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So what's the Final word on Rogue Galaxy?
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Red Blaster
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I think it's bullshit that Atlus is delaying P3 all the way to June and is not giving us the extra features.
Hairyiguana
Member
dillenger said:
I wish they could condense it to about 2.5-3.5 hours and leave out the crappy gameplay, then I would probably watch it.
GreenNight
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If you had to choose between Rogue Galaxy and Tales of the Abyss, which one would it be?
DarknessTear
Banned
GreenNight said:
Both
TotA is amazing, RG hasn't proven itself to me yet since it's not out in the US at the moment.
DarknessTear said:Both
TotA is amazing, RG hasn't proven itself to me yet since it's not out in the US at the moment.
Totally agreed here. I had to slog through something like 14 hours of Abyss, but once the big plot point happened, it completely changed how I felt about the characters and the story got amazing. Plus, the battle system kicks ass and it's just a really cool world.
I'm about that far into Rogue Galaxy (give or take; I still haven't had time to play more because of all these industry events and stuff on my plate), and it has yet to really hook me, but I'm definitely being baited along by hints of a cool storyline and the combat is really quite nice.
Once I beat RG, I'll be able to make a better recommendation, but I really do thing both are worth getting for their own reasons. I know that doesn't really answer the original question, but hey, if nothing else, you've got two guys that recommend both games.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
So far I'm liking it a great deal. If you're a big RPG person, and like Dark Cloud/Tales/Star Ocean, I'd say that you'll enjoy it.
...granted, I'm only about 4 hours in at the moment, so that opinion might change here in a week or so =P
...granted, I'm only about 4 hours in at the moment, so that opinion might change here in a week or so =P
Playing English RG now, and am enjoying it more than I expected to after my experience with the Japanese version.
They did update the combat somewhat, and it does help break up the monotony a little - the boring "combo attack" system from the Japanese version has been completely redone. Your meter charges with little chips you pick up now, and the combos themselves are like mini QTEs and are visually interesting. Every character has three version of these.
The story is still poor, but the localization is good. That said, I'm having fun doing all the endless RPG-y things you do in the game, like get drops and whatnot.
They did update the combat somewhat, and it does help break up the monotony a little - the boring "combo attack" system from the Japanese version has been completely redone. Your meter charges with little chips you pick up now, and the combos themselves are like mini QTEs and are visually interesting. Every character has three version of these.
The story is still poor, but the localization is good. That said, I'm having fun doing all the endless RPG-y things you do in the game, like get drops and whatnot.
Grimm Fandango
Member
Meh, I don't know. I saw that Game Trailers thing but it didn't seem interesting to me. Maybe I'll wait for more impressions and reviews. I'm still playing my PS2 a lot so no pressure.
Mana Knight
Banned
I'm very impressed with the demo to Rogue Galaxy, so I'm definitely going to buy it (not sure about release though, since Ar Tonelico comes out too).
One thing that surprised me was that I thought the battles would be like Dark Cloud 2, with enemies just standing around and I attack them (along with my party members). The battles being completely random, and getting into a battle sequence (somewhat like Star Ocean) was a big surprise, but one I liked.
One thing that surprised me was that I thought the battles would be like Dark Cloud 2, with enemies just standing around and I attack them (along with my party members). The battles being completely random, and getting into a battle sequence (somewhat like Star Ocean) was a big surprise, but one I liked.
nakedsushi
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duckroll said:
Never played the JP version, so I wouldn't be able to say if it improved or not. I did notice it the rooms and hallways there became a little too much cut-and-paste over and over again, if that makes sense. Maybe I'm not playing the game right, but
it seems like the save points were placed too far apart in the prison dungeon compared to the areas before it. The rooms and hallways were looking kind of generic, but it wasn't bad enough where I would get lost, thanks to the minimap.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
People playing the NA version:
How the fuuuuuuUUuuUuuck do I get to the second boss in the Gradius Towers?
Lost Fragment said:
It's a huge pain. Basically,
you can see all the parts you can't get to in the second tower? If you went off-track at the same point I did, you need to go back to the 2nd tower, fifth floor, on the eastern side, and head south. From there, it's pretty linear. If that doesn't solve it for you, let me know -- the Gradius Towers had me gnashing teeth.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
deadairis said:
Nope. I can get up to
the seventh floor of the 1st tower, but the only path I can decipher from there is the one that leads to the boss chamber in the 2nd tower. I can see all these unexplored paths on the lower left of the map, but I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to get to them.
If anime-levels of localization is your idea of good.Ravidrath said:
There's some really stilted language in the game. One character screams "What a waste of effort!" at you when you fail an attack. They also constantly refer to the spawning monsters as "beasts" -- even if they're robots.
I'd call the localization is barely passable. I guess it helps that the story isn't "serious."
deadairis said:
Sure.
But in real life do you always use the same noun to describe a wide variety of things? It's like the word "humans." Just because it describes everyone on the planet that doesn't mean you'd use the word every time you were referring to one.
It's just lazy that every time the opportunity comes up they use the term "beasts." Why not "those horrible things" or "that creature?"
Because the localization kinda sucks.
Flynn said:
Those aren't really localization issues, but original game issues. In the first case I guess they could've written a new line instead of translating it, assuming the exact context was in the text files Sony passed along to the translators.
In the second, the original Japanese calls all things you fight with that one noun, and so it was translated that way - they could've called them robots in some cutscenes, I guess, but then the characters would still call them beasts in-game, etc. Probably better to just keep it consistent, I think.
Ravidrath said:
It's absolutely everything to do with the localization and the new voice over. Who cares what the original Japanese called things? SCEA payed people to write new dialog in both text and voice over. I know there are limitations when it comes to mouth flap and everything, but c'mon. They couldn't come up with one one-syllable synonym for beasts to mix things up a bit?
I know it sounds nit-picky, but this is just one example of what in my opinion is a mediocre job of translation, localization, voice acting or what-have-you.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Ponn01 said:
I got that too in all its coolness. The only thing that bugged me about the demo was the camera. Instead of letting you see the person you select as the player, the camera sits too far behind you and forces you to look at the two people's backsides of whom you did not select. Unlike FFXII which lets you easily see the player you are controlling.
FateBreaker
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Too good.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I'm in ur GAF, pimping my reviewz.
http://rpgland.com/games/roguegalaxy/review.html
Seems like I'm gonna get some disagreements, judging from other people's opinions in this thread. It really didn't capture me that much. The character designs are pretty, and the battle system is pretty fun and it doesn't get old too quickly, but some of the novelty wore off after a while.
We use a "true" 10-point scale, btw, so 6.5 is a good score.
http://rpgland.com/games/roguegalaxy/review.html
Seems like I'm gonna get some disagreements, judging from other people's opinions in this thread. It really didn't capture me that much. The character designs are pretty, and the battle system is pretty fun and it doesn't get old too quickly, but some of the novelty wore off after a while.
We use a "true" 10-point scale, btw, so 6.5 is a good score.
Avalon said:
Exactly -- and, once you've torn through it, the idea is that all of those things come from the same source. Whether they're a robot or an animal or a weird flower -- they're all "beasts." It's a one word version of
victim of a weird mutagen-thing
Gale
I can see it being a choice that rubs people the wrong way because its so unintuitive, but its correct.
Yep. It is correct. We considered changing it early on, but in the end, for a variety of reasons, we realized the best choice was to keep it as beasts.deadairis said:
There's a -lot- more to localization than some people here seem to think. Love to hear comments like these, even if I can't always respond to each point directly.
