That living room needs a coffee table.
I think there is a fundamental lack of reading comprehension here. Microsoft isn't comfortable with XBL so they are solely banning access to XBL on these Xbox Ones that slipped out.
The account isn't impacted. The 360 isn't impacted. And as far as I can tell, he can still play single player games.
It's not unreasonable at all.
And yet so many folks are using this as an opportunity to pile on Microsoft and push their agendas, whether it relates to this situation or not.
My stereoscopic vision is working fine, it's bigger than the original ps3 and that was too big. My preference though.
nillapuddin*I don't actually get the "see the thing in person" comments. The thing is almost as big as a PS3 FAT, and there ain't nobody alive today that says the thing is at all small in form factor. It's massive.
I've seen it in person, they're on kiosks. It's still massive. It's just a bulky device. No harm in it, few people actually care if their videogame system is big.
Truth, I'm not sure what kind of delusional pills are being taken, but the xbone is huge. Sure it's smaller form factor relative to a full blown A/V receiver, but bulky is still bulky.
MS has been trying their damndest for the past 6 months to "build anticipation and guide the narrative" around the Xbox One. They basically threw a temper tantrum because "the media" and "entitled gamers" didn't allow them to pass this controlled PR message to consumers about "unlimited graphics via cloud computing"/"balanced hardware"/"no comment on indie games"/"DRM freedom is slavery"/"Kinect must be plugged in". The entire fiasco was ridiculous. The box is a physical thing, with power, price, and software quantifiable and comparable to other products on the market.
The entire attempt was derailed by their reversals. We know that most of their statements around E3 were sleazy PR. They did what they had to do to get their preorders up, and I suppose they should be congratulated for finally listening to their customers rather than defending "the message" to the grave. But with Albert's recent statements about not knowing resolutions of the biggest launch games (before resolutiongate), and the recent banning, you get the sense that MS is still fighting tooth and nail to maintain some pretense over the launch.
You can't hide what your product is and does in consumer electronics. Not in 2013. The world has changed since the release of the iPhone and the increase in tech enthusiast websites. When people buy a modern phone/tablet, they want to know the screen resolution, CPU clock speeds, battery life, benchmark scores, build materials, camera specs, operating system version, All of this information was known about the LG/Google Nexus 5 before it was even announced. MS' attempts to control the narrative about the One launch is taking a piss in the wind. When they say "we can increase graphics 10-fold with cloud computing" and anandtech writes a rebuttal "no, that's not true", everyone knows they are full of shit.
If LIVE sucks, if the dash crashes, if the One version of 3rd party games have severe graphic deficiencies...consumers are going to know. It's their right to know. The box is $500 after all. The absurdity of the banning here is that, from all outward appearances, the machine isn't the disaster that so many have predicted; the UI is solid, the interface is slick, the games look pretty damn good. Kinect even works, for the little content they have for it at launch. MS is pushing the same losing battle Nintendo did - if people don't know what your console does or what it's capable of, the response isn't intrigue, it's apathy. No one is dropping hundreds of dollars on a mystery box.
Banning until launch makes sense, especially when you don't want false reports of network stability, featureset, etc. going out before its actually consumer-ready, which is obviously kept until the latest time before launch.
From unofficial beta XBL its absolutly reasonable. His console isnt brickedBanning his console period is a fucking bullshit move by MS.
and he wakes up!!
This'll be a fun day.
I missed out on this thread Someone with a summary of the thread?
- Guy gets an Xbox One Friday evening, because Target fucked up
- He posts an unboxing video on YouTube
- People laugh, 'Console is useless without the day one patch!'
- He connects to Live and downloads the day one patch
- Posts a bunch of details on Twitter with highly positive reaction
- Couple folks on Twitter advise him not post any gameplay, he agrees to wait
- More folks on Twitter start tweeting that he has the console and is answering questions
- Couple media outlets pick up that he's spewing details
- Microsoft takes unboxing video down with a copyright strike, asking for proof of purhcase
- He responds to said email with proof of purchase
- People start tweeting to him how his was wronged
- Hours of people upset over unboxing video taken down
- Dude emails MS to see when/if the unboxing video can go back up
- More bitching from people about video being taken down
- Dude jokes he "might sue them lol"
- Around midnight his console gets banned from XBL, but not his account
- Dude contacts @Microsoft to explain, tweets @Microsoft several times with no response
- People get in an uproar over how he was wronged, they suggest to sue
- Dude stays calm, says he will go straight to MS
- People go back to being raged about the unboxing video being taken down
- Dude goes to sleep
- Major Nelson joins the GAF thread and says he's going to try to resolve it
- Dude wakes up, is currently talking to Larry about his ban
- GAF waits to see if his Youtube strike is lifted, or if envelope is left under the doormat
Well, there may be still a bit of confusion for some over the next few days. Is this still the message customers will see if they get an XBox One early and log in, informing them that they're not banned, they just can't use the online services until the 22nd?
If it is, I'd suggest coming up with something a little friendlier. Maybe toss in a rainbow or kittens or something.
I reached out to him and I'll get this sorted out. His console will not be permabanned that is for sure.
The father and son team has posted 2 more videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykAnPtMLkrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32LLkje2f60
The father and son team has posted 2 more videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykAnPtMLkrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32LLkje2f60
Nice of Major Nelson to take action and help the guy out.
Never should have happened and it's still BS that he can't play until then but whatever. At least he's not totally screwed.
Great, great post. I really hope that some Nintendo executives see this too, their continued disconnection from the realities of today's world is tiring to say the least.MS has been trying their damndest for the past 6 months to "build anticipation and guide the narrative" around the Xbox One. They basically threw a temper tantrum because "the media" and "entitled gamers" didn't allow them to pass this controlled PR message to consumers about "unlimited graphics via cloud computing"/"balanced hardware"/"no comment on indie games"/"DRM freedom is slavery"/"Kinect must be plugged in". The entire fiasco was ridiculous. The box is a physical thing, with power, price, and software quantifiable and comparable to other products on the market.
The entire attempt was derailed by their reversals. We know that most of their statements around E3 were sleazy PR. They did what they had to do to get their preorders up, and I suppose they should be congratulated for finally listening to their customers rather than defending "the message" to the grave. But with Albert's recent statements about not knowing resolutions of the biggest launch games (before resolutiongate), and the recent banning, you get the sense that MS is still fighting tooth and nail to maintain some pretense over the launch.
You can't hide what your product is and does in consumer electronics. Not in 2013. The world has changed since the release of the iPhone and the increase in tech enthusiast websites. When people buy a modern phone/tablet, they want to know the screen resolution, CPU clock speeds, battery life, benchmark scores, build materials, camera specs, operating system version, All of this information was known about the LG/Google Nexus 5 before it was even announced. MS' attempts to control the narrative about the One launch is taking a piss in the wind. When they say "we can increase graphics 10-fold with cloud computing" and anandtech writes a rebuttal "no, that's not true", everyone knows they are full of shit.
If LIVE sucks, if the dash crashes, if the One version of 3rd party games have severe graphic deficiencies...consumers are going to know. It's their right to know. The box is $500 after all. The absurdity of the banning here is that, from all outward appearances, the machine isn't the disaster that so many have predicted; the UI is solid, the interface is slick, the games look pretty damn good. Kinect even works, for the little content they have for it at launch. MS is pushing the same losing battle Nintendo did - if people don't know what your console does or what it's capable of, the response isn't intrigue, it's apathy. No one is dropping hundreds of dollars on a mystery box.
From unofficial beta XBL its absolutly reasonable. His console isnt bricked
Pretty sure he was referring to them taking his video down. He would have got a lot of views and potential ad revenue from that vid.
Offline mode: confirmed.
he can play, just not online.
Since they have their Kinect up, i wonder if MS and the NSA are watching them. After all its fishy they got their system already.............
Since they have their Kinect up, i wonder if MS and the NSA are watching them. After all its fishy they got their system already.............
Since they have their Kinect up, i wonder if MS and the NSA are watching them. After all its fishy they got their system already.............
True, but I doubt he's interested in a purely offline experience.
Still seems random, I've been gone a while but I assume the other people who got theirs early did not get banned, just this guy for making a Youtube video. Which is still complete BS.
It makes it even more messed up in my opinion. It's basically banning someone to keep them quiet about live as a precaution so that nothing negative can be said (if any can be).
Fuck this strawman bullshit. I'd say there are two extremely plausible scenarios:
1. MS knows exactly what accounts/X1s are supposed to be able to get on Xbox Live right now and they're temp-banning any who log in from unauthorized devices/accounts.
2. Target sent them the serial codes for the consoles that were shipped out and MS banned all those consoles until release.
Update 3: A Microsoft spokesperson tells Engadget that the Xbox One consoles some consumers received by accident well ahead of launch on November 22nd cannot access Xbox Live until closer to launch. The statement says: "Due to a retail partner's system issue, a very small number of Xbox One consoles were shipped to consumers before the November 22 street date. We're pleased to see the initial response to Xbox One has been so positive, but given we are still putting the finishing touches on our games, UI and online services, as well as confidential partner and media agreements, these consoles units will be restricted from connecting to Xbox Live until closer to our launch date."
Oh please. Target made a mistake.
A Microsoft spokesperson tells Engadget that the Xbox One consoles some consumers received by accident well ahead of launch on November 22nd cannot access Xbox Live until closer to launch. The statement says: "Due to a retail partner's system issue, a very small number of Xbox One consoles were shipped to consumers before the November 22 street date. We're pleased to see the initial response to Xbox One has been so positive, but given we are still putting the finishing touches on our games, UI and online services, as well as confidential partner and media agreements, these consoles units will be restricted from connecting to Xbox Live until closer to our launch date."
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/09/early-xbox-one-details/
even if he was allowed online, what could he do? Play with 5 people on cod ghosts?
The important thing is that he can use the console and the games.
And by looking the dad/son video, I'm starting to think that everybody who isnt whitelisted is going to get banned till 22nd.
Do carpets still kill consoles? I killed 2 playstations that way, or that's what I thought did em in.
Engadget has an update
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/09/early-xbox-one-details/
That sounds like hope for everyone who got banned but also spin. If this was the official response then there was no reason for Major Nelson to reach out to anyone and fix anything. Also how does this justify getting someone banned from Youtube or getting their video taken down by deceptive means (I don't have an update on his Youtube so I assume it's one of those things still)?