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[James Sawyer Ford]

The conference didn't contain much substance at all.

I guess they wanted to wait and show off next-gen CoD?

I can't think of any other reason why this couldn't have been done earlier in the year. That, or the Xbox One project is extremely down to the wire and behind schedule.

 

[Byronic Hero]

They wanted to get the console reveal out of the way so they could show a bunch of games at E3?

Spoiler

lol

 

[Oshimai]

They probably weren't prepared and would have shown even less if they went earlier.

 

[Birathen]

The fish AI was still being finetuned.

 

[-GOUKI-]

Please be excited

 

[-COOLIO-]

could have been to finalize the physical box.

 

[Tashi]

I don't think this is late really. It just might feel that way because Sony went early.

 

[BobTheFork]

The dog AI was still being finetuned.

Fixed.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

They fucked up because they only talked about TV crap when it's freaking 2013 and most of us use Netflix/Hulu/youtube now.

EA showed a trailer about crap no one cares about, Activision showed CoD: Ghosts and talked about a fucking dog for 5 minutes.

Then it got worse for them after we got to know about the "fee" and how it needs connection reguarly, they basically fucked up in the worst way possible for the people that are watching, the core. Keeping Live was the icing for the cake.


I'd ask what they did right, and the answer is NOTHING

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Didn't you hear? They're 6 months behind production. Showing that console and controller takes time, yo.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Looking at what they actually showed, I don't think they where ready. The schizophrenic nature of the whole presentation and PR just makes it seem like everything is still in flux.

 

[Papercuts]

They probably didn't expect Sony when they did theirs, and wanted to get it out of the way for E3.

 

[Tagg9]

They were likely working on finalizing the UI and the corresponding OS functionality.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Imagine if they'd revealed it only a month of after the PS4 reveal.

Just imagine how much worse they'd look by immediate comparison.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

They probably didn't expect Sony when they did theirs, and wanted to get it out of the way for E3.

Kaz confused them all around by saying they're waiting on Microsoft to reveal their console first. He meant the box, not the announcement.

 

[jackrubyn]

What about the AI system that made the fish swim away when you got close in COD: Ghosts? That had to take time to implement.

 

[Crimsonlink]

lol If Xbox One went first and then Sony afterwards with PS4....

Well lets just say there would be more buzz for PS4 after the reveal if the reveal went as they did for both consoles.

 

[VanCityGamer]

I think there could be a couple of factors. One, they wanted to have their console design and Kinect functionality completed and ready to show off - this might not have been occurred until recently. Two, they wanted to wait until closer to E3 so that they could continue building momentum just 3 weeks later rather than months later like in Sony's case.

 

[Steroyd]

Imagine the backlash over the past 24 hours, spread over 3 months.

Especially if they kept as quiet about the specific details of these features as they did the rumours.

 

[sdornan]

I remember reading rumors before today that they've been months behind schedule in development. I wouldn't doubt it after today's event.

 

[Radec]

Late? More like rushed.

 

[Orca]

They showed off the box, the controller, the UI, and the ability to switch between TV/internet/games quickly. They showed the new Kinect usability, intro'd three or four EA games with a bunch of talk about their new engine for next gen, a new IP from Remedy, the Halo TV show with Spielberg, revealed Forza 5 for launch, talked TV interaction functionality, and teased a bunch of other games with the tiles they showed during the UI portion. They also showed the latest game from the biggest gaming property of all time to close the show.

That's not bad for an hour. People may have had ridiculous expectations.

 

[dragonflys545]

Get that COD DOG ready.

 

[TheHater]

They were working out the $400 million dollar deal with the NFL for the exclusive feature for the next several years...LOL

 

[Avallon]

lol If Xbox One went first and then Sony afterwards with PS4....

Well lets just say there would be more buzz for PS4 after the reveal if the reveal went as they did for both consoles.

yo dawg'

 

[LyleLanley]

They probably wanted to time it to get momentum going into E3.

 

[USC-fan]

Seems they wanted a box. They show a box and had women on stage. Sure they thought it would hit it out the park...

They were working out the $400 million dollar deal with the NFL for the exclusive feature for the next several years...LOL

Wow that's nut.

 

[Rhindle]

The whole thing looks incredibly rushed, like it was slapped together in the course of a week. Including the console design.

 

[Sean]

Xbox 360 was revealed May 13, 2005 so it's pretty much the same time frame/strategy as last gen. Only difference is that Sony revealed earlier this time around.

 

[Brokun]

They probably weren't prepared.

I seem to recall that Kaz kept talking about a 10 year life for the PS3. It's been less than 7, so I'm sure when Sony prepared the announcement in February Microsoft was thinking, "...already? but but but..."

 

[Tagg9]

They were working out the $400 million dollar deal with the NFL for the exclusive feature for the next several years...LOL

Woah, I did not realize it was worth that much.

 

[TheHater]

Wow that's nut.

I know. They could have funded at least 6 new IP

 

[Dennis]

Remember in school when you had to do an assignment but you waited until the last minute because you knew it was going to get a bad grade?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I know. They could have funded at least 6 new IP

20 games easily @ 20 million each.
10 games @ 40 million each.

 

[LyleLanley]

The whole thing looks incredibly rushed, like it was slapped together in the course of a week. Including the console design.

Rushed? It may have not been what hardcore gamers wanted but the reveal seemed rather polished to me.

 

[BadAss2961]

They were likely working on finalizing the UI and the corresponding OS functionality.

Crazy how the design of the UI is exactly the same as what they've been pushing on 360.

I was at least expecting some sort of new, sleeker look.

 

[Punchpudding]

I think they are significantly behind schedule and had to rush to get this presentation out of the way. I'm sure there were supposed to be more games slated to be shown that had to get cut.

That said, they've probably planned for a constant drip of information/marketing from here to E3 and onwards to keep it fresh on everyone's minds-- ie. saving up details so there is enough to spread between now and launch.

 

[Avallon]

Xbox 360 was revealed May 13, 2005 so it's pretty much the same time frame/strategy as last gen. Only difference is that Sony revealed earlier this time around.

Minus the emphasis on the gamer

 

[jordan0386]

They were working out the $400 million dollar deal with the NFL for the exclusive feature for the next several years...LOL

Seeing the previous plays. all plays of a game instantaneously seems cool as fuck for an offensive coordinator.

Just dont throw those things, when a pick6 happens.

 

[sdornan]

Seems they wanted a box. They show a box and had women on stage. Sure they thought it would hit it out the park...



Wow that's nut.

Will this kind of thing even make any kind of ROI?

 

[Bedlam]

Rushed? It may have not been what hardcore gamers wanted but the reveal seemed rather polished to me.

Those trailers that showed raw models instead of gameplay felt like they were thrown together so MS has something to show.

 

[Alx]

I think they could have made that presentation in March indeed, even if they were late on their schedule, it was mostly trailers anyway.
I suppose they pushed it back to have a shorter time between it and E3, so that the wait for the games is less frustrating. I would have been mad to have the same no-show of interesting games and then have to wait for three months to see things relevant to my interests. At least now it's only three weeks.

 

[Rhindle]

At this point, I'm worried about what we're going to see at E3 - three weeks from now. Will we even get playable demos of anything?

 

[LyleLanley]

Those trailers that showed raw models instead of gameplay felt like they were thrown together so MS has something to show.

I forget which trailers had raw models, was it the Kinect demos or EA sports?

 

[Bedlam]

I forget which trailers had raw models, was it the Kinect demos or EA sports?

Call of Duty. They even showed the player-hands model.

 

[LyleLanley]

Call of Duty. They even showed the player-hands model.

Isn't that standard stuff though? "Look at how many more polygons we can fit in our games with this new amazing hardware!"

 

[W1SSY]

Call of Duty. They even showed the player-hands model.

The arms are so beautiful.

Maybe they tried to find ways to lessen the requirement of always online.

 

[Ardenyal]

CGI can take a surprisingly long time to render.

 

[Perkel]

CGIs don't make themselves. /s

frankly i wonder that too. I think they planned it for E3 but they were surprised by move from Sony and how they will focus whole E3 on PS4 games instead of console reveal.

 

[Bedlam]

Isn't that standard stuff though? "Look at how many more polygons we can fit in our games with this new amazing hardware!"

Not really. I've never seen those kind of models demoed at a press event. That's something you'd see in modding communities, posted in forums or on youtube.