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So I'm at a Mexican themed party...

Do you feel this party is racist?

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Negaduck said:
As a Mexican i don't care if people want to dress up or even make fun of my race, because in the end, that doesn't take away from the truth of how awesome (at least to me) being Mexican (or i guess any race for that matter) is.

Hell, at that point, it's how awesome being a part of the human race and all the different cultures that have created so many different and inventive/creative things in this world.

if someone wants to dress in a pancho with a toy lawn mower idgaf, i'll have a laugh at it while i chow down on some tacos and drink a beer or whatever.

I've always felt that people aren't able to laugh at themselves because even through satire or making fun of something, they feel like that becomes the truth or even give power to said offense instead of just ignoring it and having a good time.


but that's just me.
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Denle una cerveza a este cabrón!

This is pretty much my same line of thinking.
 
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Negaduck said:
As a Mexican i don't care if people want to dress up or even make fun of my race, because in the end, that doesn't take away from the truth of how awesome (at least to me) being Mexican (or i guess any race for that matter) is.

Hell, at that point, it's how awesome being a part of the human race and all the different cultures that have created so many different and inventive/creative things in this world.

if someone wants to dress in a pancho with a toy lawn mower idgaf, i'll have a laugh at it while i chow down on some tacos and drink a beer or whatever.

I've always felt that people aren't able to laugh at themselves because even through satire or making fun of something, they feel like that becomes the truth or even give power to said offense instead of just ignoring it and having a good time.


but that's just me.
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You, I like you.

Talking from my culture point of view, if you want to make a huge Spanish themed party, with people dressesd as Toreros and Sevillanas, and everyone eating Paella and then having a siesta, have fun!
Same with any videogame character that is a spanish charicature like Vega and Don Flamenco, I found them super funny and cool.
In fact, everyone should learn of the fun made to so many different cultures in Punch-Out!!

Also, reading the OP, isnt that party more about the culture around mexicans (traditional clothes and food) and less about what color of skin they are?
EDIT And further reading the thread Ive read some people say here, "and what is a white themed party?"
Wouldn't that be a totally wrong way to see it? There's not a "white themed party" but a german themed party, or a spanish themed party, or a chinese themed party, or a french themed party... or in this case of course, a Mexican themed party.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
So many people with strong as fuck, ongoing, developing opinions about how theme parties aren't racist who also never post in any racial justice topics. This is who we are, America.
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It's an important discussion, whether you believe it or not. It's not about determining whether the people at the party are racist (that can be accomplished easily enough by observing their words and actions). It's about the topic of "Is it intrinsically racist to borrow from or mimic another culture?"

The answer should always be No.

Language, culture and religion should not be protected above human rights. And like it or not, people should be afforded the opportunity to use cultural artifacts and ideas at their own discretion. Of course the down side is that people can use it for negative or hurtful reasoning, but your feelings do not take precedence over another persons right to express themselves verbally or artistically. If you can't take a hard line with this, then you just end up with a bullshit hierarchical value system of what is and is not culturally acceptable.

And just because I know it will come up; language, culture and religion do not entail genetic qualities such as skin color, gender, sexual orientation, physical traits, and so forth.

And as for you, I don't know you too well, but every thread I've ever seen you in, you're just playing the "I'm the good guy" short game. Just recently in the BLM/Pride Toronto thread, the first thing you did was come in and lambast all Canadians for nitpicking BLM's demands, even though the only demand being criticized was the one that was damaging to the LGBT community, and dare I say homophobic. But there's no time to read the details, BLM>Pride so I've got to get my shots in!

The reason why I don't show up in many racial justice topics is because I have little to add to the discussion, other than "This is horrible." I show up in threads about homophobia and injustice at the hands of religion because it's something I can relate to. In my eyes cultural protection is no different from religious protection, and it is something I strongly oppose.
 
I called out the Pride thread for being entirely about what posters thought BLM did wrong, despite there being many things they did right, which happens in every single BLM thread for reasons we know.
 
Negaduck said:
As a Mexican i don't care if people want to dress up or even make fun of my race, because in the end, that doesn't take away from the truth of how awesome (at least to me) being Mexican (or i guess any race for that matter) is.

Hell, at that point, it's how awesome being a part of the human race and all the different cultures that have created so many different and inventive/creative things in this world.

if someone wants to dress in a pancho with a toy lawn mower idgaf, i'll have a laugh at it while i chow down on some tacos and drink a beer or whatever.

I've always felt that people aren't able to laugh at themselves because even through satire or making fun of something, they feel like that becomes the truth or even give power to said offense instead of just ignoring it and having a good time.


but that's just me.
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That's fucking awesome. More people should be like you.

TheChewyWaffles said:
Insensitive asshole






:P
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Man, if you could be in my kitchen and smell this bomb-ass salsa and lime-brine chips.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I called out the Pride thread for being entirely about what posters thought BLM did wrong, despite there being many things they did right, which happens in every single BLM thread for reasons we know.
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Why dance around it? Your post was accusing Canadians of being racist. You are accusing people of racism.

And I'm sorry but I don't like being called a racist, especially when you set up your own bizarre parameters around it. BLM had their demands agreed to within 30 minutes. There was literally no issue to discuss, except for the one term that was damaging to the LGBT community and did absolutely nothing to further the cause of black people.

But even though I'm a gay man who takes part in Pride Toronto every year, I can't say anything about it until I've met the quota of praising BLM an undisclosed number of times? (even though I like BLMTO quite a lot) And people in this thread can't have a discussion because they haven't taken part in other threads about race?

Like, I just don't get it.
 
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The Albatross said:
Irish Americans get snippy about cultural appropriation on St. Patrick's Day? Being an AOH member, I've never seen/heard that.
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I should have used 'might' instead of 'will' in there. I'm predominantly of Irish descent myself (Dad grew up in South Boston) and my large extended Irish family on both sides all fucking love the silliness of St. Patricks day (and an excuse to get shitfaced).
 
I just chose Other.

I'm pretty much an embarrassment to the stereotype and culture in that I've never felt the need to be involved with it or ever felt like I've been a part of it. I don't dance well, speak spanish, etc. etc. Plus, I'm only half-Mexican.

Just make sure that party has a Pinanta so you can get candy and just eat the food, which is probably the best part of any culture as far as I know.
 
Speaking as someone who has Mexican blood, I'll only be offended if the party is not going full-blown Mexican. Mexican dishes, sweets, music, dancing, and maybe an appearance from a mariachi band would be inoffensive to me, because to me they are celebrating the Mexican culture. Other than that, just have a normal party without trying to seem offensive.
 
Still trying to make some sense out of it.

Some people dont make a fuzz about it, so what if someone comes out with a "Black themed party"
 
The only thing that offends me about cultural theme parties is when the food is shit.

Take my culture, have fun with it. Go ahead and wear some goofy costumes. Just don't serve shitty food that doesn't portray what our amazing food is like.
 
MogCakes said:
Mexican is not a color.
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Yup. Thats the crux here. Having a party themed around a culture is much different then having a party themed at making fun of someones race.

Mexicans can range from people who are white as snow to dark as an Onyx jewel. The people in Mexico are extremely diverse in terms of skin color. Not only that but the cultures also differ on region, that to paste "sombreros and panchos" as encompassing all of Mexicos cultures is an American thing that they do. Its why personally I dont find a "Sombrero, pancho, and mustache" party offensive. The only reason those things became stuck to Mexicans is probably because Pancho Villa kinda became the Mexican icon to the US, seeing as his exploits were made famous and the attire worn by him and his campos were derived from those articles.
 
It's a mexican themed party, what form of dress would you suggest people use if not stereotypical culture dress?

Dress like normal? Well that is boring and against the point of a party.

When a British themed party is thrown feel free to dress like suits in a bowler hat, complete with monocle, don't forget the twirly moustache.
 
it's not racist to just be dressing like that to a themed party. once they start doing horrible speedy Gonzalez accents then there is something wrong.
 
Stallion Dan said:
It's a mexican themed party, what form of dress would you suggest people use if not stereotypical culture dress?

Dress like normal? Well that is boring and against the point of a party.

When a British themed party is thrown feel free to dress like suits in a bowler hat, complete with monocle, don't forget the twirly moustache.
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If it were a british themed party we would be going as redcoats and white wigs.
 
you guys must be fun at partys...

this thread devolved into a mess.
you all should take a step back and breath a little.
its a party, for having fun. sombreros, ponchos, mexican food, tequilabeer, music, fake mustaches.

come to the german octoberfest, wear lederhosen, drink beer, eat bratwurst and look at wellequipped woman in dirndl that can hold up to 12 maß (12 l beer+containers)
do you think we wanna party with you, or do you think we will be deeply hurt by this.

some people got hurt so much in life they turned bitter i guess.
 
Negaduck said:
As a Mexican i don't care if people want to dress up or even make fun of my race, because in the end, that doesn't take away from the truth of how awesome (at least to me) being Mexican (or i guess any race for that matter) is.

Hell, at that point, it's how awesome being a part of the human race and all the different cultures that have created so many different and inventive/creative things in this world.

if someone wants to dress in a pancho with a toy lawn mower idgaf, i'll have a laugh at it while i chow down on some tacos and drink a beer or whatever.

I've always felt that people aren't able to laugh at themselves because even through satire or making fun of something, they feel like that becomes the truth or even give power to said offense instead of just ignoring it and having a good time.


but that's just me.
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SpacePirate Ridley said:
You, I like you.

Talking from my culture point of view, if you want to make a huge Spanish themed party, with people dressesd as Toreros and Sevillanas, and everyone eating Paella and then having a siesta, have fun!
Same with any videogame character that is a spanish charicature like Vega and Don Flamenco, I found them super funny and cool.
In fact, everyone should learn of the fun made to so many different cultures in Punch-Out!!

Also, reading the OP, isnt that party more about the culture around mexicans (traditional clothes and food) and less about what color of skin they are?
EDIT And further reading the thread Ive read some people say here, "and what is a white themed party?"
Wouldn't that be a totally wrong way to see it? There's not a "white themed party" but a german themed party, or a spanish themed party, or a chinese themed party, or a french themed party... or in this case of course, a Mexican themed party.
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I like both of you.
 
So now themed parties are offensive? A little corny maybe? but other than that who gives a shit? Also, if you are offended, that is technically your problem. The world isn't obligated to coddle you when your feelings get bruised. If it bothers you or you feel uncomfortable, simply move on. I think we all should know as adults when something we find offensive merits further action or simply an understanding that we are not required to like what everyone else does/says, and likewise they are not required to accommodate you.
 
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ehh don't think about it to much. Unless someone is actively trying to make it weird or insensitive, just roll with it. You said no brown face so I'd say its okay.

You get extra points if you go looking like this guy.
 
It entirely depends on the party I would think, overall with the information I have, it seems its not. Could it be? yes, but you can see the intention from a mile away in most cases when the intention is explicitly to mock people.
 
So this is where we're at now, is it? Too many sensitive snow flakes it seems... How is dressing up in costume racist? Wanna see racism, check out what was happening to the African Americans being segregated in the USA last century. Not allowed to drink from the same tap. Having their own toilets away from the white folk. THAT'S fucking racism. For fucks sake...
 
Blueboys1306 said:
So this is where we're at now, is it? Too many sensitive snow flakes it seems... How is dressing up in costume racist? Wanna see racism, check out what was happening to the African Americans being segregated in the USA last century. Not allowed to drink from the same tap. Having their own toilets away from the white folk. THAT'S fucking racism. For fucks sake...
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hmm so segregation era racism is the only real kind of racism? guess people these days have it easy and should stop complaining.
 
Cormano said:
Still trying to make some sense out of it.

Some people dont make a fuzz about it, so what if someone comes out with a "Black themed party"
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What if people had a Irish party with green beer?!!!!

Is everyone under 30 outraged by everything all the time? Bunch of PC pansies.
 
So I guess these are fine since they're just costumes, right?

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Leatherface said:
So now themed parties are offensive? A little corny maybe? but other than that who gives a shit? Also, if you are offended, that is technically your problem. The world isn't obligated to coddle you when your feelings get bruised. If it bothers you or you feel uncomfortable, simply move on. I think we all should know as adults when something we find offensive merits further action or simply an understanding that we are not required to like what everyone else does/says, and likewise they are not required to accommodate you.
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You can wear whatever the hell you want, but don't go off crying about political correctness or whatever when people call you out on your bullshit.
 
Not sure if it has been said before in this thread, but mexican is not a race, you are probably thinking about amerindians or mestizos (part white / part amerindian) , that are a large part of the mexican population alongside whites and other races.
 
AcademicSaucer said:
Not sure if it has been said before in this thread, but mexican is not a race, you are probably thinking about amerindians or a mestizos (part white / part amerindian) , that are a large part of the mexican population alongside whites and other races.
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Yup.

A good portion of the population in Mexico is actually descendant from the European people, while another portion is descendant from the indigenous peoples-such as those who are descendant from Mayans or Aztecs. There's a whole word for those who are mixed from the colonies and the native people-mestizo. But beyond that, there's just a huge amount of different ethnicities in Mexico. Having Americans group all Mexicans together is actually a bit offensive in that regard.

And like I mentioned, Americans probably get the image of 'Sombreros, ponchos, and mustaches' from Pancho Villa, because he used to portray himself in Hollywood movies and was generally well known outside of Mexico. After all, the US tried, unsuccessfully, to capture Villa. And I'll repeat myself, but this is why I don't find a Sombrero and Poncho party offensive, because that's only a tiny slice of Mexican heritage. An extremely small partition made famous because of Pancho Villa. When I see Americans boiling down Mexican culture to sombreros and mustaches, I don't find that offensive-I find it hilarious that they don't know how many different cultures there are in Mexico.
 
Dongs Macabre said:
So I guess these are fine since they're just costumes, right?





You can wear whatever the hell you want, but don't go off crying about political correctness or whatever when people call you out on your bullshit.
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Sure, I am perfectly okay with that actually. If I do something that deserves to be called out , so be it. Lesson learned.
 
Even in my own family I got an uncle who is dark as hell and I am light skinned, people are usually shocked when they find out I am Mexican they picture some stereotypical look.
 
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