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[Mammoth Jones]

It's not being an internet hero. It's just having a pair and speaking up when needed. Which he did anyway.

Speaking up doesn't do jack. Piss. Or shit. Who are we kidding? Call the fucking police and stop pussyfooting. If your concern is solely the childs immediate and long term safety you should call the cops, asap. So they can do something about it.

If your concern is expressing your outrage to satisfy your anger then by all means...yell away. But it's about as useful as using harsh language to stop an oncoming train.

For example last summer some random neighbor flipped his shit. I could see it outside my bedroom window. His girlfriend is trying to get into her car and leave and he's basically holding her by her shoulders and stopping her and yelling trying to argue with her. So they're arguing and she's CONSTANTLY saying very calmly..."let me go"...."I just wanna go"...."I'm done" so after about 90 seconds of this I don't run out there and try to be Mr. Big Man. I quietly called the cops. He was screaming loud enough to wake the dead and once she said "You're hurting me" when he was grabbing her wrist to keep her from putting the key in her car.

Told the 911 operator the situation and 5 minutes later he's changing his tune and she's saying ""No, he didn't hit me...I'm just going home" and they wait for her to leave then talk to him for a few more minutes and he walks away. That's how it should be handled.

 

[Iztli]

I once told my mom to shut up when I was a kid on the bus.....

My step-dad slapped me so hard that I started bleeding and crying like a little baby. Everyone on the bus was just dead silent. I only remember this because I asked my mother how it went down.

 

[Vagabundo]

So they were going to put a hit out on you via the drug dealer so they could keep hitting their kid? What the hell.

I'd have called the cops.

Maybe not, but probably a good hiding.

Sounds like Dublin city alright.

OP I'm surprised you even done anything some of them Dublin buses can be cesspools.

And yeah people should have a bit more cop then hitting their kids at all especially in public places

It's the old 78A(now the 40) if you know it.

Someone's going to kill you OP.

Thanks speevy. You're always a barrell of laughs.

 

[Stahsky]

I don't think you raising your voice at the parents would have actually changed anything, as some said.


But I do think it is better than doing nothing. People who sit back and do nothing are jerks.

 

[Starfish_Oxide]

It's the old 78A(now the 40) if you know it.

Finglas to Liffey Valley, not the most pleasant route if I remember

Fair play anyway OP, but watch out for an ass-kicking, people are cunts.

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

Uh, no. A defenseless kid being abused is everyone's business.

this. Any violence against a child is unacceptable in a western country. And a parent needs to be responsible all the way, not "tommorrow, but not today".

I would have broken both their fucking legs, to be honest.
(but we all know I would have done nothing, because I'm just an internet tough guy and not the real thing :'( )

 

[Fuu]

Unrelated to the child abuse in the OP but this reminded me of a situation earlier this year about a boy in Rio who saw a hobo being beaten by a group of five young men and tried to do something about it. He and his friend asked them to stop but this resulted in the boy getting beat up with punches and kicks to the face, having to go through surgery later.

http://translate.google.com/transla...defender-mendigo-deixa-cti-apos-cirurgia.html

A short follow-up on it, google translated but it's readable.

It depends on the circumstances at hand and what you can honestly do about it, but in most scenarios I can't really condemn people who don't want to get directly involved for their own safety.

 

[Shouta]

Don't let the kid get hit anymore but don't make aggressive gestures towards the parent and either you call the police or have someone else do so.

 

[Impeccable]

In that situation, "I mind my own business" and call the police. I'm not going to potentially risk my life for a stranger's kid when I've got my own family to take care of. Not going to gamble with "junkies".

 

[Vagabundo]

Don't let the kid get hit anymore but don't make aggressive gestures towards the parent and either you call the police or have someone else do so.

Maybe someone else might have, I never thought of that. Since I was off the bus it was too late for me to do it. I was still fuming and I wasn't thinking straight.

I wasn't aggressive toward them anyway, even though I was angry.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I don't know man. There has some crazy shit happened already...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439885

Getting involved is the right thing to do, you just shouldn't let the situation escalate.

That's it. I'm leaving this world.

 

[5amshift]

OP you should have seriously called the cops. Should have stuck up to the boyfriend also..

 

[keyboardcat]

get involved, good on ya OP.

the number of people who's come out after-the-fact in abuse cases, often leading to an infants death, is staggering. "We knew something was wrong, the kid was so quiet, we knew they hit the kid and so on and so on."

Nothing infuriates me more, than people allowing kids to suffer, just so they can "stay out of trouble" and "not get involved".

Fucking nut up and do something, anything.

 

[CrankyJay]

OP you should have seriously called the cops. Should have stuck up to the boyfriend also..

Yeah, you don't know what crazy shit the boyfriend could have done to the OP. Then more people would be standing by as the OP is getting jacked up by a potentially crazed junky.

He should have alerted an authority but chances are they wouldn't have done shit anyway. That's the real tragedy.

 

[CrushDance]

Second part. I don't give a fuck at a biological level. That kid is not mine, I don't even have the basic instinct to protect it. It can go die and I will be fine.
BUT! A kid is a kid and we have a system for these situations so, yes, AND call someone if you really must (someone being the police/authorities/911/child services, whatever)

SMFH/

 

[Lirlond]

?

 

[CrushDance]

For the people saying: "Call the police" how could he have done so without drawing attention? To be honest, I don't know what I'd do in such a situation. Because I would be afraid of getting hurt or jumped after the fact. You can't exactly text the police stealthily :S

 

[-COOLIO-]

Mind your own business and call someone if you really must.

fuck that, the mom is a bitch

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Omg....Internet heroes.



is the AND part not ringing any bells?

It's like you guys ignore everything that's after it.

I would've mind my own business and not say anything to the couple, but subtly call someone.

It's the way you stated the second part as "if you must", it seems like you wouldn't but if they really want to get that emotionally over something stupid you can call. Gives a much different tone to your post then what you're trying to claim now.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

You were on "What Would You Do?" and you failed, though not totally failed since you attempted to get her to stop. Make a call to proper authorities, the kid may be in a messed up situation. Could have saved a life, you don't need to confront the person to make a call.

 

[Pezking]

You witness child abuse, you call the cops.

Maybe even film it for evidence, if you can do it without drawing attention.

This really is a no-brainer in the day and age of smartphones.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Call the police on her

 

[FStop7]

I once told my mom to shut up when I was a kid on the bus.....

My step-dad slapped me so hard that I started bleeding and crying like a little baby. Everyone on the bus was just dead silent. I only remember this because I asked my mother how it went down.

Joffrey?


I think I did the same thing and got the same result.

 

[Riggs]

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Rofl I thought of the same thing.

I would of said something, especially if they were junkies. I am not afraid of getting stabbed. Diablo 3 comes out in 1 week, so a serious stab wound would give me ample time to rest in the hospital. By the time I got out, D3 would be released.

Seriously though I would of said something.

 

[i nerini del buio]

It's sad how you can not hit a stranger but you can hit your child.
"mind your own business", that's what people say right?

My father used to beat me and my sister a lot, not only with his own hands but with wooden spoons, shoes and even more scary stuff I don't want to talk about... bruises lasting MONTHS, and I fucking hate him for that now.
I would never ever hit my little nephew (he's two years old), how could I? He's defenseless jesus christ.
Few days ago I saw my father slapping him in the face (that's right, he slapped in the face a two year old kid), I grabbed him by his throat and told him next time I see that happening I break his hand one finger at a time.

Back on topic, you should have called the police

 

[snesfreak]

It's sad how you can not hit a stranger but you can hit your child.
"mind your own business", that's what people say right?

My father used to beat me and my sister a lot, not only with his own hands but with wooden spoons, shoes and even more scary stuff I don't want to talk about... bruises lasting MONTHS, and I fucking hate him for that now.
I would never ever hit my little nephew (he's two years old), how could I? He's defenseless jesus christ.
Few days ago I saw my father slapping him in the face (that's right, he slapped in the face a two year old kid), I grabbed him by his throat and told him next time I see that happening I break his hand one finger at a time.

Back on topic, you should have called the police

My father would have been that kind of asshole to me and my brother, which is why I'm glad he was out of my life early on and is dead.

 

[Deified Data]

Spoiler

OP...is that really how this went down?

In all seriousness, you confronting her about it will probably make it much worse for the kid later on. Mom's pissed and she's gonna take her anger out on someone. Should have called some sort of law enforcement while you were on the bus.

 

[Pezking]

Few days ago I saw my father slapping him in the face (that's right, he slapped in the face a two year old kid), I grabbed him by his throat and told him next time I see that happening I break his hand one finger at a time.

Good job.

I hope you also told the parents?

 

[Carnby]

Don't get involved.

That is how children die from unreported child abuse.

A 10-year-old Buffalo boy viciously beaten to death last week — allegedly at the hands of his stepdad — called 911 several times since 2010 to warn about the abuse, authorities revealed.

The Buffalo Police Department is investigating how officers responded to calls made by Abdifatah Mohamud in April 2011 — a year before he died after allegedly being hit 70 times with a rolling pin, according to reports.

On April 17, the boy’s stepfather, Ali Mohamad Mohamud, gagged the fifth-grader with a sock, covered his mouth with duct tape and then beat him, police said. He was arrested for second-degree murder and is awaiting a grand jury date, ABCNews.com reported Friday.

source

This article doesn't mention it, but many in the boy's life knew he was abused. Yet no one did anything about it.

 

[Enco]

Mind your own business and call someone if you really must.

Fucking upstanding citizen right here.

Thanks for making the world a better place.

 

[Riggs]

Fucking upstanding citizen right here.

Thanks for making the world a better place.

Thought same thing just didn't want to start a shit fest. People will shit on you if you say you would of done something.

1) You could get yourself or others hurt

2) That's what police are for

While both valid points, sometimes doing shit yourself is warranted. Sorry if I saw some little meth freak mother slapping a 2 year old in the face I would of said something. I am no tough guy, but it's the right thing to do. What does it solve? Maybe nothing, but I would of also called the cops. What does you doing jack shit solve? Nothing. At least you tried ! Then call the cops anyway and make sure they take her spotted face to jail.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Could any good come of calling the cops and reporting it now, or is it simply too late?

I would call them even if there's a small chance something can still be done.

 

[CrushDance]

Could any good come of calling the cops and reporting it now, or is it simply too late?

I would call them even if there's a small chance something can still be done.

You'd call them on a crowded bus? What if the couple attacked you?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Hm, it's a problematic situation. I don't imagine it going well if you tried calling the cops, though if the bus had CCTV you could make a call afterwards and maybe persuade them to go through the footage.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

You'd call them on a crowded bus? What if the couple attacked you?

You misunderstood my post. I'm saying if there's still hope something can be done then he could give them a call and report the incident now.

There's always the small chance they've been reported before and the police have them on record for something.

Maybe they could be tracked on CCTV or something?

I dunno, but if there was still a small chance something could be done then I would call the police even if it might seem too late.

 

[JumpingTheGun]

Call the authority? Too late now.



This is NeoGAF dude. Half of us haven't even gotten laid.

Fixed. Haha.

 

[Riggs]

Fixed. Haha.

Nice rofl

 

[Roche]

It's the old 78A(now the 40) if you know it.

That route is always full of dodgy people, not surprising you ran into trouble on it.

 

[CrushDance]

You misunderstood my post. I'm saying if there's still hope something can be done then he could give them a call and report the incident now.

There's always the small chance they've been reported before and the police have them on record for something.

Maybe they could be tracked on CCTV or something?

I dunno, but if there was still a small chance something could be done then I would call the police even if it might seem too late.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. The reason I feel conflicted about this is that I'd want to do something right away, but I'd also be too afraid to start something.

 

[i nerini del buio]

My father would have been that kind of asshole to me and my brother, which is why I'm glad he was out of my life early on and is dead.

I don't even think he's a bad man. He's just been taught that way. Back then when he was a kid even teachers at school used to beat you, that's how it worked...

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Real reason he's mad is he got off early so couldn't get to his dealer and get his fix.

 

[Vagabundo]

Thanks for all the opinions everyone.

I'm happy I said something. I was angry. After the guy threatened me I got off the bus because I was getting angrier and I knew it was escalating, and I don't think straight when I'm that angry I tend to react.

I'm of two minds to call the cops now. There is CCTV on the bus, well cameras anyway, hopefully not dummies. So it is possible they might get something. The problem is whether it is actionable or not. Irish law still allows parents to slap their kids. She was just very young. I don't know.

I'll sleep on it. I know some social workers and might ring them tomorrow to see what they think.

 

[Indrid Cold1]

Omg....Internet heroes.



is the AND part not ringing any bells?

It's like you guys ignore everything that's after it.

I would've mind my own business and not say anything to the couple, but subtly call someone.

Would you bollocks have called someone. Everything about your posts screams out NOT MY BUSINESS, NOT GETTING INVOLVED. You're a coward lad. At least admit you would have done fuck all, don't pretend you would have called the police.