If it's releasing late next year I'd assume the entire console specs, design, etc are already set in stone. Give or take a few minor changes.
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So when will Nintendo reveal it's next hardware ? console, NX ?
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If it's releasing late next year I'd assume the entire console specs, design, etc are already set in stone. Give or take a few minor changes.
that isn't the point. when you think video games and 'x' your mind goes to xbox. if nintendo starts promoting for nx (which is probably more accurately n-cross anyway), then it runs the risk of people looking for the new games on xbox with mario or zelda. i think this is the same thing that happened with the gamecube. nintendo would do better to have a separate line of branding like wii or amiibo, which are fairly successful.
maybe they can go with dolphin.
It's an image thing. Aside from the usual spectacle and the crowd reactions, getting up on stage to announce your next big product says "hey, this is a big deal". Live stage shows command the attention of the general gaming public (and to a lesser extent the casual audience) in a way that Directs likely never will. Believe it or not, there are plenty of less informed gamers out there that think Nintendo has given up due to their lack of major stage presence over the past couple years.
I like Nintendo enough to speculate on their future platforms in countless threads on this board, yet I had zero interest in the NWCs. The only Direct I watched this year was the Digital Event, mostly because it was part of the E3 schedule. If someone like me doesn't bother watching these digital presentations, then how likely is it that your average mainstream game consumer will care? These guys aren't gonna tune in to the NWCs to watch a crowd getting hype over NX.
As for how Nintendo operates these days, I think that their current position in the market is questionable enough that they should consider taking a step back and re-think their way of doing things. They've been using this Direct-only approach for close to three years, and there's very little evidence that it has been successful at bringing in consumers that aren't already invested in the Nintendo brand.
Ipsoclipso
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I-NES (1985) II-GB (1989)
III-SNES (1991)
IV-N64 (1996) V-GBA (2001)
VI-GCN (2001) VII-DS (2004)
VIII-Wii (2006) IX-3DS (2011)
X-Wii U (2012)
XI-NX? (2016?)
What if Nintendo named their new device: (xi) as in Nintendo Eleven?
if the rumor about it being both a console and a portable are true, then the name will be even more perfect.
III-SNES (1991)
IV-N64 (1996) V-GBA (2001)
VI-GCN (2001) VII-DS (2004)
VIII-Wii (2006) IX-3DS (2011)
X-Wii U (2012)
XI-NX? (2016?)
What if Nintendo named their new device: (xi) as in Nintendo Eleven?
if the rumor about it being both a console and a portable are true, then the name will be even more perfect.
I'm not serious
Agent Gibbs
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Direct early in the year (or maybe Christmas this year to hype build) More info at E3 with the direct revealing it launches a month after E3 to capitalise on the hype of E3
E3 2016 announcement, release winter 2016.
Both console and handled. They need a big awareness push, especially toward the vanguard gamer community, which is more biased toward home-consoles in the west.
The games will make or break them. I'll be especially watchful of what IPs and genres they will put forward the most.
Both console and handled. They need a big awareness push, especially toward the vanguard gamer community, which is more biased toward home-consoles in the west.
The games will make or break them. I'll be especially watchful of what IPs and genres they will put forward the most.
The 1st console era consists of tons of Pong-like consoles, and Nintendo had a few entries in there.
"Japan's most successful console of the first generation was Nintendo's Color TV Game, released in 1977.[4] The Color TV Game sold 3 million units,[5] the highest for a first generation console."
(Although they seem to count sales of all of the Color TV Game variants together).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(first_generation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_TV-Game
Also, you're missing Virtual Boy
I don't understand your listing, GBA is clearly a portable SNES and so forth.
Also the naming thing always come back. Wii was supposed to be the "Go" at one point who meant five in japanese.
They never named their console in a straight way after numbers, like sony. It makes no sense to start now at 11.
Well in any event, I have no faith whatsoever in their ability to pick a decent name.
TanookiTom
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Home Console reveal at E3 2016, Releasing November 2016.
Their next handheld (part of the "NX platform", no hybrid, "attachment" or anything like that) releasing in Spring 2017.
I would have said that they're gonna do a Direct presentation for E3 again and just showing off the system in detail during Treehouse etc. But now that Iwata has passed. Who knows what's gonna happen to Directs?
I really can't see them releasing a home console and handheld at the same time, as this would badly hurt sales. Not sure why people believe this would make sense.
And Nintendo clearly said on several instances that we are not gonna get a "hybrid" system this time round, but rather a common platform, citing iOS as an example.
Their next handheld (part of the "NX platform", no hybrid, "attachment" or anything like that) releasing in Spring 2017.
I would have said that they're gonna do a Direct presentation for E3 again and just showing off the system in detail during Treehouse etc. But now that Iwata has passed. Who knows what's gonna happen to Directs?
I really can't see them releasing a home console and handheld at the same time, as this would badly hurt sales. Not sure why people believe this would make sense.
And Nintendo clearly said on several instances that we are not gonna get a "hybrid" system this time round, but rather a common platform, citing iOS as an example.
Even before, the implication was next year would have a traditional press conference.
The Nintendo Meh.
I've got to admit before E3 i was so sure that the next console wasn't coming out until 2017 with the handheld releasing in 2016 but with the whole were not going to talk about the games coming in 2016 or zelda it just makes me think that a lot of the 2016 games are getting ported to Nintendo's new next gen hardware.
TanookiTom
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Really? do you have a source for that?
"New next gen" - haha, I love it! This would be totally in line with Nintendo's "New" thing ;-)
In Japan, sure. But in America, the console is probably gonna be the first out of the gate (if we don't get both at the same time).
This post might have made some sense if e3 2014 didn't happen and if splatoon wasn't a success.
Personally I'm kinda tired of blatant audience plants and awkward exposition with mostly faked demoes running on PC hardware (presented as otherwise). But that's just me.
Wii U sales only increased a little in the second half of 2014, and that was mainly due to Mario Kart 8 and Smash being available. Outside of Japan, Splatoon did not contribute to a significant uptick in sales, which means that it was a success among the already established Nintendo fanbase.
These digital presentations are just not that effective in reaching an audience that isn't already invested in the Nintendo brand.
Father_Brain
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But NX OS would obviously exist to serve Nintendo's ends as a software publisher to a much, much greater extent than, say, Android exists to serve Google's software ends, and that would seem to inherently limit its versatility and appeal. Why would anyone but Nintendo want to adopt it as the basis for their hardware?
Unless, of course, NX is successful as currently conceived, in which case there's no real incentive for them to shift away from the dedicated hardware model anyway.
I will agree with your other point, which is that a post-hardware Nintendo would not necessarily look much like a conventional third-party publisher of games for dedicated devices. What it'd look like instead, I'm not sure, though.
I doubt they'll reveal the console and handheld together. They don't want to run the risk of any confusion with people thinking it's all part of the one system or something.
I also don't think they'll wait until e3 to announce it. April/May direct will give a quick overview, while e3 will show off the big games for it that are in the works.
I also don't think they'll wait until e3 to announce it. April/May direct will give a quick overview, while e3 will show off the big games for it that are in the works.
Well I think that even in japan there would be reason to have a nintendo box with some stragglers who don't want to shift over to mobile or whatever else might take over the dedicated space. In that sense, an very niche nintendo box might still exist, but the nx 'platform' itself would be available on other devices too - especially pc, but with the option for other hardware manufacturers to also develop their own hardware.
My uncle at Ninty says E3, though.
Exterminieren
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I'd be absolutely astonished if they were revealed separately, if the concept is anything like what we expect. The sharing of the libraries is going to be something they'll trumpet from the start.
They didn't reveal Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U separately, after all, and I see that software being something of a harbinger for the future.
Dr. Buni
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I am not really following NX discussions, but is there any evidence supporting the shared libraries thing? Because I absolutely adore the idea.
Fantastic news. I should start saving money for the NX then.
The recent patent did mention software that can be played on multiple variants of the platform.
RealityPales
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They'll have a press event like Sony and Microsoft did. Avoid E3 at all costs.
Or a glorified Direct. And do you mean avoid an E3 reveal or avoid E3 period?
perfectchaos007
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I think Nintendo still thinks they can salvage Wii U, or at least break even with it.
E3 2016 reveal. Holiday 2017 launch. That way the Wii U will make its 5 year minimum cycle
E3 2016 reveal. Holiday 2017 launch. That way the Wii U will make its 5 year minimum cycle
I used to think that the NX Platform would wait until 2017, but too much has come out to suggest otherwise. Both the Wii U & the 3DS are on their last legs & need successors.
evilromero
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So are more people warming up to the idea of a late 2016 launch?
perfectchaos007
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So did the Wii in it's final 2 years, but Nintendo did nothing. You think they learned from their mistakes?
evilromero
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Where is it written that a console needs to meet a 5 year life span? It's a silly assumption to make because if it's just not selling well or generating enough revenue, then why keep it on the market?
I feel like the group of people who would be looking for mario on xbox and the group of people who follow nintendo's latest are two very different, totally separate groups of people.
perfectchaos007
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You mean dolphiin.
I really don't believe WiiU will have life beyond Holiday 2016 which is when I expect NX to arrive in stores. WiiU is probably going to end up with roughly half the sales / install base of GameCube which sold 22 million worldwide in its lifespan, worldwide.
Currently WiiU has sold about 10 million, I'd be shocked if it goes past 12M. Nintendo 64 lasted 5 years, sold nearly 33 million worldwide and GameCube got 5 years also, but they both sold a lot better than WiiU.
Currently WiiU has sold about 10 million, I'd be shocked if it goes past 12M. Nintendo 64 lasted 5 years, sold nearly 33 million worldwide and GameCube got 5 years also, but they both sold a lot better than WiiU.
the people who follow nintendo's latest would buy the platform even if it was called something like wii u. but if nintendo says buy wii u and someone buys a wii instead, that's not screwing themselves as badly as someone gets an xbox when someone thinks they're getting an nx.
Nostremitus
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So, go with the code name(and subsequent emulator) for the GameCube? How is that not just as bad?
Father_Brain
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I'm not seeing how that answers the question, though - which manufacturers of "other devices" would want to adopt the NX platform and why? What would be in it for them?
And how/why would the NX platform come to PC - an emulator like for Android? That sorta makes sense for Android because the platform is already so successful and ubiquitous, but if NX fails as a (set of) dedicated device(s), that seems like a clumsy, inefficient workaround just to avoid developing software that runs natively on hardware they have no control over... which they're already doing with their mobile efforts, so I don't see that as a bridge Nintendo would be unwilling to cross in that scenario.
The entire point of the NX platform is to merge Nintendo's console and handheld ecosystems into one. Announcing the NX console and handheld separately would make very little sense.
At least XBoxOne gets more sales if anyone actually confuse NX with XBox..
back in 2000 people had really gotten attached to 'dolphin' as the name for gamecube and were pretty unimpressed when the console's final name was revealed.
it would potentially be another feather in their cap when promoting their devices. it of course assumes that mario is still popular in 2022 like it is in 2015. there's amazon prime, hulu, and netflix. i think there will be xbox live, nx, steam, and playstation now at some point in the future.
Nostremitus
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Today, though, I'd say that Dolphin has become synonymous with emulation and/or piracy. I highly doubt they want to touch that.
Dr. Buni
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It doesn't "need" to, but it should last at least 5 years. Ideally 6~7 IMO.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Nobody knows it relates to piracy. Even im scratching my head at that regardless of Anihawk being facetious.
Nostremitus
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So, if someone were to illegally download a Wii or Gamecube game and wanted to play it without a hacked console... how would they play it?
That's how it relates to piracy. Just because it wasn't meant to be used to play pirated games doesn't stop the people who use it for that purpose. Just look at Xenoblade's sales numbers versus the number of people who claim to have played it. You aren't seriously denying the connection are you?
Not everyone using Dolphin hacked their Wiis to rip their games like we do. I doubt if most Dolphin users even know what WBFS Manager is.
Same with the Revolution.