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[AlexMogil]

Wow.. that chart

Had no idea it was that hard to obtain a green card.

It's really the same for Canada, too, honestly. Asylum seekers have it a little easier in Canada, as do families. But if you have a pre-existing medical condition it can actually make it tougher.

 

[The Librarian]

You sure?

The hell is that?

 

[Medalion]

Wait, what? These milk bags are the norm in Canada? It seems like such a little thing but fuck :lol

I was born in London Ontario, and I moved away from there in my mid teens to Vancouver, never saw that once in person till I moved back to ontario to waterloo/kitchener just a few years ago then moved back to Vancouver. It was trippy. It's not the norm for me.

 

[krae_man]

Edmontons your first choice?

You have no idea what you're in for Winterwise.

You probably have no idea about Snow in gerneral though.

p.s. Kitchener/Waterloo Represent

 

[Buba Big Guns]

Its not like milk bags are the only thing you can buy. Cartons are there too.


Vancouver is a big city, chances your ex ever sees you are slim. And Winnipeg? WTF...you'd probably be stuck inside all day during winter.

 

[Nabs]

winnipeg???

 

[GSG Flash]

Winnipeg? :lol

If you're going to Alberta, then I suggest you go to Calgary.

I moved to Toronto from Australia in 2006. Toronto is a boring shithole. Most of the time I lived in Canada I felt like I was living in a less exciting America. They have Walmarts and fat people, but all the TV channels are screwed up, they have Thanksgiving but do it a month before the Americans, they have Canada Day and fireworks three days before 4th July. They have all the same products but everything's dual labelled in French, the most irritating language on earth because you can almost sort of read it if you only know English so every time you go shopping it feels like a mini French lesson and I HATE trying to learn other languages. The economy in Canada is doing better, or at least seemed to me to be doing better, than most of the US. If you're just on a working visa in Canada (ie not a permanent resident), the universal healthcare, unemployment benefits etc won't mean shit to you -- make sure you get some travel insurance that covers medical. Getting a visa to live and work in Canada is pretty fucken easy, at least it is for Australians. I filled in a form on a website, posted off a cheque and a photocopy of my passport, and got the visa by email in about 2 weeks. Actually, I even overstayed it, kept on working, came back to Australia for a couple of weeks (not related to the visa, had some work there), reapplied online for the visa, and got another one no questions asked. Very easy. Coming from another Commonwealth country, I'm sure it would be a breeze as most Commonwealth countries seem to have reciprocal working visa plans.

Your complaints are the biggest load of bullshit I have read on this forum (off topic side, gaming side has just a much bullshit but on a daily basis), it's like you already made up your mind about Canada before even moving here.

Toronto boring shithole? Maybe try going out for once and meeting people instead of sitting in front of your computer screen all day, Toronto may be a lot of things, but a boring shithole it is not, I mean seriously, during the summer there are festivals and parades like every day. TV channels are screwed up? We have like all the big networks from the US broadcasting here, I have no idea what you're taking about here. Who cares if things are dual labelled in French? When I went to the US, every product I saw was dual labelled in Spanish, you're just fucking nitpicking for the hell of it.

This is, honestly, one of the worst posts I've read in a long time.

 

[glistenm]

Wow.. that chart

Had no idea it was that hard to obtain a green card.

It's a distraction. It's really super easy but we don't want no foreigners in these here parts.

/xenophobia

 

[Medalion]

I can understand that Canada is not gonna appeal to everyone, but I don't like people actually insulting Canada like it's a shithole boring place and other people shouldn't like it either.

 

[womp]

Yeah I am sick of seeing retired wealthy mexicans hanging around outside Home Depot

It's funny you mentioned that. I was out in AZ visiting some friends a month ago and as we passed a Home Depot during a drive, one of them from the area points and says "And on our left the Home Depot Mexicans".

 

[GSG Flash]

I can understand that Canada is not gonna appeal to everyone, but I don't like people actually insulting Canada like it's a shithole boring place and other people shouldn't like it either.

Yeah powercaps was just spewing out a bunch of bullshit, I'm pretty sure he never had any intentions to stay in Canada and Canada was just a stepping stone to what he calls the "greatest country in the world" and "the Rome of our time", neither of which I would apply to the US.

 

[0OoO0]

Just like to thank you for posting this

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17974856&postcount=42

it was really helpful!

 

[Instigator]

Yeah powercaps was just spewing out a bunch of bullshit, I'm pretty sure he never had any intentions to stay in Canada and Canada was just a stepping stone to what he calls the "greatest country in the world" and "the Rome of our time", neither of which I would apply to the US.

America does have gladiators. Canada doesn't.

 

[GSG Flash]

America does have gladiators. Canada doesn't.

Oh yeah? Well Canada has Wolverine

And I'm pretty sure Wolverine can kick the shit out of any pussy gladiator

 

[Instigator]

Wolverine is an American creation and he spends most of his time in the US.

And America has the dumb, unruly mob too, just like old Rome.

Just give up, GSG Flash. Canada is no America. Period.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Don't listen to the canadians in this thread!

except for vancouverans.. vancouver is indeed an awesome city.

 

[GSG Flash]

Wolverine is an American creation and he spends most of his time in the US.

And America has the dumb, unruly mob too, just like old Rome.

Just give up, GSG Flash. Canada is no America. Period.

Shit, alright, you've got me there

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Winnipeg? :lol

If you're going to Alberta, then I suggest you go to Calgary.



Your complaints are the biggest load of bullshit I have read on this forum (off topic side, gaming side has just a much bullshit but on a daily basis), it's like you already made up your mind about Canada before even moving here.

Toronto boring shithole? Maybe try going out for once and meeting people instead of sitting in front of your computer screen all day, Toronto may be a lot of things, but a boring shithole it is not, I mean seriously, during the summer there are festivals and parades like every day. TV channels are screwed up? We have like all the big networks from the US broadcasting here, I have no idea what you're taking about here. Who cares if things are dual labelled in French? When I went to the US, every product I saw was dual labelled in Spanish, you're just fucking nitpicking for the hell of it.

This is, honestly, one of the worst posts I've read in a long time.

lol so WInnepeg is not nice?! I heard it was..but anyways

I think Vancouver is still wonderful, but I think I like the style of Alberta more, it seems more homely. I have been to Calgary and Edmonton, once in summer, and then in the heart of Winter for about a month, it's not THAT cold for me not to bare, so that's no problem for me

Seems like getting into USA is almost impossible. I have family in Atlanta (1st uncle and aunty) and I have family in Winnipeg too, but I don't know how much they can be if they are not direct family members.

I definetely want to head down the working in IT route, so I think I will put my plans into motion this summer. BUt I am about 80% sure I want to go.

I might try heading out there through work, as we have offices in Toronto and Montreal. So if those two cities don't work, then I'll try Alberta/B.C on my own

Milkbags <3 (although I never had these when I was there....)

 

[GSG Flash]

lol so WInnepeg is not nice?! I heard it was..but anyways

It's not that it's not nice, it's just that if there's one place in Canada you can call a boring shithole, Winnipeg would be it. It's a small town with worse winters than southern Ontario without the amenities and the comfort of southern Ontario. Of course, if you're coming from a small town yourself, it may not seem too bad, but since you're coming from London, Winnipeg may seem really claustrophobic.

 

[j_k_redtail]

I apologize in advance for this useless post, but --

So, has anyone else headed to North America from Europe before?

-- I thought this line was hilarious. :lol

Spoiler

(good luck, OP)

 

[Canova]

In 2007 I entered, and won, the US green card lottery. I moved here (Los Angeles) about 3 weeks ago. So you can try and win the lottery, and the chances are about 50 000 in 6 million, not impossible but don't bank on it... Also don't use that green card lottery scam website linked earlier, just fill out the form yourself for free on the state.gov website, takes all of 10 minutes. Unless you do that, or a company hires you and sponsors you to come over (as in they will need to hire you before you set foot in America) it is very VERY hard to get a working visa for the States. I was looking into getting a performers visa before I won the green card, and it was the sort of thing that would take 10 years or so to get, and even then it's a crapshoot. Hell, I won the golden ticket and it took nearly 2 years from entering the lottery to landing at LAX.

Still, I honestly feel like winning that green card is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, things that has ever happened to me. It's a total chance at a brand new life in the greatest country in the world, a chance to live in the Rome of our time, land of the free, all that crap. I have honestly started to believe in all that. I actually just got back from a screening of Michael Moore's "Capitalism", and whilst it is indeed scary, and the recession itself is really fucken scary (as in, I still haven't found a job and the money is running down), I honestly feel that we're in a very historical moment for America, where the options are either to have the US reinvent itself and rise from the midst of adversity, cronyism and corruption to prove yet again that it is the world capital of innovation and freedom, or to fade away over the next 50 years as the country becomes a series of Detroits and we are truly at the end of the American era. And with history on my side, I would not write America off. They, we, will bounce back, and what a great chance to live through that. Besides, you move to America with the economic situation it has, not the economic situation you want.

you're still in your honeymoon period.

come and report back in 6 months when a dose of reality hits you

 

[GoutPatrol]

Oh yeah? Well Canada has Wolverine

And I'm pretty sure Wolverine can kick the shit out of any pussy gladiator

Wolf could kill Wolverine.

 

[SaskBoy]

Move to Saskatoon! I am slightly biased because I live there but it is the best city in Western Canada.

Although it already snowed a few days ago. :|

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

It's not that it's not nice, it's just that if there's one place in Canada you can call a boring shithole, Winnipeg would be it. It's a small town with worse winters than southern Ontario without the amenities and the comfort of southern Ontario. Of course, if you're coming from a small town yourself, it may not seem too bad, but since you're coming from London, Winnipeg may seem really claustrophobic.

I see! I take it you are from Eat Canada? your AV looks familiar

I apologize in advance for this useless post, but --



-- I thought this line was hilarious. :lol

Spoiler

(good luck, OP)

I don't understand why? Grammar?

 

[GSG Flash]

I see! I take it you are from Eat Canada? your AV looks familiar

Nope, no idea what Eat Canada is, I'm guessing a forum?

Anyways, don't take Saskboy's advice! :lol Vancouver and Calgary are easily the best western Canadian cities if you're planning to move out west.

 

[whitehawk]

Wolf could kill Wolverine.

I highly doubt it.

Nope, no idea what Eat Canada is, I'm guessing a forum?

I think he meant East :lol

 

[j_k_redtail]

I don't understand why? Grammar?

Because lots and lots of people have emigrated to North America before. That's the history of the continent, really.

/is tired, needs sleep, thought the line was funny out of context.

 

[Stinkles]

When I went to the US, every product I saw was dual labelled in Spanish,.

I think you were in Mexico or Texas. What you're describing simply doesn't happen en masse.

 

[SaskBoy]

Nope, no idea what Eat Canada is, I'm guessing a forum?

Anyways, don't take Saskboy's advice! :lol Vancouver and Calgary are easily the best western Canadian cities if you're planning to move out west.

Saskatoon is a great city. Better than Winnipeg anyway.:lol

Vancouver and Calgary are nice too.

 

[GSG Flash]

I think he meant East :lol

Oh :lol

If that's what you meant, then yeah I'm from eastern Canada, Ottawa to be specific.

edit:

Saskatoon is a great city. Better than Winnipeg anyway.:lol

Can't argue with that, I'd much rather live in Sakatoon than Winnipeg, although that may change if Winnipeg gets an NHL team again

edit 2:

I think you were in Mexico or Texas. What you're describing simply doesn't happen en masse.

Nope, this was in San Francisco and LA. I've seen some labelled in both languages in NY too.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Nope, no idea what Eat Canada is, I'm guessing a forum?

Anyways, don't take Saskboy's advice! :lol Vancouver and Calgary are easily the best western Canadian cities if you're planning to move out west.

lol yeah East Canada is what i mean!

I'll take a look into the process of getting a visa, or does anyone have a sister/cousin/aunty that needs a husband :O?!

 

[J Tourettes]

...But I don't have the basic understanding of what it entails.

To give you a low down:

-I am a university graduate of Computer Networking (Bsc)
-Work experience in IT , at the moment in the commercial world for a software developer for financial products (by the time I wanna leave England it will be about 2 years of experience
-No debt, kids or luggage
-No savings

So, has anyone else headed to North America from Europe before? I do like Canada, I must say that consists of like 95% of places I would like to emigrate to, places like Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, and most of the places on the west coast (I think Edmonton would be my 1st choice from the whole of Canada)

But then again I also would like Seattle/Washington, NJ/NY (NY is probably so over saturated that it will be hard for me to find work, I presume). I'm from London so living prices don't mean much to me, I get bitched every month by my £350 train ticket, so I know what it is like to live in an expensive city. But I would really like to know about how much I would need to save...

So if anyone has any help, please let me know!

£350 a month? You sure you live in London?

Anyway from what I understand it's ridiculously hard to emigrate to America as a Brit so maybe Canada would be a better option? Alternatively the Far East as others have mentioned could also be worth considering. I had a friend who went to Japan to teach and he liked it but ended up in Poland teaching English and settled there. Quite a contrast! :lol

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

True, but to call the situation of a society that isn't too far off the most successful in the history of mankind 'majorly fucked' seems a bit excessive.

America's been around for what, two centuries or so? Rome would like to have a talk with you.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Wait wtf.. Milk Bags?

I dont get it.. someone explain.

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

£350 a month? You sure you live in London?

Anyway from what I understand it's ridiculously hard to emigrate to America as a Brit so maybe Canada would be a better option? Alternatively the Far East as others have mentioned could also be worth considering. I had a friend who went to Japan to teach and he liked it but ended up in Poland teaching English and settled there. Quite a contrast! :lol

I "live"/work in South West London, but lay my head to rest in Bedfordshire (I came up here for uni D

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Wait wtf.. Milk Bags?

I dont get it.. someone explain.

In Canada, milk comes in bags. The common theory is that the cold must've gotten to their heads up there.

We've had at least a dozen threads about this now.

 

[LQX]

edit-

 

[Big-E]

Wait wtf.. Milk Bags?

I dont get it.. someone explain.

For some reason everywhere apparently outside of BC has milk in bags. In Vancouver we have the standard plastic jugs but that is not the case in the East where this bag option exists. First I ever heard of it was GAF and I have been living in Canada all my life. The concept is so vile that I kind of wish the West can split from the rest of Canada based on this reason alone. Where does it fucking stop? We going to be getting our beer in bags next?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Oh :lol

If that's what you meant, then yeah I'm from eastern Canada, Ottawa to be specific.

edit:



Can't argue with that, I'd much rather live in Sakatoon than Winnipeg, although that may change if Winnipeg gets an NHL team again

edit 2:



Nope, this was in San Francisco and LA. I've seen some labelled in both languages in NY too.

those are called imported products.

 

[Arthrus]

Haven't seen milk in bags in Calgary. Pretty sure it starts somewhere east of Alberta.

Also, Calgary > Edmonton

 

[Socreges]

I never knew about this milk bag bullshit... I'm in Vancouver.

Don't listen to the canadians in this thread!

except for vancouverans.. vancouver is indeed an awesome city.

Vancouverites...

 

[punkypine]

vancouver needs to invest in some freaking snow plows /was in vancouver last december-january

 

[acidviper]

Go to Mexico, THEN to the US!

Or come to Canada

Well you could pay a Mexican snakehead $2000 for him to take you over

OR

You could come to Canada and walk across the thousands of miles of unguarded borderland.

 

[bluescreenoflife]

So, has anyone else headed to North America from Europe before? I do like Canada, I must say that consists of like 95% of places I would like to emigrate to, places like Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, and most of the places on the west coast (I think Edmonton would be my 1st choice from the whole of Canada)

Your choice should pretty much be between Edmonton and Vancouver.


Edmonton has a pretty dry climate, Vancouver is humid, this is a matter of preference as both can be shitty. Edmonton has a far lower population, and therefore less air pollution/smog. Edmonton is a cheaper place to own a house or apartment in general, this is pretty obvious. Edmonton probably has way shittier drivers, we are known for this. If you fancy yourself as a bit of a socialite, Vancouver definitely has more stuff. Nice stores, restaraunts, clubs, blah blah blah. Not that Edmonton doesn't have those kind of things too, but Vancouver's downtown core is like 10x the size so it's bound to have bigger markets for different crowds. I've lived in Edmonton my whole life but I might move to Vancouver in the next couple years, it's definitely a draw when a city is such a huge market... the kind of choices you would have every day of your life just seem insane when there are so many businesses and schools to choose from.

Both cities have an EA videogame studio, but Edmonton's is Bioware and Vancouver's makes the same sports games every year :lol .

If you have visited Edmonton before, and found anything appealing about the layout of the city, the river valley, or the downtown area, then I think you should definitely consider moving here.

On the topic of US cities, you said you would consider Seattle, but really it would be very similar to Vancouver except you'd see less culture, you'd have a harder time buying weed, and be more likely to get shot.

Also, Calgary > Edmonton

Name one thing more appealing about Calgary. In all honesty, Calgary and Edmonton are practically the same city, except people from each hate the other's guts.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Milk in bags. Jesus. Someone tell me which NHL markets are affected by this so I may have my way with those people!!!

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

For some reason everywhere apparently outside of BC has milk in bags. In Vancouver we have the standard plastic jugs but that is not the case in the East where this bag option exists. First I ever heard of it was GAF and I have been living in Canada all my life. The concept is so vile that I kind of wish the West can split from the rest of Canada based on this reason alone. Where does it fucking stop? We going to be getting our beer in bags next?

People in Toronto are taller than people in Vancouver, and its mostly because we have access to cheaper milk.

 

[bluescreenoflife]

People in Toronto are taller than people in Vancouver, and its mostly because we have access to cheaper milk.

Yeah well guys in BC and Alberta swing more pipe than those in Toronto, and it's mostly because Torontonians are well known to have diminutive penises.

 

[themustardman]

lol @ some of the replies!

most have been helpful, but as it seems, USA isn't the place to emigrate to at the moment. Luckily my company has large HQ's in Toronto and Montreal, but I believe Montreal and Quebec suffer from some language laws about French?

I think Canada was always the place. The problem is my ex fiancée is from Vancouver, and when I went over there I fell in love with Canada as a whole, and I still feel to live there, but not in Vancouver..

So I think Alberta, Edmonton might just be the place for me

*edit, I have experienced a Canadian winter, in Edmonton, in December/January

You won't need to know French to get by in Montreal; anywhere else in Quebec you probably will need it.

Edmonton Alberta is a good choice but stay the hell out of Calgary. Last time i heard the job market was still shit there(i could be wrong). I'm from Winnipeg and i would recommend it as long as you don't mind the cold(it would be similar to Edmonton anyways) and don't have the urge for huge sprawling Urban Centers and all that come with them. It's a very cheap city to live in overall.

 

[Rorschach]

It's funny you mentioned that. I was out in AZ visiting some friends a month ago and as we passed a Home Depot during a drive, one of them from the area points and says "And on our left the Home Depot Mexicans".

And they were all sitting in their Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

Yeah well guys in BC and Alberta swing more pipe than those in Toronto, and it's mostly because Torontonians are well known to have diminutive penises.

I'm pretty sure milk consumption is positively correlated with penis size, but nice try.