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So we got really crappy service and left NO tip
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Saintguine
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Stop importing your Nazi Communism to the glorious U S of A. Please report to your nearest Guantanamo Bay you freedom hating terrorist.
I honestly do not understand how a politician looked at $2.13 and said yup a person could live on this in America.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Nah. In the one instance I never tipped the waiter actually ruined my meal with his attitude and shitty service. He didn't deserve to be paid
Subpar Spatula
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$5 for a $50 meal seems fair if the staff do well. Why have percentages then? We're primarily tipping the wait staff so we may as well hand an extra $10 to them even if we order $4 fries. They're doing the same work as if they were handing you a $60 steak and lobster meal. It's too inconsistent for me so I find 10% to be a good amount.
Well I now know why some people get crappy service based on what some think is a good tip. Wowser.
A 10% tip, for excellent service on a $5 drink is .50. Do people keep quarters in their pocket and tip quarters to people and wink thinking they just did them good? Yikes.
A 10% tip, for excellent service on a $5 drink is .50. Do people keep quarters in their pocket and tip quarters to people and wink thinking they just did them good? Yikes.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
thankfully no waiter is actually living off of that and is stuck to the minimum wage threshold like other minimum wage workers right? if you hear of food staff making less, report it (class action if it's a big chain, it's happened before)
while that is true and i would agree it is ridiculous, i would press that it is far from the norm. the federal agencies that revolve around making sure food workers make at least minimum wage are fairly thorough. i'm sure cases slip through the cracks shamefully, though. sometimes it's easier not to risk your job and refuse to report something, but any upstanding establishment will make sure their workers are at least making minimum
What a terrible post. Cliches much, eh ?
I always tip 10% minimum, even when the service is shit because I know that waiters are paid peanuts, which is a shame. And between 15-20% when the service is good (and the service is usually very good in the US). What I feel uncomfortable with is when someone is forcing my hand. And it happens too many times. Why not wait until someone tips then maybe talk to him if you're not " happy " with the tip you got ? Instead of venting your frustration on customers, why not try and change the system and push owners to pay decent wages to their employees ? Like in most western european countries ?
And lol at foreigners having terrible accents and stuff like that. When foreigners visit the US, they speak the local language which is english and they try to do their best. When americans go to any other country in the world, guess what ? They speak english, not the local language, and it's the locals who have to make the effort to understand them. It's called double-standards. But again you represent a minority. People in the service industry in the US are very welcoming towards tourists. I've never heard someone complain about " accents ".
And fyi, I'm not french-canadian. You got half of it right though.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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If a server has a bad day that doesn't mean they're all of a sudden not making minimum wage for that pay period. It's not a minimum wage job. They deserve to get paid more than McDonalds employees, they plan on making more than minimum. But when you get a string of ignorant cheapskates all of a sudden the money isn't there.
0% is disgusting and you should feel ashamed unless the server insulted you or something absurd. 10% is bad service. If you have a problem with that then go to the grocery store instead, any good restaurant doesn't want you.
Saintguine
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The law is that the manager/owner of the restaurant has to make up for the wages if they don't get any tips but I've read stories of dodgy managers withholding that payment knowing that the waiter/waitress is in no financial position to argue it in court.
we were at the "desk" thingy or whatever where you walk in the door. the manager greeted us and I said "we'res gonna be a group of 9", as everyone else was still getting out of their cars/etc. a minute later, two of us were standing and she whizzed by going "move out of my way, i need to get to my table". how rude.
yes, this is not my first pizza hut experience lol.
entremet
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Yes. In the burbs.
I do have soft spot for their ultra greasy pizzas.
In metro areas they're usually paired with Taco Bells and are more fast food style, no wait staff, etc.
way more
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A "lifer" server I knew said what he does when he gets service that is so atrocious it deserves no tip is he takes out his phone calculator and determines down to the penny what 10% is. Then he leaves that and writes on the check, "Exactly 10%, I don't have the heart to tip less even though you deserve it."
It's a sick burn that leaves you feeling both in the right and vindicated.
It's a sick burn that leaves you feeling both in the right and vindicated.
CaptainGyro
Banned
Yeah I have never had anything like that happen to me
GameAddict411
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You're putting words in my mouth, I never said i looked down on her. I meant I was not ashamed of not tipping.
t-storm
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Wow. Really?
Likewise, very easy to flip it around and say if you have a problem with it then get a better paying job.
Got shitty service yesterday too. Ordered water while waiting for people to arrive, they assume I mean some ridiculous imported bottled water... ordered an entre, they said "I'll get 4 of those, one won't be enough." And when it was time to pay, they had the machine on the screen where you type in a tip, in a country where there's no tipping culture at all, and at a point in the transaction where every instinct would tell you to punch in a 4 digit pin code. Oh thanks for the $9000 tip. Every single interaction with the waitress (who I assume was the owner or manager) was awkward and involved them trying to rip us off.
LyleLanley
Banned
I imagine almost 100% of people would choose to get a better paying job if they could.
So you are going to go to a restaurant and tell everyone to get a better paying job, LOL!
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I pay with cards 99% of the time so the debit/credit machines have a % option.
Bobby Roberts
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LyleLanley
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TheDrizzlerJ11
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Good man.
If a server brings up that the tip is low, and the customer gets upset. The server is going to get fired usually. Complaining about a tip to the customer is extremely taboo unless it's 0% or something stupid. But if a Canadiens leaves 10% and compliments me I just can't help but wish I gratted him. Talking about it beforehand can also be taken as an insult by the customer. You're underestimating how difficult the job is I promise.
Change the system? This made me giggle. Do you think servers have a union or something? They'd get fired/never hired if they don't want to work in the current system.
I just was trying to relay how frustrating the job can be at times. It's a fast paced job and repeating and explaining every little thing to a foreigner, or an elderly person, can be frustrating and fuck you up, wether you show it to the customer or not. Bad days happen. It's just the nature of it. People who leave 0% usually have terrible perspective. Trying to get them to see things from the servers shoes.
Bobby Roberts
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Does your city/town not have a legitimate pizza place to visit?
Trojita
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I worked at a Pizza Hut while in high school. You really should not eat that food. To prep the dough they squirt a bunch of oil in a pan and set it in a warmer so the grease soaks into it. The meats are so incredibly greasy that if they thaw at all before being cooked they morph into a paste-like substance.
I've seen their nutritional info and it is a lie. There is probably 1,000 calories in a single slice of meat lovers.
And to answer some questions I see being asked: I cooked and waited tables, and Pizza Hut does have a gratuity charge for large parties. It's printed on the bill and menu. The wait staff at PH's are typically terrible and don't care, because it's large party after large party full of messy children and people actually fussy about fast food pizza.
outunderthestars
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I seriously doubt this since I've lived with like four servers throughout my four years of undergrad that worked at several different places and they each made significantly more than minimum wage once tips were set in. Oftentimes making roughly $13-$17 per hour, and on rare occasions actually hitting that $20 per hour mark.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Good, you shouldn't. A tip is given when someone does their job well, it shouldn't be assumed.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Not at all. Tip is a part of the fee for eating out. If you don't want to pay it don't eat out. A good tip is extra, a bad tip is mandatory.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Pizza hut has restaurants with booths, tables, servers, cooks, hostesses, etc. They also do delivery. Your string of questions is weird. It's as if his choice of eatery matters.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Did they have the table top arcade with pac-man and galaga?
FunkyMunkey
Banned
same
Zen_Arcade
Banned
No it's not. Unless it's factored into the bill. If it were it wouldn't be optional in the first place.
"As it stands, only seven states require employers to pay tipped workers the same minimum wage as nontipped workers. The federal minimum wage for the latter is $7.25, but the federal minimum wage for tipped workers has remained stagnate at $2.13 since 1991, with no adjustment for inflation. Employers are supposed to make up the difference if tipped workers aren't earning the regular minimum wage through their tips, but it doesn't always happen. The Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning think tank, found in 2011 that tipped workers are more than twice as likely as other workers to fall under the federal poverty line."
At $2.13 an hour, guess what you pay taxes! Not much left if you don't get tips all you folks say is optional.
At $2.13 an hour, guess what you pay taxes! Not much left if you don't get tips all you folks say is optional.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'm talking to the guy about his decision to visit a Pizza Hut with 8 other grown adults as opposed to going to an actual restaurant, or a bar.
Your opinions about my conversation with the guy should be directed to my Yelp page.
Wreck-It Ralph
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Walk up to the next overweight person you see and tell them, "You're fat!" They probably won't be super thrilled about it.
Alternate answer: Imagine how fast the OP would've been banned if he'd said she was a "black bitch" instead. After all, being black isn't a bad thing, right? But the way it's phrased, sticking it next to "bitch" like that, implies that it's meant to be an insult.
Please note that I'm not saying being fat is comparable to being black, I'm just using this as an example to illustrate how a word that's not inherently bad can gain a negative connotation when paired up with another word that is an insult.
Subpar Spatula
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Majority of servers are not making that. Probably still making minimum even with tips. The old lady serving pancakes at iHop isn't making bank. Neither are most waitresses at dive bars. If your place is popular or has a continuous customer base then the staff will be compensated much better than restaurant you generally see 1 customer in when you drive by.
Nothing wrong with eating at pizza hut. Sounds more elitist than anything. May as well say grown men shouldn't drink slushies or eat candy.
Zen_Arcade
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Why do you give a shit about where OP and his friends eat?
there is mandatory and then there is "no one has ever challenged us on this before, we don't know what to do." sure they can say the tipping is required, but no, really it isn't. Otherwise it isn't a "tip". If they really want to fight over it, they will probably lose when you stop payment or give cash only.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Why wouldn't I? It's the part of this story that piques my curiosity more than anything else. It's the most unique aspect of it, honestly. So I'm asking questions about it. It's more interesting to me than indulging in a debate about tipping, or whether or not he was being a dick by referring to the waitress as "fat and bitchy."
The choice of restaurant is even more curious considering the guy used to prepare food for others as a vocation. Not to say someone who's ever worked as a line cook can't hang out at a chain restaurant for the food or anything. But it's still interesting to me. So I'm asking him.
My earlier post, the truth is actually the opposite - in 2011 that tipped workers are more than twice as likely as other workers to fall under the federal poverty line.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Right. And you don't need to tip the vallet guy, or your bellboy, it's all optional when you're an inconsiderate...
Alright I'm done here, there's a reason I don't post in tipping threads.
half a moon
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I never heard of such
way more
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lol. I'm not sure why I added that calculator part.
I think if they have it clearly written on each page of the menu it would constitute a contract of sorts.
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