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So why my TV's backlight keeps switching lightly on and off depending on the action?

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I find this very annoying, maybe it's just normal but, why the TV's screen backlight seems to be going on and off depending on what's on the screen? I make an example: in A Realm Reborn is more or less constant but when a balloon with conversations shows up in a cutscene, everything becomes more brighter, then goes a bit more dark again when u proceed. Is there any way to turn off this annoying stuff? It's especially noticable with darker games actually.

SAMSUNG UE50ES6100
 
Sounds like Dynamic Contrast, isn't good for games in a number of ways. Look in your picture settings and turn off most things, if you can find a game mode turn it on.
 
That's Dynamic Contrast. Generally you want to turn that off. While it can give dark scenes a little more clarity, it's not worth the constant light shifting that occurs.
 
Sounds like Dynamic Contrast, isn't good for games in a number of ways. Look in your picture settings and turn off most things, if you can find a game mode turn it on.

Yup, turn this off immediately. It's a terrible terrible feature... and makes no sense to be on by default. This is likely OP's problem.
 
"Active backlight" or something similar?

Have a good trawl through the settings, turn any "auto", or "enhance" crap off you can find and see what happens.
 
That's the crap LCD/LED TV makers enable by default in a vain attempt at preventing customers from realizing the blacks on their TVs are actually gray. Look for all settings that have "auto" or "dynamic" in their names and turn them off (there may be more than one).
 
I was looking through all the settings, included the Eco Solution's ones, but it's all correctly on OFF for what I see. Maybe this TV backlight is just so bad (it's a samsung 55" S6). Boh? It's funny because my previous samsung had anything like that.
 
Does it have a feature called Local Dimming or Auto Light Limiter (Sony)? Those should be turned off as well.

NO...local dimming is a VERY important feature for LED sets that support it. It allows specific clusters of LED's to be turned completely off when displaying black images...this helps with contrast SIGNIFICANTLY

I was looking through all the settings, included the Eco Solution's ones, but it's all correctly on OFF for what I see. Maybe this TV backlight is just so bad (it's a samsung 55" S6). Boh?

there absolutely is somewhere a setting for the backlight or LED brightness..

you mentioned having a 6 series Sammy...im assuming the 2014 sets? if so i just looked through your user manual

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201403/20140331193420198/[ENG]X14DVBADH-0327.pdf

- under "Picture" you have your picture mode settting...try Standard (most likely it was set to Dynamic by default)
- under "Picture" you have a backlight setting..see what this is set to and report back
- under advanced settings there is an option for "motion lighting" it is described in the manual as "Adjusts the brightness in response to on-screen movements to reduce power consumption." check that as well
 
I was looking through all the settings, included the Eco Solution's ones, but it's all correctly on OFF for what I see. Maybe this TV backlight is just so bad (it's a samsung 55" S6). Boh? It's funny because my previous samsung had anything like that.

It's impossible to turn off on certain Samsungs, there should be an option called shadow detail to minimize the effect though, setting it to -2 works best for me.

edit- looking around some people say -1 or 0 disables it, I guess you'll have to see which works.
 
It's impossible to turn off on certain Samsungs, there should be an option called shadow detail to minimize the effect though, try setting it to -2.

I don't find anything like that, but there an option I don't understand if it's good to keep it off or not. MENU->SYSTEM->ECO SOLUTION->ECO SENSOR: Off (it's off now) or ON + Min. Backlight 1~20
 
NO...local dimming is a VERY important feature for LED sets that support it. It allows specific clusters of LED's to be turned completely off when displaying black images...this helps with contrast SIGNIFICANTLY

If your set is edge lit, local dimming will be crap and should be turned off. It's only good with full arrays.
 
- under "Picture" you have your picture mode settting...try Standard (most likely it was set to Dynamic by default)
- under "Picture" you have a backlight setting..see what this is set to and report back
- under advanced settings there is an option for "motion lighting" it is described in the manual as "Adjusts the brightness in response to on-screen movements to reduce power consumption." check that as well

1) I already set it at standard few months ago when I bought it, so it's on standard even now :P

2) it's on 13/20 after trying differently

3) Motion Lighting is currently off. Should be on instead?

Also, because we're already at it lol, is it right to keep "Black Tone" option as OFF?
 
NO...local dimming is a VERY important feature for LED sets that support it. It allows specific clusters of LED's to be turned completely off when displaying black images...this helps with contrast SIGNIFICANTLY

While true, there is a lag to it that on some sets that can be absolutely horrible. Especially when you have things flashing on the screen such as muzzle flash, lightning, or spinning/running past the lighting effects in game. It is almost always the right option to just disable it in games.
 
Make sure it's not "Energy Saving" that's causing it. Should be off.

Maybe I have to turn this ON and force backlight to 13 in any case?

I don't find anything like that, but there an option I don't understand if it's good to keep it off or not. MENU->SYSTEM->ECO SOLUTION->ECO SENSOR: Off (it's off now) or ON + Min. Backlight 1~20
 
Could have anything to do with BLACK LEVEL being low instead of normal? I'm keeping it low because I always though blacks looked better this way but... maybe this one causes it.
 
Well there are indeed a few Samsung models where the pulsating backlight can't be turned off, looks like yours might be one of them.
 
PC mode is generally the purest setting with also the lowest input lag on Samsung tvs, but usually can't be set on every input. Otherwise, movie/cinema with game mode enabled is your best bet for accurate picture without fluctuating blacks.
 
That's Dynamic Contrast. Generally you want to turn that off. While it can give dark scenes a little more clarity, it's not worth the constant light shifting that occurs.


Well there are indeed a few Samsung models where the pulsating backlight can't be turned off, looks like yours might be one of them.



I dont know if the OP has a Samsung or not, but some Samsung TVs (just a few years old) do not allow you to turn off the "Auto Dimming" but it will let you turn off the Dynamic Contrast. These are not the same thing, the "auto dimming" is what is dimming the image and needs to be tweaked.


For My 50inch LED Samsung, I had to do some tweaks in the Color Space Settings, to "trick" the TV into not using the "Auto-Dimming" Feature. I searched for my TV online, found it over on AVS forums, and have never looked back. Changing the color settings didn't change how the image looked on my TV, since you basically change them all the same amount, but it did turn off the annoying dimming making my TV light, then dark, then light, depending on the scene.



EDIT: OP, I dont know how I found it, but here is the fix for what they refer to as "auto dimming" for Samsung ES Series Televisions. That is the one I had, and you have the ES series as well. This should work for you, without going into the service menu or anything. This fix works, and I hope it works for you. Just make sure to right down all your default Picture Settings so you can switch them back if it doesn't work for you!

https://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-es-series-auto-dimming.1700774/
 
I wish settings like this weren't so obfuscated. I just want a setting that says 'don't do anything except display the colours coming in, and stop fucking about with the picture'
 
Dynamic contrast is one thing, but many TVs still turn on/off the backlight whether you want it or not. There's usually no fix for that.
 
I have an LED samsung tv and the only way to entirely disable the screen dimming during dark screens was to go to Picture>Advanced Settings>Shadow Detail and set it to +2. It took forever to figure out but was well worth it. My screen would get so dark sometimes i couldn't even read white text on the screen.

If you don't see that option OP, your tv may not allow the dimming to be dialed.
 
I have an older Samsung tv (R87) and the only way to turn off the flickering was to enter the service menu and turn of 'Dynamic dimming' and 'Dynamic CE' from the adjust menu.
 
NO...local dimming is a VERY important feature for LED sets that support it. It allows specific clusters of LED's to be turned completely off when displaying black images...this helps with contrast SIGNIFICANTLY

Only for sets that have full array dimming, which are few and very, very expensive. If you´re spending the money for that feature, I'm thinking you should know what it does.

It's very unlikely the OP's set has full array dimming (since he can tell the whole set gets brighter or dimmer), so it's safe to turn it completely off.
 
I find this very annoying, maybe it's just normal but, why the TV's screen backlight seems to be going on and off depending on what's on the screen? I make an example: in A Realm Reborn is more or less constant but when a balloon with conversations shows up in a cutscene, everything becomes more brighter, then goes a bit more dark again when u proceed. Is there any way to turn off this annoying stuff? It's especially noticable with darker games actually.

"info menu mute power" and disable "Dynamic contrast"
 
The option is called "motion lighting".



Dynamic Contrast on Samsungs is well done and does not produce the effect in the OP.
 
OP, try the link I posted in this thread. It is for the ES series, which you have. If it doesn't work, you can always switch the settings back. Just write down your settings before you change anything, or take a picture of them, and you can switch them back to what they were. I am pretty confident this will work for you.

This "auto dimming" cannot be turned off on the ES Series Samsungs. You can turn off Dynamic Contrast, which isn't exactly what is causing the dimming of the image.


https://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-es-series-auto-dimming.1700774/
 
What's with everyone mentioning Dynamic Contrast? Dynamic Contrast on every TV I've ever used is just a fake contrast boost that crushes blacks. Unless other TVs do something else (I don't think they do) this setting should NEVER be used.
 
OP, try the link I posted in this thread. It is for the ES series, which you have. If it doesn't work, you can always switch the settings back. Just write down your settings before you change anything, or take a picture of them, and you can switch them back to what they were. I am pretty confident this will work for you.

This "auto dimming" cannot be turned off on the ES Series Samsungs. You can turn off Dynamic Contrast, which isn't exactly what is causing the dimming of the image.


https://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-es-series-auto-dimming.1700774/

I'll try copying those settings, thx. Which of the three you suggests though? The OP there gives 3 different versions of it.
 
My parents' LED TV does this, and it's incredibly annoying.

I went through every setting on their TV and couldn't find the option to turn it off.
 
I noticed this on my parent's Samsung LED TV when I was visiting over the holidays. It had to do with the light in the room. when I turned the lights off it would dim the TV, but when lights were on it would brighten it. I am guessing there is a sensor on the TV that senses light and adjusts accordingly. So maybe while you are playing games some scenes are brighter than others so it is brightening/darkening your screen based on this. I ended up turning on a lamp that was close to the TV and I never had it happen again.

I hope this helps.
 
I thought this was just a side-effect on my new LG LED TV but thankfully I found a setting to turn off the awful dimming, it was so irritating. I guess it was partly my fault for not digging deep enough in the settings.
 
I'll try copying those settings, thx. Which of the three you suggests though? The OP there gives 3 different versions of it.

I would start with the first one then work your way down.




To disable CE-Dimming/Auto Dimming on the 2012 ESxxxx series sets:

Auto dimming works by dimming the screen when a certain low brightness level is reached. By raising the brightness enough, that can assure that the tv never reaches that low brightness level. Of course that means raising the tv brighter than you should, resulting in an overly-bright and washed-out image. You can compensate for that however by making a simple adjustment in the white balance menu. Basically, you're cranking up the brightness a bit at the beginning of the processing chain, where CE-Dimming is involved, and then compensating for the brightness later in the processing chain in the white balance, once CE-Dimming has looked at the image and decided not to auto-dim due to the extra brightness. It's just a simple trick, but it works really well.


- turn your brightness up to 53

- In your white balance menu, set the following:

R-Offset - 12
G-Offset - 12
B-Offset - 12

R-Gain - 25 (default)
G-Gain - 25 (default)
B-Gain - 25 (default)

Keep gamma on 0


That's it! CE-Dimming is now reduced to the point where it should not bother you. There is only the slightest hint of CE-Dimming remaining. And Micro-Dimming still appears to be working. This can be applied to Standard, Natural, and Vivid modes. CE-Dimming does not affect Movie/CAL modes like the other modes.


I have tried to tweak it a bit more hoping to completely eliminate the dimming altogether by dropping the Offsets another 4 points each, and adjusting the brightness accordingly using the AVS calibration disc. This results in the CE-Dimming appearing to be virtually eliminated. Just make sure all Offsets are dropped equally to avoid any unwanted color changes. Here is my workaround after dropping the Offsets down another 4 points each and using the AVS disc to adjust the brightness and contrast:

Brightness - 61

R-Offset - 8
G-Offset - 8
B-Offset - 8

R-Gain - 25 (default)
G-Gain - 25 (default)
B-Gain - 25 (default)

You may find you don't even need to drop it down further, and just keep the Offsets on 12 and brightness on 53.

Another nice benefit to doing this is it disables the screen turning off when the image displayed is all black.. The screen will still turn off however when switching sources. You can also still apply color adjustments to the white balance settings once you put in the workaround. For instance, I find my set has too much of a red push, so to compensate I reduce the R-Offset and R-Gain settings:

Brightness - 61

R-Offset - 3
G-Offset - 8
B-Offset - 8

R-Gain - 10
G-Gain - 25 (default)
B-Gain - 25 (default)

Until Samsung gives us the ability to disable CE-Dimming at our will (if ever), this should work nicely to accomplish the same thing without having any apparent negative effects.
 
I had this with my Samsung TV (UN46ES6500 series). I'm not sure it works the same on your model, but the solution on my TV is that you have to set your Picture Mode to Movie. It's the only mode that disables the automatic dimming completely, at least it does on those Samsung TV sets and probably on a lot more. From thereon out you can calibrate your set with all other settings (be sure to disable all so called 'enhancements').

Hope this helps on your set.
 
Have you tried labelling the HDMI source as PC?

It should turn off every form of auto-dimming (for example my samsung led tv has the dimming on even in game-mode, only PC mode gets rid of it).
 
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