for 3rd parties to do so.
There's no doubt that you will be able to find UMD version cheaper, unless Amazon starts doing sales regularly with the PSN content like they do with XBLA. If it helps any, at least you get 5 copies out of DD version...
TheChewyWaffles
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SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
I hate that I don't have a Fry's around. They always seem to have great deals.
TheChewyWaffles
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WhiteAce said:
Not only is DD not guaranteed, but it's not even a given that every UMD game will ever come to the Go.
UntoldDreams
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News Bot said:
=====PRICING ISSUE
To be honest this is certainly a concern.
It can be summarized as this:
Lack of UMD in the PSP Go will make it more expensive than before. This is counterintuitive but its true.
Used UMD's from EBay and Amazon and Gamestop? You can't have those.
Discounted UMD's on games which aren't selling well? No guarantee the publisher will discount the games on PSN to match this.
Lending a UMD game to a friend or receiving a UMD from a friend? Again no UMD's.
Release schedule? I am pretty sure the Retailers will always get the UMD first. There is also no guarantee that all games will be released on PSN although I bet they will eventually.
===THAT BEING UNDERSTOOD...
After you play around with a Go you won't want to carry around a 1000/200/3000.
Its not even debatable about which is easier to "pick up and go" since there are no UMD's and it is smaller (pocketable).
My older PSP collects dust along with the UMD's which I have big shelf of.
I'm anxiously waiting to hear about it myself. I just want to be able to use my DS3 for games like Phantasy Star and Monster Hunter and probably TV out.The Faceless Master said:
Quick question, does the 2000 have TV out? I'm under the impression that it was introduced with the 3000.
UntoldDreams
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Ledsen said:
Portability is a big deal if it crosses the "deal breaker" point.
If someone tried to sell a cell phone or an iPod which was the same size as a fatty PSP it would probably be laughed off the market.
Only the PSP was allowed this form factor due to the dedication of gamers.
red shoe paul
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Definitely 3000 for you.
"God's Beard!"
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.Dra-Q said:
Dope Skill
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isamu said:
The official term is "Pause Game", but basically any game you're playing on the PSP can be stopped at any point in the game and held in that state while you do something else on the system. The something else could be playing another game, watching videos, listening to music, browsing the net or whatever else you'd use a PSP for. Once you're done, just go to the "Resume Game" icon to restart exactly where you left off. I know it works for PSP and PSone games and I assume it works for Minis but I have none to try with.
The limitation for it is that it only saves the state for one game at a time, so you have to be careful that once you've saved the state in one game you don't save it for another because it will write over the first one. You can still save the game through the game's regular save feature, be it auto saves or save points though. It works great for playing games that give you less chances to save, saving the state, then playing something where you're allowed to save where you want in-game.
As for the better screen, I think it looks better because it has the same amount of pixels or something in a smaller space (I think it's the same reason the Micro's screen looked better). I also read it doesn't have that interlacing issue, but I hardly noticed it on the 3000 so maybe I'm just missing it. There were screen comparisons in the big Go hype thread.
Dope Skill
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Blueblur1 said:
Yes. 2000 introduced TV out.
entremet
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Sorry. Not bothering to create another PSN account. Plus I don't read Japanese and, if you know, the PSP can only be registered to one PSN account. I'm going to be switching profiles between two accounts. You know how ridiculous inconvenient that is?lupinko said:
Those games were released in the US on their original platform. SCEA needs to get their act straight.
Gamecocks625
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I think everyone can answer this question differently. It really does come down to what you are looking for in a portable device. Certainly if you have a large UMD collection or taking discs with you on the go is not a concern to you, then the 3000 makes sense. If you primarily use it as a games machine and don't mind the form factor, then the 3000 makes sense. Also, the cost of games and the ability to find UMDs on the cheap is attractive for many. I'm sure there are others, but the 3000 never appealed to me primarily because I didn't fancy UMD discs, nor did I like the form factor (or the lack of built-in storage).
As for me, I knew I was going to use the PSP as my media player (for music, podcasts, TV shows, etc) so size was a signficant factor to me. Also, the PSP is my only videogame machine so cost isn't that big of a deal to me since I don't have several systems competing for my dollars. Plus, I like the idea of having everything I need on a small system without the need of bringing discs with me. The 16GB of built-in storage is certainly nice, but I also was able to sell my old video iPod for a 16GB M2 stick for extra space. The form factor is definitly attractive. I didn't care for the form factor of the 3000 but holding the PSPgo in my hands is certainly a joy. Plus, I didn't have a UMD collection since this is my first PSP.
The only knock against the PSPgo at this point is the tie it has to the PSN service. Every game that I want to buy is on PSN save for one very important one: Lumines II. Outside of that, I really have no complaints as far as content is concerned.
Again, it really comes down to what you need in a portable device. The PSPgo was exactly what I was lookin for. Nerd rage is certainly going to get in the way of the discussion, but it's pretty easy to just ignore those individuals.
As for me, I knew I was going to use the PSP as my media player (for music, podcasts, TV shows, etc) so size was a signficant factor to me. Also, the PSP is my only videogame machine so cost isn't that big of a deal to me since I don't have several systems competing for my dollars. Plus, I like the idea of having everything I need on a small system without the need of bringing discs with me. The 16GB of built-in storage is certainly nice, but I also was able to sell my old video iPod for a 16GB M2 stick for extra space. The form factor is definitly attractive. I didn't care for the form factor of the 3000 but holding the PSPgo in my hands is certainly a joy. Plus, I didn't have a UMD collection since this is my first PSP.
The only knock against the PSPgo at this point is the tie it has to the PSN service. Every game that I want to buy is on PSN save for one very important one: Lumines II. Outside of that, I really have no complaints as far as content is concerned.
Again, it really comes down to what you need in a portable device. The PSPgo was exactly what I was lookin for. Nerd rage is certainly going to get in the way of the discussion, but it's pretty easy to just ignore those individuals.
Dope Skill said:
Thanks for the reply DS. Seems the save state feature is cool but a bit different from what I was thinking. I was thinking of save states in regards to how they work on emulators such ZSNES....where you can have up to 10 savestate slots, and if you fuck up and fall to your death from a jump in say, Super Mario Bros. 3, you can simply press a button and reload *INSTANTLY* from any of the state slots you've saved in. Now if the PSPGO had that kind of savestate feature, then I'd be all over it like a preacher on a hooker.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
sorry, to clarify - the biggest issue for me. I already bought the Go and whilst it's definitely not at a market friendly price i like what i got. Is it worth that much money? I'll tell you when Sony do/don't sort out (or at least clarify) their DD plans in the next month or so.
The technology isn't ready yet? Of course it is !
Marty Chinn
Member
Fraull said:my buddy is an avid psp fan, and is selling me his psp 2000, since he just got a go and gave away his 3000 already haha. Im happy i can get into the psp at such a cheap price, plus the 2000 is a place holder until there is either a psp 4000 or a solid price drop for the go.
CFW that baby and experience a whole new level of features.
ChackanKun
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You guys are awesome. First you complain with UMDs: it's too loud, slow loadings, occupies space!
Now you complain with the Go: you can't buy UMDs!
Since i've never complained with UMDs, that makes the No-Go for Go.
Now you complain with the Go: you can't buy UMDs!
Since i've never complained with UMDs, that makes the No-Go for Go.
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