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If this is real, I can't say I'm impressed. Those prices are way too high. I don't care much about Metal Sonic, so I'm basically paying just under £5 for just a single track. Unless "Death Egg Zone" refers to a whole set of tracks, so there are actually three. But then I'd just be underwhelmed in that we'd be getting a new track theme so similar to Final Fortress.

Also, considering the fuss Sumo have made over DLC for this game, I was hoping for a lot more. Of course, it's possible that they're releasing it in small (and frequent) increments, but that just would just make the pricing all the worse.

I'd also be lying if I said that I don't want to lose Forklift Ryo as a pre-order exclusive, but that's just me being bitter. I'll deal with it. He's way overpriced though.


I'm wondering if this is an April Fool's joke or something. It's too lacklustre and the prices are ridiculously high.
 
I want to buy this.... but I'm a bit aprehensive, they haven't said anything and its really expensive for just one track and character. Look at what we got in Wipeout Fury for just a few pounds more: 4 reversible tracks, a dosen new ships with alternate skins and at least 3 completely new and awesome play modes.

EDIT: apparently the patch fixes the framerate up a bit and fixes the trophies
 
Apparently, it's real, and available now on both 360 and PS3.

I'm really not impressed. Death Egg Zone is just one track, so the asking price is way too high for such little content. This is a far cry from the awesome content that numerous Sumo developers said to expect, and even if this is only a small portion of it, that just makes me wonder how much the really good stuff will end up costing.

This almost makes the Stimulus Pack in Modern Warfare 2 look like a bargain. And at least the overpricing there actually makes a bit of sense, as it's the most popular online console game right now by a country mile, so there are people who will happily buy it with no objections. Much as I prefer S&SASR, it's not even in the same league as MW2 when it comes to popularity, so I don't see how they can justify charging so much.

Oh, and even though I'm not that bothered with DLC characters (I'd much rather see more tracks), they should have released a pack of several at once, if only to avoid the inevitable arguments in online games. As it is, it's going to be incredibly rare you get the chance to play as Metal Sonic, as you can guarantee that he'll be the first character to be picked by somebody. Unless you're the lobby leader or at least join a lobby right after it's created, you can bet that somebody else will pick him and won't give him up.
 
How does this work with online play, does the ps3 patch also include metal sonic so you can see him when others race with him? I would think on the 360 it will just be a ghost or sonic clone due to the tiny patch size limits, unless you buy the DLC.

If they do release toejam & earl, and Ristar ect are we going to be looking at 560 ms points each time? :lol :lol :lol

To compare you can buy a 10 or 11 car pack for forza 3 @ 400 allards.
 
Lighting Gels said:
I think Metal Sonic pack will cost 400 MSP, not sure though since it's not yet available.
I was going by a microsoft points conversion to the prices Rlan quoted, if it is 400 points then the PSN is getting ripped off :P
 
If it's 400 I'll take it. It's a tad on the pricey side for one track, a character, and 4 songs but at least the DLC is finally starting to trickle out. I still want more characters like Vyse from Skies of Arcadia or an older character like Ristar. I think they'd fit in quite well.
 
Btw guys, look who makes a cameo in the Death Egg stage..

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(from sonic stadium forums)
 
Gagaman said:
Btw guys, look who makes a cameo in the Death Egg stage..

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(from sonic stadium forums)
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I hope that doesn't mean he won't be a playable at some point :( :( :(

Also I wonder how close to the death egg this track is, looks like a green thunder ship stage or whatever.
 
I'm on my Xbox now and at the moment the only DLC available is the unlock all characters and the Ryo forklift truck which is 320 points.
Diablohead said:
How does this work with online play, does the ps3 patch also include metal sonic so you can see him when others race with him? I would think on the 360 it will just be a ghost or sonic clone due to the tiny patch size limits, unless you buy the DLC.
I'm interested in hearing how this works too. Depending on the cost I would certainly buy a playable Metal Sonic but not if I could only use him against other people who have the DLC, and it would especially be annoying if (as said above) like the other characters once someone else picks him no-one else can.
 
Diablohead said:
How does this work with online play, does the ps3 patch also include metal sonic so you can see him when others race with him? I would think on the 360 it will just be a ghost or sonic clone due to the tiny patch size limits, unless you buy the DLC.

If they do release toejam & earl, and Ristar ect are we going to be looking at 560 ms points each time? :lol :lol :lol

To compare you can buy a 10 or 11 car pack for forza 3 @ 400 allards.
I want Phantasy Star stuff... or Outrun... enough with Sonic. :|

Having said that, on the online matter -- maybe it's content already included on the disc? I hope not.
Well, Forklift Ryo is already on the disc, I already have that, but I'm talking about Metal Sonic.
This is probably why they are taking so long to put the content on the 360: they are going to make a free pack where you can download the data but not use it.
 
Wizpig said:
This is probably why they are taking so long to put the content on the 360: they are going to make a free pack where you can download the data but not use it.
Always the best way to do it, but what will they give for free, the music? I dunno since I not heard anything about the ps3 DLC having anything free alongside patch or otherwise.

It's a tough problem, best thing imo would be to release 3 characters in a pack and make one of them a freebie locking the others and any circuits until you pay, but we only have metal so far.
 
Apparently Metal Sonic and the Death Egg Zone have been removed from the PSN Store, because they weren't supposed to be released yet, as the date changed.

What the fuck? So what's the deal with people who already downloaded it? Will they be able to play it online?

Christ, somebody is doing a brilliant job of fucking all this up.
 
Ben2749 said:
Apparently Metal Sonic and the Death Egg Zone have been removed from the PSN Store, because they weren't supposed to be released yet, as the date changed.

What the fuck? So what's the deal with people who already downloaded it? Will they be able to play it online?

Christ, somebody is doing a brilliant job of fucking all this up.
Damn it, Leaked Sega of America.

They just can't keep one surprise EVER, can they?
Even if this time it's Sony's fault...
 
Regardless of who's fault it was (it certainly sounds like Sony's), once it was uploaded, it should have stayed there. There's no point in removing it after some people have already downloaded it.
 
Ben2749 said:
Regardless of who's fault it was (it certainly sounds like Sony's), once it was uploaded, it should have stayed there. There's no point in removing it after some people have already downloaded it.
I'm just pissed off that ONE time that I see a leaked DLC and I have the right amount of points to purchase it, it's not in my country/console :lol :|

Also, this reminds me of Burnout Paradise.
Remember when Toy Cars and something else leaked WEEKS (months?) before the release?
Some people purchased them, and you could see them online playing with those.

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Way too expensive. They should have put the Ryo forklift character in the same pack for 400 pts.

Saying that, there's too much Sonic stuff in the game already, so they give us Metal Sonic and Death Egg?
 
Neuromancer said:
Ryu forklift download XBLA

$4 for a 108kb unlock of something already on the disc? And that something is a different vehicle for an existing character? Assy, Sega, assy.

The Death Egg track looks cool though.
The reason forklift Ryo was on the disc is because it was a preorder item, but if metal and this track are in the game already I will lol and roll my eyes so much they will explode.

I do expect these to be freshly made though, but how long will these files be sat on the servers now without the ability to buy them? :(
 
Hang on a moment. The DLC is complete, the patch is live to allow the DLC, people have already downloaded the DLC, but they remove it from the store because "it wasn't meant to be released today"?

What the hell? Is Sega allergic to money or something?
 
gutter_trash said:
I hope the Death Egg gets Sonic & Knuckles music tracks

The music tracks are already known.

Cosmic Fall - Shadow the Hedgehog
General Offensive - Sonic Adventure
Never Let it Go - Sonic the Fighters
Egg Fleet - Sonic Heroes
Space Gadget - Shadow the Hedgehog


Man, I really wish we could choose what music to listen to in online races. Because the only good track there is General Offensive (Egg Fleet is OK, I guess). Why the music for Death Egg Zone in Sonic & Knuckles (or any Sonic music from the Genesis games for any of the other tracks) isn't there is beyond me. Instead we get two dull music tracks from Shadow the Hedgehog, which doesn't exactly have a lot of fans.

If they did insist on leaving out any Genesis music, I wish they could have at least dropped one of the Shadow the Hedgehog tracks for Bad Taste Aquarium (Sonic Adventure).
 
Azure Phoenix said:
Hang on a moment. The DLC is complete, the patch is live to allow the DLC, people have already downloaded the DLC, but they remove it from the store because "it wasn't meant to be released today"?

What the hell? Is Sega allergic to money or something?
They probably want to release it on the same day both on 360 and Ps3.

It will be fun to wait days or weeks for this over-priced DLC that we already know everything about... I'm not going to watch the video anyway.
 
Lighting Gels said:
New track is awesome.
Metal Sonic is OK.

Plus we get five more music tracks.

It's a nice deal imo.
Did you buy it?
Do you need to buy Metal Sonic and the track with SEGA miles after you buy the DLC with real money?
I hope so :P
 
You know what my favourite thing about this game is? The fact that it thinks I'm a liar.
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I now have all the achievements in the game except for the one that you get when you have all the other ones because the in-game tracker doesn't believe me that I unlocked one of the achievements before and wants me to do it again.
What achievement does it want me to do again? It wants me to lap someone on Xbox Live. Something which isn't really possible unless you get matched up with absolute idiots which I never do.
 
Guess I don't need this patch since it does nothing for me? Its a small one so wheres that dumb thread that said PS3 patches are huge? The 3 I've had access to are all really small! :lol

But maaaaaann. I thought if we were to get even one teeny bit of free dlc out of this game, that forklift Ryo would be it! Instead we get Segac'd once again! ALL dlc for this game will cost some serious cash an I want no part of it!

Online was nice while it lasted I guess (idk haven't logged on psn in like 3 weeks anyway) but now with suckers eating up new characters and new tracks the community'll get split and no one'll wanna play with the "old" stuffs which is only a month old...... blah!
 
Ryo Forklift not so much (since Ryo is already in the game), but the Metal Sonic+Death Egg+Songs? I'll be getting that.
 
OMG Aero said:
It wants me to lap someone on Xbox Live. Something which isn't really possible unless you get matched up with absolute idiots which I never do.

if you want i can join a game with you sometime and let you lap me so you can 1000 the game. pretty sure i added you from the online thread
 
Ben2749 said:
The music tracks are already known.

Cosmic Fall - Shadow the Hedgehog
General Offensive - Sonic Adventure
Never Let it Go - Sonic the Fighters
Egg Fleet - Sonic Heroes
Space Gadget - Shadow the Hedgehog

There are just no words to explain my complete disgust at that appalling choice of music. The sheer potential this level had for the music selection and they've pissed it all away.

This is the DEATH EGG, the whole point of this level is nostalgia. Not only is there not a single music track from any 2D Sonic game but over half of the music is from bloody Shadow The Hedgehog, one of the most hated Sonic games in existence.

I'm sorry, but this is a far more suitable selection:
Death Egg Zone Act 2 - Boss (S3& K)
Death Egg Zone Final Boss (Sonic 2)
The Doomsday Zone
Metallic Madness Present (JP/EU)
Never Let It Go (Death Egg)
Speed Highway
 
Run Through the Speed Highway is definitely an awesome track (which is only natural, as pretty much the entire soundtrack to Sonic Adventure is fantastic), it doesn't really fit Death Egg Zone. Bad Taste Aquarium would be a better pick, I think.
 
Ben2749 said:
Run Through the Speed Highway is definitely an awesome track (which is only natural, as pretty much the entire soundtrack to Sonic Adventure is fantastic), it doesn't really fit Death Egg Zone. Bad Taste Aquarium would be a better pick, I think.
Seems to be that they went with the same design as the sonic unleashed intro ships, this track and thunder deck both use the very same turret designs, which cheapen the feel of this death egg being a unique track visually. The sky box looks damn epic though from the video on youtube.

Wish they went with 2 layouts for the DLC though, still can't justify the price.
 
Ryo is up on the US store for...

FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE US PENNIES

I like how it is snuggled right there inbetween two FREE dlcs! :lol

My year of Segac loving instead continues to be one of hating outside of the base S&SASR game anyway.
 
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