Father_Brain
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So...is the dream dead for another Sonic Collection game?
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Leafhopper
Banned
Would be the fastest thing ever. Man.
Doctor Ninja
Sphincter Speaker
Pun intended?
Honestly, if music is the only thing holding S3&K back, then why not get the composer for Sonic Mania to replace music with remixes from other Sonic games or just original music period. Yeah it's not the authentic experience but neither was widescreen aspect ratio and Tails in Sonic CD.
To suggest to build or purchase a Whole PC for one game sounds pretty ridiculous. And I'm not suggesting a entire standalone remaster. Just like Halo Master Chief Collection did with Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary edition, up res, clean up some textures and up the frame rate, and have it apart of a BIGGER collection. And more than anything, the way console gaming is headed, games released in this generation will most likely be forwards compatible (except maybe the Switch) which would be the definitive versions of these games for consoles period.
LightningXCE
Member
Apparently this is kindof a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCRx7TCbuQU
I think the ex-devs are working on a PC 'port' of RoL with everything that was supposed to be
petran79
Banned
for this you have to install the PC mod:
Features
Dreamcast Conversion
A new feature added in 4.0 is the inclusion of the incredible Dreamcast Conversion mod by PkR, TheArcadeStriker, and SonicFreak94. This project aims to return the PC version of Sonic Adventure DX to it's appearance on the original Sega Dreamcast. This includes the restoration of the palette lighting engine, as well as ports of the Dreamcast land tables, level models, and textures.
Resolution Options
Use any custom resolution. With “Windowed Fullscreen” and “Stretch Fullscreen” (enabled by default), you can specify resolutions larger than your native which will downsample.
Improved Graphics and Fixes
Texture filtering, Mipmapping and an extensive range of layout and bug fixes, created by the community.
Mod Support
BetterSADX includes and relies on the latest version of SADX Mod Manager, which provides a clean entry point and effective way to manage mods for the game! All of BetterSADX is fully modular, meaning, you can configure and tweak it here to your heart's content. Some of these mods now support automatic updates.
Full Controller Support
Includes the latest version of the Input Mod (By SonicFreak94). This provides improved support with use of the right stick and trigger buttons. It also includes Smooth Cam to give you a smoother first person camera.
It can be even played at Ultra Wide
The Sum of Zero
Member
A Taxman collection with 1, 2, CD, and 3&K would be great.
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 aren't backwards compatible yet so they could release a collection with those and an HD release of Heroes.
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 aren't backwards compatible yet so they could release a collection with those and an HD release of Heroes.
I don't own Sonic Adventure 2 on Xbox 360 but Sonic Adventure 1 is definitely backwards compatible on Xbox One.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Is it? I didn't know this, its not on the list.
The Sum of Zero
Member
https://majornelson.com/blog/xbox-one-backward-compatibility/
No it's not. I owned both on 360, neither show up as ready to install on XB1 like other BC games.
For those wanting to play the Taxman ports of Sonic 1 & 2 on devices other than a phone, I recommend the Fire TV ports as they support controllers. The non-stick version of the Fire TV supports USB controllers, and pair that with RetroUSB's Genesis adapter, you can play them on a TV. It's incredible.
I am so sorry, I could have sworn with every fiber in my being that it was. I just checked my Xbox and it isn't. My brain must have subconsciously put it in there along side the other backwards compatibility games.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Wishful thinking is probably what it was. I can sympathize. There's no excuse when NiGHTS and Sonic the Fighters are BC.
You can speed the game up all you want, but the bugs must remain!
aygomyownroad
Member
I just want Sonic R
Professor Beef
Banned
I want Sonic Heroes on Steam or some form of digital download.
When a dude will sue for the rights to his five hundred Knuckles recolors you gotta be careful.
For instance, we already know who did Icecap's music - Brad Buxer. And it's based pretty directly on a commercially-released song published by a record label. That could very easily be lawsuit territory if Sega doesn't have full rights to it.
OfTheOverflow
Member
What have you done to me OP. Now I'm thinking of the poor old Rush series stuck on DS 
Man I can't believe PSP owners like myself got Rivals instead of Rush lmao
You can get it as a PS2 Classic via PSN, but I agree. Would like to see it on modern hardware.
Man I can't believe PSP owners like myself got Rivals instead of Rush lmaoYou can get it as a PS2 Classic via PSN, but I agree. Would like to see it on modern hardware.
Professor Beef
Banned
breh i'm in the US, y'all UK guys are holding it hostage
Azure Phoenix
Member
You'd think it would make sense for Sega to do a proper collection of their older Sonic games, or at least an initiative to port them all to more recent hardware/PC, but that would make money and Sega don't seem to like to do that. The following games all are in pretty crummy situations:
Sonic 1 & 2 - Stuck on mobile for no good reason
Sonic 3&K - Probably will never be remade because Sega can't be bothered to fix the music legal issues
Sonic 3D - Stuck on Saturn, seemingly forever forgotten
Knuckles Chaotix - Hope you like spending a fortune to get a 32X setup for one game
Sonic R - Gamecube via Gems
Sonic the Fighters - PS3/360
Segasonic - LOL
Sonic Pocket Adventure, Advance 1/2/3, Rivals 1/2 - Stuck on original handheld hardware
Game Gear/Master System stuff - Gamecube/PS2 via Gems (enjoy those D-Pads!)
Sonic Adventure DX - Gotta track down an original physical PC disc and mod the shit out of it because the recent ports are awful
Sonic Heroes - Find an original PC disc
Shadow, 06 - Thankfully stuck on original hardware
Unleashed, Colours - Original hardware
Sonic 1 & 2 - Stuck on mobile for no good reason
Sonic 3&K - Probably will never be remade because Sega can't be bothered to fix the music legal issues
Sonic 3D - Stuck on Saturn, seemingly forever forgotten
Knuckles Chaotix - Hope you like spending a fortune to get a 32X setup for one game
Sonic R - Gamecube via Gems
Sonic the Fighters - PS3/360
Segasonic - LOL
Sonic Pocket Adventure, Advance 1/2/3, Rivals 1/2 - Stuck on original handheld hardware
Game Gear/Master System stuff - Gamecube/PS2 via Gems (enjoy those D-Pads!)
Sonic Adventure DX - Gotta track down an original physical PC disc and mod the shit out of it because the recent ports are awful
Sonic Heroes - Find an original PC disc
Shadow, 06 - Thankfully stuck on original hardware
Unleashed, Colours - Original hardware
Holy shit that is Bizarre to listen to. Never knew it was based on an actual song. In this case it should be pretty easy to get the rights for this correct?
What have you done to me OP. Now I'm thinking of the poor old Rush series stuck on DS
You can get it as a PS2 Classic via PSN, but I agree. Would like to see it on modern hardware.
Why SEGA/Nintendo didn't take advantage of the Wii U virtual console is beyond me. We could have had all the DS Sonic games on Virtual Console.
While I agree there should be a collection, I feel like there's a bit of nitpicking here.
They're not "stuck on mobile." They're on PS3 and 360. And more importantly, the 360 games are backwards compatible with Xbox One, so they're available on a current generation console.
This is also on PS3/360 and is backwards compatible with Xbox One. I'm not sure how the "music legal issues" are related to that.
These are both completely valid.
You can play it on Xbox One.
All valid but I also don't believe there's a big demand for them.
Adventure simply isn't a great game in the first palce. It was good when it released and has aged terribly. The 360 and PS3 port is just fine for the mediocre game that it is. (Though it isn't backwards compatible yet.)
This needs a remaster.
Theslammer
Member
CD was put on PSN and I believe also XBL. That's how I played it for the first time.
I wish they'd be put in a collection as they were during the PS2 generation. And for Sonic 2, I wish they'd do the mobile version so we can get Hidden Palace. The way they implemented it in the mobile version was pretty great.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Errr... no. The Taxman versions are iOS and Android only. We're not talking about the poorly emulated Backbone/Digital Eclipse trash.
Again, poorly emulated Backbone/Digital Eclipse trash. S3&K's legal status is seemingly related to putting the game out in anything other than it's original form.
No, just no. Just, stop there. If you're honestly saying that garbage port is good enough then you really don't have much of an idea of the topic at hand. There are a billion poorly emulated or ported Sonic games out there, we're talking about remastered or properly emulated versions that provide a better way to play the games rather than on outdated hardware.
I don't know anything about ROM hacking, but if it were that easy surely we'd be up to our necks in widescreen hacks of classic games by now.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Honestly I want to form the words to sum up how stupid that statement is, but it's impossible. "I don't like this game therefore I think it deserves a shit port to spite everyone that does".
No, they aren't. They're low quality emulation efforts that are some of the worst available methods to play Sonic 1 and 2. Controls are wonky (especially in the S2 special stages), original menus cannot be accessed to use cheats, online multiplayer is totally broken in S2, sound is off. But hey, if your acceptable standard for emulated games is that it kinda works, be my guest.
Aternate solution: Taxman's Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Original Sonic 3 ROM as an unlockable with the original MJ music in tact
Do it segaaaaaa
Fancyarcher
Member
Well they have made plenty of Sonic Game Collections in the past. Just not complete ones mind you.
Triforce141
Member
Regardless of a game's quality, a port should be of the same quality or even better than the original itself, not something that gets diminished over time with each subsequent rerelease.
It's why people complain about bad ports like Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition, Tales of Symphonia HD, the Call of Duty series on PC, Bayonetta PS3, Silent Hill HD. They are "just fine" and playable from start to finish, but players deserve a better experience than that
Except the "port" jobs on 360 and PS3 aren't actual ports, just poorly coded emulators running roms of the games themselves
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
I want this so bad....game is better than generations in a lot of ways mostly the music
Someone could correct me if IÂ’m wrong, but to do this, youÂ’d basically have to write an emulator for a non-existent variation of Genesis hardware that could output a 16:9 resolution. YouÂ’d then also probably need to raise some specs, like video memory, on this fictional hardware to support running this higher resolution without performance loss. THEN youÂ’d need to modify the game code to support these changes, and likely modify some camera positioning and level layouts in a few places to accommodate all this.
All of this is not impossible, of course. M2 did something vaguely along these lines to enable 3D output for the Sega 3DS classics. But it’s not as easy as flipping a “widescreen hack” switch.
Well that's the issue at hand. If I want a somewhat "complete" collection of at least the classic games I would have to go back to Sonic Mega Collection Plus for The OG and PS2.
Azure Dream
Member
Eh, Generations proved that for whatever reasons, they'd rather negotiate short-time deals with the musicians, rather than get the rights outright.
It's also kind of a murky area, since it was the same composer recycling his own work, and the song was technically unreleased, not to mention the question of how involved MJ was (my personal guess is that any track with vocal samples, even if they're not actually MJ, are potentially unsafe legally).
I wouldn't lay that blame at Sega's feet. Nintendo was pretty slow to spin up the Virtual Console on the Wii U in the first place.
It's a good thing with the Switch they... oh.
Sorry, I think you're being hyperbolic. I don't think the Adventure port is shit. And I had no issues with the controls in Sonic 1 and 2.
Leafhopper
Banned
Nah I meant that Unleashed is the fastest Sonic game they ever made, it with a good framerate would be amazing lol.
SoulUnison
Banned
What are the chances we ever see Colors on a non-Wii platform?
Then again, in the middle of typing that I realized Lost World is on Steam, and that was part of the Sonic exclusivity deal for Wii U, so...
But that was also a bizarre port that didn't remove a lot of the Wii U trappings from the final package.
I'd like to have Unleashed on Steam, at least. I don't own a 360 anymore.
Then again, in the middle of typing that I realized Lost World is on Steam, and that was part of the Sonic exclusivity deal for Wii U, so...
But that was also a bizarre port that didn't remove a lot of the Wii U trappings from the final package.
I'd like to have Unleashed on Steam, at least. I don't own a 360 anymore.
Silvawuff
Member
I'd love to see a proper remaster/release/collection of some of the unloved Sonic games of yore, especially Knuckles Chaotix. I think that title in itself with its music/level design/characters/gameplay came as close to the mainline classic Sonic games as we're going to get before Mania.
Trying to look at things from Sega's point of view, I'd want to push Forces a bunch, see how Mania does, then start making decisions from there on how to best monetize classic Sonic games.
Here's hoping for more Hedgie love in the near future!
Trying to look at things from Sega's point of view, I'd want to push Forces a bunch, see how Mania does, then start making decisions from there on how to best monetize classic Sonic games.
Here's hoping for more Hedgie love in the near future!
Azure Dream
Member
You have Unleashed on there twice, but since Unleashed PS2/Wii is actually a different game (better in some respects, IMO), guess that works.
2006 is basically a nervous chuckle at best for Sega right now. They milked the shit out of it, and now don't even like pretending it exists. It's amazing they never put the PC version out, even if it was just in an obscure foreign market, like seems to happen now and then. But trust me, you don't actually want to play it. Sonic 2006 isn't a funny bad game, it's a mediocre game that pulls bullshit on you sometimes. 9 minutes of nothing, and suddenly something just... goes wrong, sending you back to a checkpoint 4 minutes ago.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Make it two separate collections, one Classic with the 8-bit and 16-bit games (Sonic 1-3&K, CD, Sonic 1, 2 and Chaos Master System versions, Sonic Triple Trouble and maybe Tails' Adventure) and a Modern (SA 1 and 2, Heroes, Unleashed etc.). That way fans of both variants of Sonic can have their fill.
petran79
Banned
Both Sonic Adventure games are on Steam
Azure Dream
Member
It used to be that the fix mods wouldn't work with the newer Steam version. But that was fixed years ago.
You do still have to mod the crap out of SA1, though. There are some significant differences from the console versions, and the mods restore that. Not to mention proper widescreen support.
I think the SA2 port is supposed to be excellent, though.