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[Trojita]

First Post should have been Your girlfriend is an idiot.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Man, listen to all y'all.

Not that I don't agree.

Its just, at least I'm trying to keep him in the business of getting laid.

 

[CygnusXS]

Glad my girlfriend is an atheist. Only problem is the only drugs she lets me take is weed/alcohol... meh all relationships have there downfalls.

i'm extremely happy though.

Yeah, my gf wants me to shave. Fuck her.

 

[MattKeil]

A year and a half? My hat is off to you. I don't think I'd have lasted a day and a half.

 

[Az]

Ride it out, or let her...

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Technically we can't know anything we don't study for ourselves. Technically we have blind faith in scientific studies, just because we read the news about them.

And historical stuff, too.

Great post

 

[Brazil]

I honestly couldn't be romantically involved with someone who believed the earth was only 6000 years old.

I wouldn't be able to do it either.

 

[Volimar]

I briefly dated a girl that thought that dinosaur bones were put in the ground by the devil to be dug up so that we'd doubt the story of the bible.

briefly

 

[Miles X]

I agree about thinking ahead, if you two put this aside and fell deeply in love, had kids, you two would so clash over what they should be brought up believing in.

 

[Prez]

Is the earth being 6000 years old and created by some super being really any more bewildering than the fact we're spinning on a rock in the middle of nothing and still arguing over which screen protector to get.

Yes, it is.

 

[Zoe]

Do you think you could spend the rest of your life with her? Do you want children? Would you be okay with her teaching her beliefs to your children?

You may want to cut your losses now.

 

[The Elite]

Deal breaker.

 

[Maximilian E.]

Is she a Kent Hovind fan?

Well, if you really want to start a debate with her and make her question her faith, then proceed with these questions (it can damage your relationship)

"Who says or what proves that Christianity has it right regarding the age of the universe?"

(because there are other religions in the world with different creation theories, why can't they be right?)

this stupid idea that earth is just 6000 years old is based in Christian beliefs and the only reason that people in the US believe in this is because Europeans brought Christianity to the Americas. Ask her a hypothetical question: what if it were the Hindus that brought their religion to the US, would she believe their creation theory? Or Buddhism?

There is NOTHING that states that Christianity is "the" religion with the correct answers, all religions provides "answers" that people interpretate for their likings.

Well, good luck

 

[Flo_Evans]

meh, does it really matter?

Like is she on a game show with the potential to win millions of dollars for answering the approximate age of the earth correctly this might be an issue.

 

[Vermillion]

Get the equippment and test it if you dont believe other people. The great thing about science is that it encourages people to find errors in a theory.

I'm aware. My point is that the majority of people don't.

 

[Suairyu]

Couldn't comprehend dating someone I didn't respect. There's difference of beliefs and then their is just, as most Catholics would call this situation, outright willing ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

That isn't contradicting what he's saying.

 

[Cosmic Bus]

She will never look up at the stars and be in simple awe and wonder at the age of what she is seeing. She will never look at another galaxy through a telescope and wonder how many millions of years ago it looked like that. She will never look at the Grand Canyon and marvel at how long it took mother nature to carve it out. She will never believe the age of the dinosaurs. ... It's all lost on her, and others like her.

This is part of your post is very, very strange to me. Christians and other religious faiths are quite capable of experiencing awe and wonder towards the universe as much as anyone else, just that we hold different opinions of its origins. That doesn't change how amazing it all is, nor does someone holding these beliefs have much, if any, effect on you any more than your beliefs affect other faiths. It makes you come off as a bit childish, getting upset because "No! You HAVE TO think the same things as me!"

Learn to be more open-minded. It will serve you well in life.

 

[Vagabundo]

People can change. Not that I'd hold out that she will. Just be careful, because if you have kids she will probably try teach them this crap.

If you love her and can live with her then don't worry about it. You're one of the lucky ones

 

[Count Dookkake]

First Post should have been Your girlfriend is an idiot.

I was trying to be nice. Taking the long route, rather than cutting across the lawn.

I'm aware. My point is that the majority of people don't.

Because we don't need to.

The track record suggests that it is expedient to accept certain concepts as true.

This is not faith in the religious sense.

 

[jmdajr]

How frustrating...

 

[DragonKnight]

So...you're not having sex?

 

[Mengy]

Same. I'd bail straight after the first conversation.

Get a new girlfriend/FHUTA/stealth brag thread/feed it pizza

I honestly couldn't be romantically involved with someone who believed the earth was only 6000 years old.

Time to get a new girlfriend then. That one is broken. Maybe she never went to school?

Dump her, it's not worth it. Also ; birth control and stuff, you might end up getting trapped at some point, when her sky jedi is going to tell her its time for babbies.

You know, there was a time where I would have said all of the above comments. I used to think I could never date someone who thought like that. However, I've learned that being with someone who believes exactly as I do really isn't that important to me. Love is more important, and she is a hell of a good girl. Plus, I really do have fun debating the whole young Earth thing with her, I'd actually miss it somewhat if she came around.

Still, trying to imagine the universe from her perspective, it just seems like so much grandeur and awe is lost through her eyes...

 

[LeleSocho]

I honestly couldn't be romantically involved with someone who believed the earth was only 6000 years old.

Same here, a person who rely all their knowledge on a religion is a person that will never be able to have any kind of respect from me.

 

[Count Dookkake]

You know, there was a time where I would have said all of the above comments. I used to think I could never date someone who thought like that. However, I've learned that being with someone who believes exactly as I do really isn't that important to me. Love is more important, and she is a hell of a good girl. Plus, I really do have fun debating the whole young Earth thing with her, I'd actually miss it somewhat if she came around.

Still, trying to imagine the universe from her perspective, it just seems like so much grandeur and awe is lost through her eyes...

So how is the sex?

 

[Arment]

Why would anyone date someone with that belief? Generally your goal is marriage. A year and a half with someone who clearly isn't compatible with you seems like a waste of time. Unless you're just in it for the sex then continue as usual.

 

[Darklord]

Love is more important..

I can't find love in an unintelligent woman who I can't respect. No offense to your girl.

 

[PoweredBySoy]

Dump her. Believing in some kind of God is one thing, refusing FACTS for nonsense means they're weak minded and indoctrinated.

But isn't that the way religion pretty much has to be these days? Science continues to back-peddle the Bible, to the point where Christians need to cherry pick 'facts' from it while at the same time ignoring, or inventing some interpretation for the stuff that is blatantly bullshit.

 

[goodfella]

She will never believe in the beautiful poetic harmony that we are all ancient stardust billions of years old, scattered across the universe

Honestly, it is more beautiful and poetic to believe that we are all destined for the afterlife and that we are all under the eye of a God, who will ensure our immortal and everlasting happiness when we die.

No reason to be sad for her missing out on the depressing reality that we all just end.

 

[Vermillion]

Because we don't need to.

The track record suggests that it is expedient to accept certain concepts as true.

This is not faith in the religious sense.

Track record of...? Basic facts? How many people have tested them either? Done the math?

We accept certain facts as true all the time (as history has shown), and then something comes up and previous knowledge is overturned. Hence we also know from the track record that certain established facts can turn out to be wrong. Yet we still believe.

That is, until the group of people say "we were wrong," and then we believe the new thing. In the end, every belief we have is based on some degree of faith.

 

[NullPointer]

The great thing about people with blind faith is that they'll swallow anything.

 

[Double D]

How about this: My gay sister believes in Creationism.

 

[Carbonox]

I honestly couldn't be romantically involved with someone who believed the earth was only 6000 years old.

This.

Kudos to anyone who has the patience to deal with this on a long-term basis.

 

[Suairyu]

Love is more important

Speaking from experience, love can be the cruelest thing in the world. It is entirely possible to fall absolutely in love with someone knowing full well it's never going to work.

I mean, generally, the formula for love is the following:

intimacy + time = love

However, you go on to say "... and she is a hell of a good girl" so here's hoping there's more to it than that. I'm just saying, think carefully about things, alright? Love is horrible. If you think you're going to need to bail, it always works out best if you bail sooner rather than later, for both of you.

Of course, no-one ever bails before they have no choice, either. That's love.

 

[Darklord]

But isn't that the way religion pretty much has to be these days? Science continues to back-peddle the Bible, to the point where Christians need to cherry pick 'facts' from it while at the same time ignoring, or inventing some interpretation for the stuff that is blatantly bullshit.

No. I don't know any religious people who believe that. In fact, every single who is thinks it's idiotic. Seems to be a lot stronger in America because America is the most religious western country.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

What do you want?

 

[Count Dookkake]

Track record of...? Basic facts? How many people have tested them either? Done the math?

We accept certain facts as true all the time (as history has shown), and then something comes up and previous knowledge is overturned. Hence we also know from the track record that certain established facts can turn out to be wrong. Yet we still believe.

That is, until the group of people say "we were wrong," and then we believe the new thing. In the end, every belief we have is based on some degree of faith.

The "track record" includes things like: medicine, airplanes, phones, etc.

This stuff tends to work and that is why most of us are not compelled to test everything we learn of through science news. Some are also aware that studies may contradict one another and that further testing may be required.

Again, this is nothing at all like faith in the religious sense. You can not conflate the two, no matter how many times you choose to dodge that point.

 

[Trojita]

No. I don't know any religious people who believe that. In fact, every single who is thinks it's idiotic. Seems to be a lot stronger in America because America is the most religious western country.

Hahahahaha. Have you been to Mexico, Central America, or South America?

 

[Lionheart1337]

Educate her.

 

[Orayn]

Show her AronRa's Fundamnetal Falsehoods of Creationism on YouTube. If she sees that and hasn't budged an inch, I would not advise staying with her.

 

[tuffy]

Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World

 

[Suairyu]

Hahahahaha. Have you been to Mexico, Central America, or South America?

they're not western because they're not rich

 

[Kapura]

You know, there was a time where I would have said all of the above comments. I used to think I could never date someone who thought like that. However, I've learned that being with someone who believes exactly as I do really isn't that important to me. Love is more important, and she is a hell of a good girl. Plus, I really do have fun debating the whole young Earth thing with her, I'd actually miss it somewhat if she came around.

Still, trying to imagine the universe from her perspective, it just seems like so much grandeur and awe is lost through her eyes...

You don't need to believe exactly what your S.O. does, but there are some things that should be agreed upon. We need air to breathe. The sky is blue. Etc. I don't have any problem with religion; I'm an atheist religion apologist, but there is a difference between having faith in things that cannot be proven and denying things which can. Let the disagreements happen in other places where the values are internal and discussion can educate both parties.

 

[marrec]

You know, there was a time where I would have said all of the above comments. I used to think I could never date someone who thought like that. However, I've learned that being with someone who believes exactly as I do really isn't that important to me. Love is more important, and she is a hell of a good girl. Plus, I really do have fun debating the whole young Earth thing with her, I'd actually miss it somewhat if she came around.

Still, trying to imagine the universe from her perspective, it just seems like so much grandeur and awe is lost through her eyes...

That's your choice and I won't fault you. I simply can't stand to be around someone who is so willfully ignorant is all. Me and my fiancee have plenty to disagree on (Like whether morality is inherent or societal). Love is important, but so is the future teaching and influence of your children should you have any.

I would not want this woman being the mother of my Children.

 

[Vermillion]

But isn't that the way religion pretty much has to be these days? Science continues to back-peddle the Bible, to the point where Christians need to cherry pick 'facts' from it while at the same time ignoring, or inventing some interpretation for the stuff that is blatantly bullshit.

Nah, my pastor always talked about how we shouldn't ignore science or anything like that. He was of the belief that science did not contradict the Bible, rather it served it. As for the seven days thing... he noted that there's a gap between Genesis verse 1 and verse 2. You may note that it says nothing of Satan being cast from heaven, and how the Earth was without form. Which gives an indefinite extra amount of time.

For the official record, I'm agnostic. Agnostic-Agnostic (yeah, I know that it's either AA or AT, but I'm inbetween on the second part too - I do not believe in at least one God, but I don't not believe either... possible, I guess).

 

[JGS]

He obviously respects her though.

With that said love is not more important than compatability. It just sounds more romantic.

 

[LowEndTorque]

run.

 

[Darklord]

Hahahahaha. Have you been to Mexico, Central America, or South America?

They aren't western counties in a culture sense. I'm talking about America, Australia, UK, New Zealand, ect.

 

[Orayn]

Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World

A bunch of stuff happened around then.

 

[Mengy]

So how is the sex?

Fantastic. Utterly fantastic.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Fantastic. Utterly fantastic.

Maybe you could point out that pre-marital sex is not supposed to correlate with belief in a young Earth.