OpinionatedCyborg
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So what was the deal with Micheal Jackson turning white?
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UnemployedVillain
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The constant plastic surgery was more his dad being a piece of shit and basically telling him "Your nose is too big", "Your hair is too nappy" and other self esteem destroying shit on a regular basis when growing up
Yep, I feel like he he would have bleached his skin either way but everything else that he did to himself was directly caused by his shitstain of a father.
Seriously
Pepsi have a lot to answer for. That incident also started his addiction to painkillers.
Quincy Jones: Michael Jackson "Didn't Want to Be Black"
and the kicker:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/quincy-jones-michael-jackson-didnt-want-to-be-black-200927
His daughter is also dating a white supremacist now. Really makes you question what kind of father he was, and how internalized self hate can infect those around you. In the end Michael wasn't hurting anybody by not liking being dark skinned until he bought(couldnt even risk passing on his own "negro" genes) a new generation with which to past his views on.
and the kicker:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/quincy-jones-michael-jackson-didnt-want-to-be-black-200927
His daughter is also dating a white supremacist now. Really makes you question what kind of father he was, and how internalized self hate can infect those around you. In the end Michael wasn't hurting anybody by not liking being dark skinned until he bought(couldnt even risk passing on his own "negro" genes) a new generation with which to past his views on.
He had vitiligo but he also had issues with his image and identity, he got a nose job because he wanted a thinner and white looking nose. He tried his darndest to get rid of this curly Afro hair, the skin bleaching and then the fact he specifically only chose white women as surrogates for his kids. For a lot of non white artists, the pressure to be or look white and to be accepted is real.
HawksWinStanley
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Which is weird because he was a pretty good looking dude before the ridiculous surgeries.
His childhood had to be even tougher than the stories/rumors you'd hear. His dad was apparently quite the piece of shit.
Chuck Norris
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Can't believe it's been 7 years since he died. Feels like just yesterday
This. For a while he covered up white spots with darker make up, but when white spots were the majority of his skin he covered up he darker areas with white makeup.
Plastic surgeries were from insecurities. Some people take it personally like he was insulting the African American community, but it was his self confidence issues that caused most his problems, including the drug use.
EatinOlives
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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I had a black friend with it in school, can confirm, she was fuckin' tired of the questions and pointing. Examples of vitiligo:
it progresses randomly too, so one day she woke up with a pale arm.
they look kinda awesome.
Pepsi isn't the cause of all of Michael's issues. He already had the insecurities before then and combined with his fame he would've succombed to drugs eventually.
I have seen pretty much everything MJ related and have never come across anything like this.
Maybe he's thinking about the Southpark episode where he's playing "Got your nose" with his kid, who then actually pulls his nose off.
GoutPatrol
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Hard to take him seriously when he's talking about people's star signs.
uhh.. whoa.
stump sock
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whaaaaaat
That's a bit of a hyperbole no?
R10Neymarfan
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He also married a white woman so he really had no place to be uppity about someone's blackness
They do! Second woman almost looks like she's wearing warpaint. It's kinda bad ass.
RockTurtle
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how does marrying a white woman affect someone's blackness?
RiccochetJ
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I agree, but I can't imagine it being that much fun in Jr High or High School.
Hmmmmm....
Should I let my dad know he's not really black because he married my mom, a white women?
Redact redact redact
He should have left the kids out of it. I won't put too much credit in some mean spirited gossip from Quincy Jones sourced from Us Weekly and Details Magazine.
Patrick S.
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Please tell that to my wife.
She has vitiligo, most visibly on her hands, elbows, and around her eyes. She is so ashamed by it, she doesn't even want her parents to see her without facial makeup, and the first thing she does every morning is put makeup on so no one may see her white eyepatches. She would never in a million years leave the house without makeup. She is afraid of people being disgusted by her in job interviews, or any kind of social situation, really. I've told her she is beautiful the way she is a billion times, and that nobody will judge her because of her "flaw", but sadly I can't convince her
I see this thread has irrevocably taken a turn
ZombiePlatypus
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I lived in the Middle East at the time, and while his music was easy enough to find, I don't really remember anything covering his appearance, reasons, and how it was perceived in the States. I was also much younger at the time though, and there weren't things like blogs, etc.
off topic but look at what Lil Kim did to herself
This is how she looked like before
Doesn't really look bad, but she looks unrecognizable.
Electric Eye
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Not really problems but because you loose your pigmentation u are more prone to get skin cancer if you don't use proper sunblock and cover yourself more than the average person. I know someone personally that has had vitiligo their entire life to the point were they got about 80% depigmented at which point they got an ok and a prescription for monobenzone 20 cream which will be used to complete the depigmantation. What MJ did and so is this person isn't skin whitening monobenzone 20 cream does lighten your skin but if used for long period of time it eventually completely destroys the pigmentation so your skin is evenly depigmented thoughout. Is completely legal and is the final stage of vitiligo when treatments to grow back pigmentation have failed.
Kind of crazy how someone as big as MJ is apparently unlucky as fuck.
Had a piece of shit father
Fucked his nose up and had to get surgery on it, didn't like the results therefore he didn't stop
Hair caught on fire while shooting a Pepsi commercial. Had to get skin graphs and shit to fix it.
Had vitiligo and decided to bleach his skin
Had lupus
Some don't believe in all the above except for what has indeed been proven or is known as fact. But man, very rare you see a celeb go through so many radical changes appearance wise.
Had a piece of shit father
Fucked his nose up and had to get surgery on it, didn't like the results therefore he didn't stop
Hair caught on fire while shooting a Pepsi commercial. Had to get skin graphs and shit to fix it.
Had vitiligo and decided to bleach his skin
Had lupus
Some don't believe in all the above except for what has indeed been proven or is known as fact. But man, very rare you see a celeb go through so many radical changes appearance wise.
Lol does that somehow make him no longer able to speak on black matters?
TsunamiOfSwagger
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I remember watching something after MJ died, and his family were walking around talking to his fans.
A camera crew spoke with his father, and IIRC the conversation about MJ and his legacy got sidetracked when he got one of his friends to talk about his new record label and what was going on with that.
Just summed up the man. Couldn't miss an opportunity to promote his new venture.
Actually he's said in interviews that he was proud to be a black man and he even mentioned he didn't want a white actor portraying him
His dad would call him ugly so he developed issues around that and he didn't like his nose.
He had vitiligo and he bleached his skin to "even" it out. But I really feel that like with the plastic surgeries, he got out of control with the bleaching and over did it. I definitely don't think it was his plan all along to be white
Psychological Intellect
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man the transformation was so surreal. By the end dude didn't look human. who knows why
Discussions like this always make me think of that Ebony article from 1985.
damn that pic really does look just like his abusive psycho dad.
might have just hit a vulnerable person at the worst possible time to send him off into the deep.
Discussions like this always make me think of that Ebony article from 1985.
Would, hard,
Cow Mengde
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Discussions like this always make me think of that Ebony article from 1985.
I think he kinda looks like Lando in this picture. I don't know what his dad looks like, at least not when he was younger.
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