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Why'd you quit? Seems like you were in the right and your manager agreed with you. You'll never have a job where you don't butt heads with someone at least once. Poor move OP.
 
Wait, you heard her listening in to the conversation, and didn't immediately call her out on it?

Son, you are not manager material. A serious manager would have told the owner right then and there that she was listening in and told him that she isn't a fit worker for his business. You instead to chose to roll over, and left the owner with a crap employee.
 
Sorry but I really would not like to work with a manager like you.

You're going to keep encountering people like her in practically every job so good luck dealing with it.
 
Man this threads hard on the OP but I think people aren't seeing that bars aren't like office jobs, plus all the drunk posting doesn't help. But if Mully can get a better job the same day he quits, why not leave. Why deal with all the headache if you don't need to?
 
Roland_Gunner said:
Man this threads hard on the OP but I think people aren't seeing that bars aren't like office jobs, plus all the drunk posting doesn't help. But if Mully can get a better job the same day he quits, why not leave. Why deal with all the headache if you don't need to?
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The "headache" was literally one incident on one day as far as I can understand. You could try to work it out instead of running away.

But if another job is lined up, whatever. Do what you feel is best. But if you don't have that safety net next time, you'll need to confront these issues and learn to fix them if you are the manager.
 
norinrad said:
Gonna hangout on the couch and chill with an xbox game now that you are out of a job?

Unless you can afford to sit at home, never ever quit until you have something lined up you can walk straight into.
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Never ever reply to the OP if you don't read it.
 
And here I've been, looking vigorously for a new job for over a year, while pursuing my MPA, without so much as a single interview during this time, and you, OP, quit over a bad shift on your first day AND have another job lined up? Man, fuck you.
 
This is the most nonsensical reasoning for leaving a job that I have ever seen. Your boss backed you, and in a few weeks you would have been able to get rid of the server and get someone better in, why the fuck did you quit?
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Mully said:
I'm probably playing the victim card too much here because of how fucking stupid this whole situation was, but at this point I know I'm a fine fucking worker with a stable work history and many recommendations. I was a manager of a nursery for years, a kitchen manager for five years, and still run my own landscape design business on the side during the Spring. It's not healthy for me to stick around a business that allows for this type of behavior to occur.
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I'm assuming you are in your lower 20s and it sounds like you are reasonably inexperienced. What exactly do you mean by manager of a nursery and kitchen manager?

I would say that honestly there are times when you have to understand that experience can be more valuable than money in the long term. Being able to be a good manager and learn how to deal with issues like the one you faced is an important skill. Something that can help you get a job you really want in the future.
 
After reading all of your posts, I understand your reasoning, but you need some thick skin, brah. You have to play the workplace politics game if you want to get ahead, period.
 
Every time I read these threads I realize that the average GAF user has a very thin skin. Probably not cut out for management if couldn't handle a weak confrontation like this.
 
Fuck the bullshit, you made the right decision, OP.

Doubly so since you have other opportunities lined up. No point in dealing with someone that obviously doesn't think the rules apply to them and have to deal with that crybaby calling the owner every time her undies get into a fucking knot.

Fuck that. You were right to bounce. Just not a situation you'd like to be in and from the sound of things your world won't implode while you search for a new job.

I've had experience dealing with coworkers that assumed because they were close with the management/owners that they could do whatever the fuck they want. Never again.
 
But the owners WASN'T willing to back him if the fucking server was listening in on the phone call. That's HUGE red flags of unprofessional conduct and pretty much indicates NOTHING can be said between management and the owner without little miss pain-in-the-ass knowing about it.
 
You gushed about the job and your boss and then quit after one bad situation with a crazy coworker WHO EVERYONE ELSE KNEW ABOUT SO THEY WOULD HAVE BACKED YOU.

Jesus Christ do you run away from all of your problems?
 
If this was anyone else, I would've agreed with the rest of the thread. But you've got a good head on your shoulder and bartending jobs are a dime a dozen so I'm more confident than others that you'll be fine. I've left jobs before because of a bad coworker but I've left with notice and with another job lined up. It sounds like you didn't really want to stay in the first place so this was a good time to make changes.

The only thing I'd worry is about hurting the owner. You may have other recommendations but it never benefits to burn a bridge if you can avoid it. He may be cool with you but I can see something like that will harm his view on you. Best of luck to you, Muls.

Mully said:
Also the owner was refilling top shelf with well liquor. If I got pouring that it would have been my ass not the owners.
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Maybe if you were the manager but you weren't at the time. That place would get shut down or loses its liquor license so it's not on you.
 
Vyroxis said:
Wait, you heard her listening in to the conversation, and didn't immediately call her out on it?

Son, you are not manager material. A serious manager would have told the owner right then and there that she was listening in and told him that she isn't a fit worker for his business. You instead to chose to roll over, and left the owner with a crap employee.
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yeah no offense op but with the other list of issues you have, you aren't ready to be a manager.
 
Wow. Thread backfired. I hope you have taken note what everyone telling you, OP. Good you found greener pasture though so maybe it was meant to be. However, learn from this thread in order to become a better manager.
 
Sounds like things worked out for the better. Odd reaction, to be sure, but eh.

The only thing I don't understand is why the waitress is expected to prep and clean the bar but isn't allowed to serve drinks. To the layperson, it reads like you're being choosy about when to be territorial.
 
Mully said:
Not really. A majority of bartenders that left in previous months/weeks that I made acquaintances with while serving them at the other bar I work at, already said they'd be willing to give me shifts and vouch for me for the summer season at other places.

I'm probably playing the victim card too much here because of how fucking stupid this whole situation was, but at this point I know I'm a fine fucking worker with a stable work history and many recommendations. I was a manager of a nursery for years, a kitchen manager for five years, and still run my own landscape design business on the side during the Spring. It's not healthy for me to stick around a business that allows for this type of behavior to occur.
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You are not a fine fucking worker when you quit at the first sign of conflict, with no notice. You also seem a bit thin skinned.
 
Strange reason for leaving a job. You couldn't just grit your teeth and smile at the shitty coworker knowing you could probably fire her in a few weeks time? Even if I hated the job, I probably would have stuck around long enough until I could do that.
 
Mully said:
I've been at this job for a month. It was my first legitimate head bartending job I have had. My owner loved me. I'm seeing the manager. It was a bitch of a commute, but it was worth it for how comfortable I felt and how much I could experiment with cocktails.

Anyways, I was being groomed by the manager/gf for her position while a new server came in. The server wasn't exactly new. She's worked at the bar for three years, but goes back to Europe for a few months to live with her family. She has a bad history with the other servers and bartenders and I knew that prior to she joined.

Anyways, today was the server's first new day. A double for her during the winter in a summer beach town. Lunch shift had one table, but she didn't setup the bar, clean unkempt areas, or anything besides serving her fiancé's table from 2PM to 11PM. Second shift starts at 5.

When I reopened the bar at 4:30, she was pleasant but slightly defensive that I was taking over the bar and management in a few weeks. Halfway through she began to make drinks and pour beers while I was standing feet away. A big no-no for servers within a bar restaurant. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but after the 4th time, I blocked the entrance of the bar and asked her what she needed.

Next thing you know she's asking how long I've worked there, what I did before, if I'm best friends with the manager like her (I just hooked up with her..), if I'm family to the owner, Gabe.

I tried to apologize for my assholeness because I suck at being angry, but it was too late. She texted the owner, and suddenly I got a call from him.

He's down to earth, but slightly aloof and very checked out. I take the cordless after getting his phone call, into the breakroom while I tell the problem server to cover the bar with the corded phone off the hook.

I tell the owner I was an asshole to her, but she shouldn't be behind the bar when I'm there. He agrees.

Suddenly I hear breathing on the other line. She's listening in on my conversation. At that point I knew I didn't want to stick around.

I play it cool the rest of the shit, give all my tips to my barback, and tell my owner I'm done.

I've already got a new job lined up, but he pleaded with me to say. I simply say I'm not going to walk over eggshells and it's not healthy to have two workers at odds with each other.

I'm still not sure if I made the right decision but I have a few jobs lined up and none will be as uncomfortable as the shift I had tonight.
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Well then you made the right decision!
 
Damn Mully, you could've called her out right when you heard the breathing. That would've made her look really bad.
 
I think I'd be surprised if I talked with a new manager/manager in training who didn't have to deal with an employee that tries to test their authority or runs to an owner whenever they feel wronged. It happens. Hell, the manager I replaced ran my workplace for 15 years and still had to put up with that kind of shit.

Part of managing is you know, managing. That includes people like the girl the OP had issues with.

Sure it can be disheartening to know you'll have to deal with it every day until you get them in check, but that's just part of the job. If you can't you get rid of them. If that's not possible because of personal relationships, then you'll have a more valid reason to quit. Not after one shift.
 
Without trying to address the situation first I don't think you should have quit. Even if you had other things lined up. It sounds like you were completely in the right here and she was over stepping and likely only required a talking/dressing down by the boss to set things right. Just walking at the first sign doesn't seem like a good play to me. If possible I would try to talk with the owner again. It sounds like you were clearly wanted.
 
Sounds like a potentially toxic environment but I would probably not have left until after giving it a chance. You were being trained to take on more responsibility which would have given you good work experience and more to put on your resume (if you don't already have a lot of that type of experience).

Sounds to me that you jumped ship too early.
 
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