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So I just finished Uncharted 2......thats it?

Haven't played any other TPSs that allow as much freedom of movement in all directions as UC2 and 3. Being able to climb stuff and shoot while climbing is awesome.

MYE said:
PS: The final boss fight was SHIIIIT

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This made me laugh. I can picture the riot cop screaming that while rushing into the fray.

Satchel said:
Spot on OP.

Great game, but hugely overrated. Drake's Fortune is still the best in the series.

2 and 3 were just way too "cinematic" and linear and they didn't fix any of the issues that the original had.
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Uncharted 1 is as linear. 2 fixed almost everything wrong with the mechanics in 1. If you don't like linearity and shooting, you won't like any of the games.
 
I recall liking it at the time and that train scene was amazing, but it wasn't a game I ever considered playing a second time.
 
semiconscious said:
really wish posters making threads like this one would give some examples of games they consider to be better done. having mentioned which elements he feels the game gets wrong, it'd give the rest of us a clue as to which games he feels got them right...
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Resident Evil 4? Its better in every single way
 
Uncharted is a strange game in that, once you "get it" you get it. Yes, enemies are a bit bullet spongey, but even my roommate (who is a huge spammer) went through most encounters with ease. The biggest trick is to keep moving. Move as much as you can when you can. Just bunking down and poping out is not only boring, but often detrimental to your life in the game. When you can, sneaking and breaking their necks from behind is super satisfying.

You kinda just have to let yourself get swept up in its ways and go from there.

Also, head shots 4 lyfe.
 
Uncharted 2 is fantastic. It's a clear case of the sum is greater than the whole.

The set pieces in that game are the best I've ever played. The hotel, the train, THE TRUCK chase?

Amazing experience.

The Boss fight didn't bother me. It's 5 minutes in a 12 game of amazing storytelling, acting, and set pieces.
 
NIGHT- said:
Naughty Dog at their prime! Would be awesome to get another Crash style game from them
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Yup! That's part of why I was so disappointed with Uncharted. The PS1 Crash trilogy was a blast to play and seemingly impossible (for me) to get tired of. Uncharted, though...the gameplay felt dated to me, like PS2-era dated. I did play the first two games two years after their respective releases, though. I missed the Jak series as well, so maybe playing those would explain their transition of gameplay quality a bit better? I don't know. It just caught me off guard, considering their past games are kind of timeless for me and their controls felt perfect.
 
The (only?) thing I love about Uncharted games is how it doesn't take itself serious, it's perfect in that regard, else is just another mediocre tps. It also ruined my beloved Tomb Raider! :P
 
Dave Meltzer said:
Almost all the big games this generation aren't actually fun. It's a generation of style over substance.
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Well, I wouldn't go THAT far in saying they're not fun, but they're really not the kinds of games I'll be remembering fondly for years, or if I do it's not for gameplay... and in that regard The Last of Us trumps Uncharted 2 anyway (hell, I found that more fun anyway.) It's why something like Demon's Souls will probably be better remembered as an example of refreshing design this generation brought, a melding of single player and multiplayer that MIGHT have been possible on prior consoles (albeit ONLY on the prior generation!) but without as high of a guaranteed online userbase to do so with.
 
Yeah, I didn't like it that much. The gunfights were OK, but the 'platforming' sequences were terrible, they were pretty much slow, drawn out cut scenes. I also dislike the effect it had on other games, namely games like Dead Space 2 having the archetypical strong, independent female co-protagonist/suggested love interest. The same thing is in Bioshock Infinite, and it just feels out of place.

I had a lot of fun with Uncharted Golden Abyss though; mostly due to the gyro aiming and probably the new car smell of the Vita (first game I played on it.)
 
i completely agree. the production values are absolutely incredible but the gameplay is incredibly bland.

just finished bioshock infinte and that suffered from similar issues but at least it had the story/characters and setting to keep it interesting. i didnt find either of those 3 things interesting in uncharted 2.


in saying that, i thought 2 was the best UC game. 1 was, honestly, pretty bad. i never quite understood the love for it. 3 is better than 1, but not as good as 2.
 
It felt like they were just going through the motions after the 1st one. I have no problem with suspension of disbelief but the whole, crazy acrobatic platforming to find a hidden lost temple followed by 300 armed soldiers somehow meeting you down there gets old quick. From a gameplay perspective it was never anything special.
 
Yeah, I don't see the big deal either. The game's has some strong cinematic focus and a few excellent set pieces here and there, but what you're mostly left with is an incredibly generic story wrapped around tedious gunplay/combat. The puzzles and platforming are perfunctory at best.

Thankfully TLOU was able to provide compelling gunplay/combat and a cinematic focus that actually helped the experience rather than felt separate from it.

Btw what was it about the last boss fight that people are complaining about? Is it the design or the difficulty?
 
Uncharted 2 is one of my favorite games but there is nothing wrong with your opinion. It's not that it did anything particularly new or revolutionary, it is just that it did everything it did so well.
 
Have to agree OP. The Uncharted games are good games, but I didn't find anything exemplary about them. They aren't as fun as Crash and Jak games
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The gameplay is average, and that's okay. Uncharted has plenty of other strengths that make up for it. Not every game has to be put gameplay at it's center to be good.
 
dazzgc said:
in saying that, i thought 2 was the best UC game. 1 was, honestly, pretty bad. i never quite understood the love for it. 3 is better than 1, but not as good as 2.
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Well, once I got into 1 I started to really enjoy it, but on reflection I do consider it the weakest entry easily. For me it's Uncharted 2 > Uncharted: Golden Abyss > Uncharted 3 > Uncharted 1.
Rickenslacker said:
Depends on what you mean "hated by GAF", as dissenting opinion will exist for every game. Every single one. Nothing is a given.
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Nevermind that it's really more like "hated a few DAYS" later. And I'm probably being generous, it's probably more like a few hours at best.

And some of these games got a LOT of dissent but ran with GotY anyway. Go dig up Mass Effect 2 posts in 2010 and see where that landed for GotY again. Silent majority likes it, vocal minority hates it, OR we have a few people who really really like it, a lot of people who like it but wouldn't consider it their best game, and a minority that hate it. I wouldn't be surprised if many of us would've thrown it on a best game list for 2010 and by proxy push the game up to first place, Portal 2 sure wasn't my GotY of 2011 but I think I put it on my list anyway.
 
It's the whole package that makes it masterpiece, everything just flows extremely well and even though it's linear, Drake travelling around the world does makes it feel like a big-scale adventure.

Dave Meltzer said:
Almost all the big games this generation aren't actually fun. It's a generation of style over substance.
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I don't know about you but I had a lot of fun playing U2.
 
Spring-Loaded said:
This made me laugh. I can picture the riot cop screaming that while rushing into the fray.



Uncharted 1 is as linear. 2 fixed almost everything wrong with the mechanics in 1. If you don't like linearity and shooting, you won't like any of the games.
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It is, bit I thought the level design in 1 did a better job of hiding it.

2 and 3's levels might as well have been funnels.

Also no, the gunplay was still sub par, and Drake was still ice skating a missing basic jumps through 3 games. Do no, they didn't really fix anything except the melee combat.
 
Game is definitely overhyped, but still the best in the series. Now Uncharted 3 I just play on nights I'm having a hard time falling asleep, 10 minutes of playing it and I'm out like a light.
 
The funny thing is that I'm going to play Vanquish next, which I assume is the polar opposite of this lol

Got it for 9,99€ new

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"Cinematic" games always make me wonder why they weren't just movies. I can't think of a single one that had fun gameplay. And that's... kind of why I play games.

They're pretty to explore, I guess?
 
Only good thing about this situation is that 5 years from now, nobody is gonna give two shits about Uncharted 2. While an actually well-made game like RE4 will still be fondly remembered.
 
I think the gameplay mechanics are terrific. Good enough even to support one of the most entertaining, fun, dynamic multiplayer shooters in years, which it also happened to be.
 
Eusis said:
Well, I wouldn't go THAT far in saying they're not fun, but they're really not the kinds of games I'll be remembering fondly for years, or if I do it's not for gameplay... and in that regard The Last of Us trumps Uncharted 2 anyway (hell, I found that more fun anyway.) It's why something like Demon's Souls will probably be better remembered as an example of refreshing design this generation brought, a melding of single player and multiplayer that MIGHT have been possible on prior consoles (albeit ONLY on the prior generation!) but without as high of a guaranteed online userbase to do so with.
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When I look at the highest rated games of this gen, only Mario Galaxy and Portal seem valid to me. I mean, whatever, opinions and such, I just find most big games nowadays are overly cinematic and don't have much substance behind boring, simplistic gameplay. Uncharted being a fantastic example.
 
The characters are topnotch, the transversal mechanics themselves are well done, and the gunplay itself is solid. The presentation is of course through the roof but that isn't the only thing it does correct.
 
Excellent game, but I'm with you on the shooting mechanic issues. The audio design was also sub-par, the guns felt like plastic rifles.

Thankfully, ND stepped up their game big time with The Last of Us.
 
*Shrug* Journey didn't do ANYTHING in terms of gameplay either, and is the other best game of the generation. I really value gameplay innovation/perfection, but it isn't everything. Yes, the fact that the characters and writing and graphics and set-pieces and the freaking fun wild ride were all the top-tier is why it is such an amazing game. Plenty of other games have better mechanics, but none touch any of those other things I mentioned. It's not a perfect game, it's just the best.

It's so good, I don't even get mad if people don't like it. I just sort of go "oh, ok, that's too bad" and then start thinking about replaying it again.

Edit: Also, "bullet sponge" is the laziest criticism of any game. I prefer enemies take some hits rather than just be one-hit-carnival-pop-ups.
 
Glorified G said:
I just found most of your criticisms exactly correlate to SS, which I've seen you've praise about before. Finding those 5 pieces to get into the Earth Temple was one of the most mind numbingly dull experiences I had playing a game this gen. Linear and boring is what I would describe it. And polish is the last thing I would call SS. Awful pacing, frustrating controls.

It's all subjective. Which is why I said "To each there own".
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Pacing could be better, yes, and it had minor flaws here and there, but Skyward Sword is a gameplay masterpice, I think. So I don't agree with everything else you say, but I do respect your "opinion".
 
Uncharted is a game that will only be remembered highly, but not actually good in the future. People who enjoy it enjoy it for reasons that will become outdated in my mind. Cinematic quality, graphics, set pieces, etc. The actual game part is auto shit platforming, poor mans gun play, and more auto shit platforming mixed in with Drakes WHOA OH HAHA ALMOST FELL moments.

To me, Uncharted 2 is a 7 game with a 10 production value by this gens standard most of the time, it won't hold up like games that actually have amazing gameplay (Mario Galaxy). People talk of 2 like it's just as good, but I doubt that will be the feeling 5 years from now.
 
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!! said:
Only good thing about this situation is that 5 years from now, nobody is gonna give two shits about Uncharted 2. While an actually well-made game like RE4 will still be fondly remembered.
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Yeah, thats where I was getting at basically.

Its a good play-it-once game, but thats about it.
 
I always thought Uncharted 2 was overrated. The story itself is actually also pretty meh. It's basically the story of the first with a few new characters as plot expanders. Same plot "twist" near the end and everything. The best props it deserves is the attention to detail in the visuals, and the performance compared to the first. Other than that, I don't see why it's so special. The cinematic moments are awesome the first time, but the second time it's already 'meh' to me.
 
goldenpp72 said:
Uncharted is a game that will only be remembered highly, but not actually good in the future. People who enjoy it enjoy it for reasons that will become outdated in my mind. Cinematic quality, graphics, set pieces, etc. The actual game part is auto shit platforming, poor mans gun play, and more auto shit platforming mixed in with Drakes WHOA OH HAHA ALMOST FELL moments.

To me, Uncharted 2 is a 7 game with a 10 production value by this gens standard most of the time, it won't hold up like games that actually have amazing gameplay (Mario Galaxy). People talk of 2 like it's just as good, but I doubt that will be the feeling 5 years from now.
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I completely agree.
 
Duffyside said:
*Shrug* Journey didn't do ANYTHING in terms of gameplay either, and is the other best game of the generation. I really value gameplay innovation/perfection, but it isn't everything. Yes, the fact that the characters and writing and graphics and set-pieces and the freaking fun wild ride were all the top-tier is why it is such an amazing game. Plenty of other games have better mechanics, but none touch any of those other things I mentioned. It's not a perfect game, it's just the best.

It's so good, I don't even get mad if people don't like it. I just sort of go "oh, ok, that's too bad" and then start thinking about replaying it again.

Edit: Also, "bullet sponge" is the laziest criticism of any game. I prefer enemies take some hits rather than just be one-hit-carnival-pop-ups.
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Journey is barely a game.

I guess its a nice 1 hour time waster or something. It looks nice and all.
 
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