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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
My boys and I are all on AM4 and probably will be for a bit. 5800x3D has insane legs and the 5500 is fine for my boys. In CPU-limited scenario(720p, lowest settings) the 5800x3D can still push 180fps in Cyberpunk and 220fps in R&C Rift Apart. These days I usually just shoot for whatever settings give me 80fps+ and let frame generation do the rest.
I would say that AM4 is more than fine for somebody looking to get into PC gaming at the entry to mid-range level.
I would say that AM4 is more than fine for somebody looking to get into PC gaming at the entry to mid-range level.
Kupfer
Member
Built my old system in 2012 and it served me very well. It originally had a GTX680 which was fine that time but with a 1440p monitor the 1070ti was needed. But all in all it was a great machine.LOL, I have the exact same CPU, RAM Amount (3600Mhz) and GPU.
And I have the same CPU/RAM from you old machine(except having a GTX 770 / RTX 2060S before)
LavitzSlambert
Member
5800X3D is going to go down as one of the best CPUs of all time. The staying power is insane.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
I've got 32gb of ddr4 I'm lovin' it.
I'm stuck on a 5700x3d but I'm gaming at 4k these days so it doesn't matter.
I'm stuck on a 5700x3d but I'm gaming at 4k these days so it doesn't matter.
Hoddi
Member
This is just what the latter half of a console gen looks like. Almost any CPU released in the past 5 years is still going strong because there's nothing to truly take advantage of more performance. And this won't change until the next gen launches.
My 9900k from 2018 still powers through anything I throw at it. Most of the time I can't even tell the difference from my newer 7950X3D without a framerate counter.
My 9900k from 2018 still powers through anything I throw at it. Most of the time I can't even tell the difference from my newer 7950X3D without a framerate counter.
Radical_3d
Member
Technology in 2026, people.
Wolzard
Member
AMD still manufactures and sells Zen 2 and Zen 3 to this day, at least in the mobile market.
Ryzen 3 30 - Zen 2 - 4/8 - Radeon 610M 2 CU
Ryzen 5 40 - Zen 2 - 4/8 - Radeon 610M 2 CU
Ryzen 3 110 - Zen 3 - 4/8 - Radeon 680M 4 CU
Ryzen 5 130 - Zen 3 - 6/12- Radeon 680M 6 CU
Ryzen 5 150 - Zen 3 - 6/12- Radeon 680M 6 CU
Ryzen 7 160 - Zen 3 - 8/16- Radeon 680M 12 CU
Ryzen 7 170 - Zen 3 - 8/16- Radeon 680M 12 CU
Out with the old, in with the old: AMD's still selling Zen 2 and Zen 3+ processors, now under the guise of the Ryzen 10/100 series
Even if they're super cheap, the price of DDR4 will ruin sales.
Boss Mog
Member
I just bought an AM4 mobo and CPU.
My main desktop is 9 years old (i7 7700K + GTX 1080) and I was planning on building a new rig in 2026 with a 9800X3D and either a 9070 XT or 5070 Ti. RAM prices being what they are now I abandoned that plan. But I did just jump on a 9070 XT that was well under MSRP since GPUs are most likely going to increase in price in 2026.
My 7700K and PCI-E 3.0 mobo were going to bottleneck my new 9070 XT so i decided to upgrade my mobo and CPU to AM4 to vastly reduce the bottleneck, and gain a ton of performance/features in the process. The best part is that I can keep using my current DDR4 RAM and basically all my other components are still compatible as well. Another great thing is that the combined cost was very low.
This new AM4 system will last me a few years until the "6" stuff comes out (AM6, DDR6, PCI-E 6.0) and I'll upgrade other parts along the way like my PSU, case, storage, etc...
It seems like other people are having the same idea. B550 motherboards and 5000 series CPUs are showing up in many online stores' "best sellers" list and prices for these have even begun to rise from the newfound demand.
My main desktop is 9 years old (i7 7700K + GTX 1080) and I was planning on building a new rig in 2026 with a 9800X3D and either a 9070 XT or 5070 Ti. RAM prices being what they are now I abandoned that plan. But I did just jump on a 9070 XT that was well under MSRP since GPUs are most likely going to increase in price in 2026.
My 7700K and PCI-E 3.0 mobo were going to bottleneck my new 9070 XT so i decided to upgrade my mobo and CPU to AM4 to vastly reduce the bottleneck, and gain a ton of performance/features in the process. The best part is that I can keep using my current DDR4 RAM and basically all my other components are still compatible as well. Another great thing is that the combined cost was very low.
This new AM4 system will last me a few years until the "6" stuff comes out (AM6, DDR6, PCI-E 6.0) and I'll upgrade other parts along the way like my PSU, case, storage, etc...
It seems like other people are having the same idea. B550 motherboards and 5000 series CPUs are showing up in many online stores' "best sellers" list and prices for these have even begun to rise from the newfound demand.
MrCunningham
Member
I am using a lowly 2700... but maybe I should upgrade to a 5700x? Take advantage of this. I don't really feel any need to upgrade. The Ryzen R7 2700 serves me well. It's pretty low power consumption, tackles anything I throw at it reasonably well. I am running on a B450 motherboard that maxes out at PCIe3.0.
I could run a 5700x in this unit. But the 'x' would be a moot point. I could just get a 5700, if AMD brings that back... and I know I can but them now. But they are getting harder to find in the wild. In some cases re-sellers like to jack up the prices on these older parts. I have seen the 5700x3D and 5800X3D sold for stupidly expensive prices. More than a Ryzen 9800X3D. Which is just not worth it. I have seen some really cheap B550 motherboards that I could snag.
I really wanted to build a newer AM5 system in October 2025, but then I said to myself 'nah, i'll wait for those 'Black Friday' sales instead. Which was when RAM went up by 150% and I said to myself: "Nope". Now I am stuck on the AM4 platform for a while longer. Again, using an old Ryzen 2700. I use it because I never felt the need to really update to a newer AM4 part. I thought to myself that AM5 would be my next stop. I do have 64GB RAM. I stocked up on DDR4 when it was cheap in 2024.
I almost suspect that AMD still has a warehouse of binned AM4 CPU's somewhere that they just looked at and said: "Let's put these out into the market now, and just get rid of as many as we can". I cannot imagine AMD going back to manufacturing more parts.
I could run a 5700x in this unit. But the 'x' would be a moot point. I could just get a 5700, if AMD brings that back... and I know I can but them now. But they are getting harder to find in the wild. In some cases re-sellers like to jack up the prices on these older parts. I have seen the 5700x3D and 5800X3D sold for stupidly expensive prices. More than a Ryzen 9800X3D. Which is just not worth it. I have seen some really cheap B550 motherboards that I could snag.
I really wanted to build a newer AM5 system in October 2025, but then I said to myself 'nah, i'll wait for those 'Black Friday' sales instead. Which was when RAM went up by 150% and I said to myself: "Nope". Now I am stuck on the AM4 platform for a while longer. Again, using an old Ryzen 2700. I use it because I never felt the need to really update to a newer AM4 part. I thought to myself that AM5 would be my next stop. I do have 64GB RAM. I stocked up on DDR4 when it was cheap in 2024.
I almost suspect that AMD still has a warehouse of binned AM4 CPU's somewhere that they just looked at and said: "Let's put these out into the market now, and just get rid of as many as we can". I cannot imagine AMD going back to manufacturing more parts.
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Bojji
Gold Member
winjer
Gold Member
Some insane boost in certain games:
Also impressive is the 9800X3D. That CPU is a beast for gaming.
winjer
Gold Member
With DDR5 being so expensive, a lot of people can't upgrade into AM5 or LGA1851. So getting an X3D CPU can be great upgrade.
Someone with an old 2000 or 3000 series CPU can get a massive performance boost, even with just a 5500X3D.
Bojji
Gold Member
I think at this point I will keep using my 2019 motherboard until 2029...
winjer
Gold Member
I just hope it's not until 2039....
Bojji
Gold Member
I hope by 2029/2030 this whole Ai idiocy will end. And component companies will be begging us to buy their stuff again.
P:axMagellanic
Member
Wait, there's a new x3d chip? I'll have to look into it
StereoVsn
Gold Member
People just need to move near Microcenter. They are still running bundles like it's 2025!
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Before this whole recent Altman collapse the estimates were that shit is going to be constrained till 2030 at the earliest.
The memory cartel have been focused on HBM and GDDR7 to lesser extent so DDR5 expansion hasn't been happening outside the Chinese companies.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Damn. Bet you can color lighting in Unreal with that thing.Check out my new PC build
Same here. At this point I'm thinking when I retire I might just upgrade the power supply and the video card from a 5070ti to whatever XX90 is out at that time. (Admittedly I should have upgraded the nvme drive from 2tb to 4tb.)
poodaddy
Gold Member
I'm still on a 5900 X....not exactly my preference mind you as my wife's 9800 x3D is a remarkable CPU and me jelly, but at these prices I'm stayin parked here for the foreseeable future.
PeteBull
Member
Time to do a lil switcheroo, grab that tasty 9800x3d for urself, wifey probably wont notice anyways xD
poodaddy
Gold Member
Oh she'd notice, that would be a marriage strainer, especially when Witcher 4 comes out lol.
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Retrofluxed
Member
I've been running a 5800x3D since 2021 and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I have an ASUS TUF board that is total ass. It was pretty much the only AM4 board I could find at the time. If these are good I would consider swapping it out.
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Freelance Yakuza
Member
That was me last year. From Ryzen 5 3600 to 5500x3d. Baldur's Gate 3 got +30fps. Battlefield 6 got a significant increase too.
KenaiPhoenix
Member
This is why I never upgraded from AM4 and DDR4
I want to be with the cool kids
I want to be with the cool kids
Bojji
Gold Member
winjer
Gold Member
Not bad for a 4 year old CPU, still using DDR4.
And the 12900K, at least using DDR5, is still pulling along with the big boys.
Only when comparing with the 9800X3D, do these CPUs lose out in a significant way.
Shadowstar39
Member
Isn't this just going to make the ddr4 ram more expensive as that is not being made and being bought up too? They need to produce both.
It already is. I paid $45 for 32gb a year ago. Now it's almost $300.
It already is. I paid $45 for 32gb a year ago. Now it's almost $300.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
Given that the new platforms are DDR5 only, there really isn't much reason to.
rm082e
Gold Member
Yeah, I recently replaced my 1440 monitor with a 4k. I had not looked up any CPU benchmarks so I did out of curiosity. Found a video where a guy was running games at 4k max settings on a 5090, and the difference between the 5800x3d and 9800x3d was about 0.5%. The 9800x3d was about 12-18% lower in CPU total usage, but the frame rates were basically the same.
So I think I'm good for at least another generation. I'm currently on a 9070 XT so I'll stay focused on GPU upgrades as the market allows.
Sethbacca
Member
This was exactly my thought on seeing the thread title.
winjer
Gold Member
But in a time when AI upscalers have better image quality than most native TAA implementations, and provide better frame rate, no one will be running native 4K.
rm082e
Gold Member
That maybe true for the latest games, but most older games don't have native support for DLSS 3.5 or FSR 4. Even then, I choose to run as close to native 4k if I can get a stable frame rate above 80fps.