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So NOA, do you have any plans on releasing anything ever again?
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charlequin
Banned
Nuclear Muffin said:
It's not fucking rocket science. What's with this Nintendo fan need to treat NCL like the special-needs hardware manufacturer? The solution to the whole problem is really fucking simple: pay money to develop some fucking games, the way that (say) Sony and Microsoft have no problems doing both internally and with second-party development partners.
And, again, this totally fails to address the actual NOA problem, which is their consistent failure to localize even the reasonably small quantity of games that NCL is publishing.
SkySonata said:
One of the many problems with Nintendo's terrible organizational setup is that NCL has too much influence on how the regional branches do things, but the idea that the Japanese head is arbitrarily forcing the American branch to bring over almost nothing from their lineup, and fewer total games than Europe, still doesn't pass muster.
SilentProtagonist
Member
Guys, I'm sorry to say it but... Nintendo doesn't care about you.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/933/933583p3.html
Coming from the "replacement" for Perrin Kaplan, this is an absolutely pathetic response.
I'm not thrown off by big games being released outside of the holiday season. I'm even reasonably okay with Nintendo having an empty holiday schedule, personally, as I am way behind on playing games due to lack of time in "real life." However to be patronized like this as if I'm a mewling child by Perrin Kaplan's "replacement" greatly pisses me off. Games coming out in 2009 do not make up for leaving the holiday empty for the first time that I can remember. She needed to stand up, apologize to the core gamers, and say that things will get better.
She has no idea about how to converse with gamers or the gaming press. In the position as VP of Marketing at a gaming company, that's really, really bad.
Coming from the "replacement" for Perrin Kaplan, this is an absolutely pathetic response.
I'm not thrown off by big games being released outside of the holiday season. I'm even reasonably okay with Nintendo having an empty holiday schedule, personally, as I am way behind on playing games due to lack of time in "real life." However to be patronized like this as if I'm a mewling child by Perrin Kaplan's "replacement" greatly pisses me off. Games coming out in 2009 do not make up for leaving the holiday empty for the first time that I can remember. She needed to stand up, apologize to the core gamers, and say that things will get better.
She has no idea about how to converse with gamers or the gaming press. In the position as VP of Marketing at a gaming company, that's really, really bad.
donny2112 said:
Are you sure?
http://goneisgone.blogspot.com/2008/09/unannounced-nst-project-wii.html
_Alkaline_
Member
Spiegel said:
We can't assume anything. For all we know, they might be developing something quite substantial. It is NST though, so either way it's probably going to be pretty average. And I wouldn't bet on a new 1080 coming out - as far as I can tell, Avalanche didn't do so hot.
As for Nintendo's output, I think there are two ways to look at it. On one hand, yes, their 2008 holiday output is weak. Wario Land is a very solid game, and AC is AC, but overall there's none of the heavy hitters that the other consoles are offering. (That said, many of these blockbuster games are from 3rd parties, most of whom are ignoring the Wii, so not all blame should be put on just Nintendo).
On the other hand, to simply assume that this will be a continuing trend would be more ignorance than anything. Granted we don't know that much about Nintendo's release schedule for 2009, but we do know that we'll see Punch-Out!!, Sin and Punishment 2 and most likely Pikmin 3. Don't forget that Nintendo don't announce most of their games until they're close to being released, so there will be a lot more games to come (and given the holiday drought, you'd damn well hope so).
I think people are being too harsh on the company anyway. Yes, their lineup for this holiday sucks ass. But considering that we've already seen a new Zelda, a new Mario, a new Metroid, a new Wario, a new Smash Bros., a new Mario Kart, a new Animal Crossing, a new Fire Emblem, a new Paper Mario and more (Battallion Wars II, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Endless Ocean, Excite Truck, Mario Strikers Charged, etc), their output on Wii so far has actually been pretty good. The quality of their games has been (for the most part) superior to the Gamecube and with MotionPlus, hopefully we see some really exciting content from them during the next couple of years.
One thing though - is it just me, or is Nintendo of Europe doing better than Nintendo of America lately? Usually NOE are inept, but in recent times they've been releasing games earlier and even had games that haven't come out in America, like Disaster for example.
Cynar said:
*facepalm*
Fire Emblem is Fire Emblem and would be worth the purchase price alone. We're not talking about what has been, though. We're talking about the empty holiday release list for a Nintendo console, where they've never left it empty before. Please don't try to sugarcoat this inept holiday lineup as anything better than what it is. We know there have been great games already released, and we know that (hopefully) great games are coming. That doesn't excuse the current emptiness, though. The fact that there are Wii/DS releases that haven't been localized from Japan that should've been localized by now doesn't help NOA's position any, either.
Nintendo needed RARE to prevent openings like this before (how awesome would Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts have done on the Wii in an empty Fall like this?), but they no longer have that crutch.
Its all about this. I think they are holding back almost everything, waiting for Wiimotion plus. The games where the controls aren't traditional or used like a pointer/mouse, end up controlling like ass. Even the sword swinging in Zelda is pretty weak.
I think once the motion plus drops, we will see a flood of releases.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Tiktaalik said:
It was an okay title. But they don't release enough games to pass on anything.
You fools!
You should have prepared yourself for this like me.
I still have yet to buy Galaxy, Brawl, Zach and Wiki, Mario Kart, Okami, Umbrella Chronicles, No More Heroes, Super Paper Mario or ANYTHING from WiiWare. I have plently of games to last this drought, unlike you would gorge yourselves as soon as a game is released.
When will you people learn to pace themselves with new releases to make up for dry spells, didn't the N64 and GC teach you anything?
You should have prepared yourself for this like me.
I still have yet to buy Galaxy, Brawl, Zach and Wiki, Mario Kart, Okami, Umbrella Chronicles, No More Heroes, Super Paper Mario or ANYTHING from WiiWare. I have plently of games to last this drought, unlike you would gorge yourselves as soon as a game is released.
When will you people learn to pace themselves with new releases to make up for dry spells, didn't the N64 and GC teach you anything?
Bluemercury
Member
They also let LBP going to Sony, just to show how useless they are. I mean, most third parties probably dont go to NOA for anything. Then the LBP developer shows first at NOA, things probably didnt move too much, and now the game just got released by Sony.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
The funny thing to me is that one of these years, we'll have another Nintendo announcement anticipation thread(tm) that doesn't end in tears for the Nintendo camp. It's happened before - even in the last decade. The Dragon Quest 9 and Twilight Princess E3 unveiling for instance. The problem is that Nintendo can only seem to produce these types of megatons every few years, but they're so memorable that people expect them to happen again and and again and again.
I've come to the point where I know that a megaton will happen every so often, and when it does, it's great, but in the meantime I can sit back with a bowl of popcorn and a bowl of edamame and laugh my ass off at all of the meltdowns.
I've come to the point where I know that a megaton will happen every so often, and when it does, it's great, but in the meantime I can sit back with a bowl of popcorn and a bowl of edamame and laugh my ass off at all of the meltdowns.
SilverLunar said:
Fixed.
Also, I can think of a few franchises needed/wanted on Wii
-Kid Icarus (most likely will be coming to the Wii if all of the rumors are true)
-StarTropics
-Chibi-Robo
-Custom Robo
-Pikmin
-Kirby
-Star Fox
-Earthbound/Mother
-F-Zero
-Mario Party (9)
-Paper Mario RPG designed from the ground up for the Wii (Super Paper Mario started out on Gamecube)
-Pokemon RPG (Even though the Wii has has Pokemon Battle Revolution it also needs something similar to Pokemon Colosseum, albeit good)
-Starfy (Never going to happen though...)
-Donkey Kong Platformer
-The Legend of Zelda (designed from the ground up for the Wii this time)
-Mario Tennis
-Mario Golf
-Wave Race
-1080 Snowboarding
-Luigi's Mansion
-Pilotwings
-Yoshi's Island (or some sort of Yoshi game)
-Golden Sun
-Mario vs. Donkey Kong (for Wiiware of course)
-Nintendogs
-Brain Age
-Professor Layton (not sure if the IP is owned by Level 5 or Nintendo, but either way a Wii Professor Layton with more complex/in-depth puzzles would be awesome)
-Hotel Dusk
-Ice Climbers
If you asked me back in September, I'd probably also tell you:
-Sin and Punishment 2
-Punch Out!!
-Trace Memory
I don't think Nintendo will ever go through all of their franchises on one single console. And if they ever do somehow use up all of their franchises on the Wii (or any future console), they can always make sequels to them or make a new IP.
disappeared
Banned
With the money Nintendo's made... fuck it, they're long gone.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
bmf said:
This year's fall conference made everyone pretty happy. I don't think anyone bitched about it.
its actually a very strange situation. we KNOW there are a ton of games in development, we just havent heard ANYTHING.
- NST game
- KUJU game/s
- Retro should have something to show soon
- Rumored Geist follow up game
- Factor 5 game
- Isnt sillicon knights supposed to be developing for wii as well?
and that is western developers
- Aouma team should have something ready to show soon
- HAL should have something ready for wii as well (Kirby?)
- Im sure later this year EAD Tokyo will be ready to show whatever they have been working on for over a year now.
so yeah, its pretty strange that NONE of this development studios have unveiled anything yet. But it only means nintendo is having a lot going on behind the scene.
I also think this perception has to do with two things:
a- core gamers get alarmed if a company doesnt release big hits in a VERY constant basis (hell, the first year and a half of wiis lifespan nintendo released 4 heavy hitters : Zelda -debatable-, mario, smash and mario kart).
b- nintendos new policy of announcing games close to release date, so we are going through a transition period, one releases catch up to the new policy things should be fine.
- NST game
- KUJU game/s
- Retro should have something to show soon
- Rumored Geist follow up game
- Factor 5 game
- Isnt sillicon knights supposed to be developing for wii as well?
and that is western developers
- Aouma team should have something ready to show soon
- HAL should have something ready for wii as well (Kirby?)
- Im sure later this year EAD Tokyo will be ready to show whatever they have been working on for over a year now.
so yeah, its pretty strange that NONE of this development studios have unveiled anything yet. But it only means nintendo is having a lot going on behind the scene.
I also think this perception has to do with two things:
a- core gamers get alarmed if a company doesnt release big hits in a VERY constant basis (hell, the first year and a half of wiis lifespan nintendo released 4 heavy hitters : Zelda -debatable-, mario, smash and mario kart).
b- nintendos new policy of announcing games close to release date, so we are going through a transition period, one releases catch up to the new policy things should be fine.
Maybe in the end it really doesn't matter because of Nintendo's "evergreen" philosophy, but releasing all three of the biggest Wii games of the year in back to back months this past spring seems like a bad idea now. There is zero positive buzz going for the system at the moment. I know they still can't keep the systems on the shelf, but I feel like they are starting to let their momentum slip with this fall's showing.
I have a friend at work who bought a Wii over the summer; she's a middle of the road gamer, not too hard core and not too casual. She's been asking me what are the great games out right now and I have nothing to tell her. I've been pointing her backwards to Mario Galaxy and Zelda.
Does Nintendo have some one (I don't know what the real title would be) like a Product Manager? Someone who is looking at the big picture of all their releases and helps slot the games in to the gaps? If they do, this person should be fired for letting this fall period go by with such a crappy showing.
This is the first time (ever!!) that I will not be buying a game for my home Nintendo system in the Christmas season. That's really sad.
I have a friend at work who bought a Wii over the summer; she's a middle of the road gamer, not too hard core and not too casual. She's been asking me what are the great games out right now and I have nothing to tell her. I've been pointing her backwards to Mario Galaxy and Zelda.
Does Nintendo have some one (I don't know what the real title would be) like a Product Manager? Someone who is looking at the big picture of all their releases and helps slot the games in to the gaps? If they do, this person should be fired for letting this fall period go by with such a crappy showing.
This is the first time (ever!!) that I will not be buying a game for my home Nintendo system in the Christmas season. That's really sad.