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So is Madden 08 Wii the definitive version?

Amir0x said:
this doesn't make it more 'arcadey', it just makes it more simplistic and stupid. There are actual legitimate arcade football games to choose from, if that's your preference.
On the Wii? I don't think so. :( I'm pretty much talking theoretically anyway. A football game (arcade or shitty sim) purchase does not lie in my immediate future. :)


oh, and felipeko am cry?
 
I have to say that I am fairly satisfied with the College game...maybe it's an improved version of last years madden engine...

Does anyone else feel this way? I have always preferred Madden to College up to this year on PS3 (I've had the new madden every year since it's first appearance on consoles)
 
IGN: 8.5
Gamespot: 8.0
1UP: 4.5


I am really sorry for 1UP because they are very entertaining and Jeremy Parish is awsome.
But 1UP should stop diggin their own hole.
It looks like John D was the only one there who knew what is going on with the videogame market.

Once they collapse i hope not to see them wondering what went wrong. It is so obvious...
 
Haunted One said:
On the Wii? I don't think so. :(


oh, and felipeko am cry?


Still might be one. Blitz has been listed on the coming soon lists for Wii for quite some time. It just happens to be coming later rather than sooner.
 
mepaco said:
Not sure what you are driving at. This really doesn't have anything to do with the Wii. Madden outsells plenty or much more worthy games on every console, every year.

No, the fact that Metroid Prime (a gamers game) that scored well

is going to be outsold by

Madden 08 (The wii version with "family play") that scored badly

Non-gamers don't care about review scores.
 
Jon_Danger said:
1up tends to think not

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162406


4.5

Reviews be damned, I predict this baby to sell like hotcakes.

I've never been a 1up fan, but it's nice to see someone finally giving this game the reaming it deserves. Awful game.

Jon_Danger said:
Non-gamers don't care about review scores.

Non-gamers don't play Madden though. However, I'm a gamer, and I consequently generally buy games first day. Unfortunately, every review out prior to Madden hitting the streets gave it around an 8.0. It's too bad this review was 2 weeks late, now the damage is essentially done.
 
bdoughty said:
Still might be one. Blitz has been listed on the coming soon lists for Wii for quite some time. It just happens to be coming later rather than sooner.
ah, that's cool. I thought some of the ideas of Blitz: The League on the 360 were pretty cool. Definitely liked the little I played of it more than Madden. I only played half an hour or so, though.


Bidermaier said:
IGN: 8.5
Gamespot: 8.0
1UP: 4.5


I am really sorry for 1UP because they are very entertaining and Jeremy Parish is awsome.
But 1UP should stop diggin their own hole.
It looks like John D was the only one there who knew what is going on with the videogame market.

Once they colapse i hope not to see them wondering what went wrong. It is soo obvious.
looks like a case of information chaos for you, buddy.

Segata Sanshiro said:
Damnit titing, stop using Amazon as a barometer of sales or I'll strangle you with an extension cord
The Wiimote is wireless, though.
 
Jon_Danger said:
No, the fact that Metroid Prime (a gamers game) that scored well

is going to be outsold by

Madden 08 (The wii version with "family play") that scored badly

Non-gamers don't care about review scores.

Yeah, I understand that. It saddens me as well but like I said, it isn't unique to the Wii by any means. Look at how many great PS2 games every year were outsold by Madden. Same on XBox.
 
Bidermaier said:
IGN: 8.5
Gamespot: 8.0
1UP: 4.5


I am really sorry for 1UP because they are very entertaining and Jeremy Parish is awsome.
But 1UP should stop diggin their own hole.
It looks like John D was the only one there who knew what is going on with the videogame market.

Once they collapse i hope not to see them wondering what went wrong. It is so obvious...

NY times gave it an 7.8

"I don’t understand football, but I do understand what it means to throw a ball. "
 
Jon_Danger said:
No, the fact that Metroid Prime (a gamers game) that scored well

is going to be outsold by

Madden 08 (The wii version with "family play") that scored badly

Non-gamers don't care about review scores.


Wait, you're basing this on what, one posters impressions from one store? There is no way MP3 doesn't outsell Madden Wii. No way.
 
I laughed at this statement
"In the end, there's absolutely no reason to choose this one over these other versions: Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, Xbox, or even PSP."

It uses the same engine as PS2 and xbox, so I fail to see how adding in improved controls can make them not recommend it above the last gen versions.

I come from PAL land so I don't really follow NFL, but I got 07 for wii mainly because the controls sounded promising. I really loved the controls for the game, my biggest complaint was mainly that NFL is not my cup of tea, but the controls where fantastic. The two on two minigames on the other hand where an absolute blast, had loads of fun with that.
 
Bidermaier said:
IGN: 8.5
Gamespot: 8.0
1UP: 4.5


I am really sorry for 1UP because they are very entertaining and Jeremy Parish is awsome.
But 1UP should stop diggin their own hole.
It looks like John D was the only one there who knew what is going on with the videogame market.

Once they collapse i hope not to see them wondering what went wrong. It is so obvious...

He's not being sensationalist or out of line. The game is really that bad. It's unplayable online and riddled with bugs. No way it ever deserved an 8.0 or higher. That's just some EA ass kissing if you ask me.

santouras said:
I laughed at this statement
"In the end, there's absolutely no reason to choose this one over these other versions: Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, Xbox, or even PSP."

It uses the same engine as PS2 and xbox, so I fail to see how adding in improved controls can make them not recommend it above the last gen versions.

The controls are the source of several bugs and frustrations. That's probably where his logic lies. There's a bug where snapping the ball will result in automaticly throwing it immediately, in addition to the fact that all gestures take literally 1 second or more to register online.
 
jonezer4 said:
Non-gamers don't play Madden though. However, I'm a gamer, and I consequently generally buy games first day. Unfortunately, every review out prior to Madden hitting the streets gave it around an 8.0. It's too bad this review was 2 weeks late, now the damage is essentially done.

obviously EA disagrees

"Family Play" mode
 
jonezer4 said:
The controls are the source of several bugs and frustrations. That's probably where his logic lies. There's a bug where snapping the ball will result in automaticly throwing it immediately, in addition to the fact that all gestures take literally 1 second or more to register online.
ok that is bad. I'm only going by my experience with 07 and I have to say I enjoyed most of the controls alot and never had bugs like that. They are pretty game breaking tho :-/
 
santouras said:
I come from PAL land so I don't really follow NFL, but I got 07 for wii mainly because the controls sounded promising. I really loved the controls for the game, my biggest complaint was mainly that NFL is not my cup of tea, but the controls where fantastic. The two on two minigames on the other hand where an absolute blast, had loads of fun with that.


What does nintendo power (That is nintendo's gaming mag) say about the Wii controls for madden?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/maddennfl08

Nintendo Power said:
Control hiccups aside, this year's Madden delivers another excellent game of pigskin. Oct 2007, p.87
 
Jon_Danger said:
obviously EA disagrees

"Family Play" mode

Obviously EA's trying to get an easy piece of an expanded market by adding trite, innovationless "features" that might make trick some people into thinking they've actually made the game more approachable.

I don't think it's going to work, however. People are smarter than that. The main reason my dad doesn't play Madden is NOT because he can't wrap his head around the idea of an analog stick.

santouras said:
ok that is bad. I'm only going by my experience with 07 and I have to say I enjoyed most of the controls alot and never had bugs like that. They are pretty game breaking tho :-/

Oh yeah, I'm with you. I loved 07 (wish I hadn't traded it in toward 08) and the controls were actually very well implemented. 08's controls are quite literally a step backward. I think a large reason for it, is they retooled them so they'd fit better with good old "Family Play". They mapped big hits to just the wiimote being pushed forward, as opposed to both the wiimote and nunchuck. What this means is, every time you move your hand on defense, your player is going to dive toward thin air. The best is when you're playing 2 on 2, and you need to shake the controllers for a speedier rush count. Your player will try to do big hits into nobody the whole time, greatly diminishing your ability to actually put pressure on the QB. How something like that makes it to production, you got me.
 
jonezer4 said:
Obviously EA's trying to get an easy piece of an expanded market by adding trite, innovationless "features" that might make trick some people into thinking they've actually made the game more approachable.

I don't think it's going to work, however. People are smarter than that. The main reason my dad doesn't play Madden is NOT because he can't wrap his head around the idea of an analog stick.

I am agreeing with you hear, they are trying to cash in....

Look at boogie's simple controls
 
Haunted One said:
oh, and felipeko am cry?
No yet :(
I have untill the end of the year to enjoy :D
When I went to Walmart earlier today I was surprised to see that the Wii version of Madden was sold out. Don't know if they didn't order a lot or it really is that popular ... but then I was sad when I saw that they still had many copies of MP3 sitting there. So sad.
This gives me hopes!
 
Jon_Danger said:
obviously EA disagrees

"Family Play" mode

Followed only behind by telestrator mode, where both fans and enemies of Michael Vick can draw a large penis on the screen next to him.
 
Gigglepoo said:
What's your beef with Todd?

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3159546&sec=REVIEWS

This review is full of complete misinformation and lies.

Beyond that, the lighting is really poor, and the center-field flags are victims of PS1-style framerate issues. Worse yet, the flags will blow from left field to right, nonstop, even if the wind is actually blowing in toward home plate from right field.

I wouldn't call the lighting poor, but it's not great. Merely good. But who the fuck gives a shit about FLAGS waving in the stadiums that are awesomely detailed?

Outside of the graphics, the game flip-flops between being wholly gratifying and strikingly unpolished. The presentation is a perfect example: After bopping a huge dinger, there's no home-run trot, no replay; it just hurries to the next batter (it's particularly confusing if the ball barely makes it over the wall). On the other hand, if you stroke a game-winning single, players excitedly pour out of the dugout and give out more high-fives than Borat.

Bullshit. There is a home run trot for every home run, as well as game winning celebrations and replays for the dingers.

Sometimes, fielders are so deliberate that runners make it to the next base without a play. Beyond that, there's the oddity of the ball lacking any spin on it as it skips into the outfield. Very strange.

Again, bullshit. Balls can take bad hops and slice and spin in the air and on the ground.

But that's not the only issue with the ball. There's simply not enough differentiation of hits -- there are way too many singles up the middle. And line drives that skip down the foul line often bend back into the field of play, as opposed to scooting naturally into the corners.

Once again, complete shit.

As for the hitting, while the button-based swinging works fine for the PS2, it shows some serious age on the PS3. The lack of right-analog hitting is momentarily welcome -- MLB 2K7 didn't pull it off perfectly. But pressing a button limits your ability to aim the ball to the right or left side. If you want to move a runner over from second to third, your timing has to be precise. Too precise.

Nonsensical complaints. You have to be precise...oh you mean like in real BASEBALL? You mean you have to work to pull a ball to opposite field or go with the pitch? Madness!

In the end, The Show is a solid game, but where the PS2 (and PSP) versions are inspired, the PS3 offering doesn't give the same feeling of "real" baseball. It's a no-contest this season: For the best new-gen baseball, stick with the most beautiful choice: MLB 2K7.

His complaints make no goddamned sense. Period. The game scored a 5.5 MLB 07 isn't a perfect game and the online is fucked up, but it's the best baseball game of the year without question and the best since MVP 05 or High Heat depending on your tastes. After this review, his sports reviews are pretty damn laughable.
 
bdoughty said:
Followed only behind by telestrator mode, where both fans and enemies of Michael Vick can draw a large penis on the screen next to him.


If you circle a receiver before the snap and then play the replay, the circle stays in place; it doesn't disappear while he runs his route. It just turns into a big white mess.

:lol :lol :lol

Too easy.
 
Jon_Danger said:


Best part of that link are the user reviews


Oss B. gave it a9:
This is a really fun game. I have never a been a football fan, but this game intrigued me so I bought it. Many of the complaints from the other reviewers are wrong because the people never took the time to experiment with the controls. The controls work just fine if you aren't spazzing out and throwing your arms in wild desperation. Most likely they were trying to play the game while sitting on their rumps and trying to burn as little calories as possible.



Wii Fit = 10
 
jonezer4 said:
Obviously EA's trying to get an easy piece of an expanded market by adding trite, innovationless "features" that might make trick some people into thinking they've actually made the game more approachable.

I don't think it's going to work, however. People are smarter than that. The main reason my dad doesn't play Madden is NOT because he can't wrap his head around the idea of an analog stick.



Oh yeah, I'm with you. I loved 07 (wish I hadn't traded it in toward 08) and the controls were actually very well implemented. 08's controls are quite literally a step backward. I think a large reason for it, is they retooled them so they'd fit better with good old "Family Play".
You're making out the bugs to be a bigger deal than what they really are. Their rarely if ever happen in game, and if you want to make sure you don't get it just do a fake hike once and every chane of the bug is pretty much gone. The online system has really improved since release.

The game is a solid 8/10. It's biggest problem to me is the atrocious load times, the poor graphics, and the intermingling of the new and old animations.
 
jonezer4 said:
Oh yeah, I'm with you. I loved 07 (wish I hadn't traded it in toward 08) and the controls were actually very well implemented. 08's controls are quite literally a step backward. I think a large reason for it, is they retooled them so they'd fit better with good old "Family Play". They mapped big hits to just the wiimote being pushed forward, as opposed to both the wiimote and nunchuck. What this means is, every time you move your hand on defense, your player is going to dive toward thin air. The best is when you're playing 2 on 2, and you need to shake the controllers for a speedier rush count. Your player will try to do big hits into nobody the whole time, greatly diminishing your ability to actually put pressure on the QB. How something like that makes it to production, you got me.
I read about that big hit thing and did think that it was incredibly stupid for the 2 on 2 games. Pity, cause I was thinking about getting 08 mainly for the online play. Then I remembered that I rarely play 07 due to aforementioned PAL ness and stopped, heh
 
Another pathetic review from those wonderfull jokers at 1UP.


I have read the reviews from all three sites, and 1UP, and the "reviewer" in question(Todd Zuniga) completly half-assed this review, and it was more a personal attack on the Wii, then a review of the game itself.


Here are some choice quotes;

"For most sports gamers, the Wii is little more than a novelty; an amusing yet insubstantial distraction that can't keep pace with the big new-gen hitters."

That's the opening line to the review. He makes his feelings known about the Wii, right from the get. It has NOTHING to do with the game itself. I mean how biased can a review be, when the opening line is nothing more then a rip on the console?

"While the Xbox 360 version of the game kicked off a "best Madden ever?" argument in the office,"

What does this have to do with Madden Wii?

"Not only can you slap yourself in the face with the Wii Remote string (fun!) "

It's a wrist strap. You know it, and the rest of the gaming world knows it. If you dont like it, here's an idea, remove it. You say "string" in an attempt to put the Wii itself(Once again, not even about the game) in a bad light.

There is a shit-ton of problems with his review, and not even worth mentioning, cetainly when comparing them with the other two sites.

In keeping track of 1up, and thier reviews thus far, it is laughable how it is turning out so far.

:lol One of the worst reviews yet to come from 1UP. Keep em' coming guys.
 
avatar299 said:
You're making out the bugs to be a bigger deal than what they really are. Their rarely if ever happen in game, and if you want to make sure you don't get it just do a fake hike once and every chane of the bug is pretty much gone.

Oh, all I have to do is modify the way I play the game to accomodate the bugs? I didn't realize the bug was not the game's issue, but my own.

A football game should not have bugs that result in hiking the ball being misinterpreted as a throw. It should be int he handbook. I had a last play of the game, going for two to win the game, end with me throwing the ball into the ground. That should not happen. Not rarely, but never.

And when I'm playing online, my input should be accepted and represented on the screen in under a second. It makes me feel like I'm actually controlling the game as opposed to watching random computer controlled players have their way.

I don't think either of those are menial complaints.

Add to that the fact that 2 on 2 is now broken, you can't save in superstar mode(!), and creating a team, players, fans, etc. are all gone and you have a game that is significantly worse than its predecessor.
 
Game-Biz said:
So basically I should skip '08 and just buy '07?

Or you could just wait until '09 to see if they have fixed things by then?




Moku said:
"While the Xbox 360 version of the game kicked off a "best Madden ever?" argument in the office,"

What does this have to do with Madden Wii?

That the 360 version of the game gives you pleasant thoughts? The Wii version, not so much?
 
bdoughty said:
Or you could just wait until '09 to see if they have fixed things by then?






That the 360 version of the game gives you pleasant thoughts? The Wii version, not so much?
:lol Just go read the reviews from the major sites. It hilarious.


Wowza. :lol
 
Jon_Danger said:
No, the fact that Metroid Prime (a gamers game) that scored well

is going to be outsold by

Madden 08 (The wii version with "family play") that scored badly

Non-gamers don't care about review scores.
Metroid Prime will not be outsold by Madden Wii. You can quote me on that.
 
RichyDevil said:
GamesRadar gives it a 7.

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/wii/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20070820151651382081&sectionId=1000&pageId=20070820152022987069

"Ultimately, Madden 08 for Nintendo's juggernaut console is by no means a must-have, unless the Wii is the only console in the house and the family is nuts about football."

Sounds about right.
Sounds like an average american home. :D
titiklabingapat said:
Metroid Prime will not be outsold by Madden Wii. You can quote me on that.
Agreed... But still i would love to see that happen :lol
 
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