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Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Wii/PS3/360; downloadable episodic release - [Update: $15?]
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RobbieNick
Junior Member
Just watched the casino levels.
It's weird. The levels and enemies themselves are classic Sonic in design, (Barring that fucking mine kart level.) but it's the Sonic Rush physics that are hurting the gameplay. Can they not see what EVERYONE ELSE can see? They need to.
A.) Slow Sonic down.
B.) Speed up his spinning in the air so he looks like he's in a ball. He just moves so... weird.
C.) Quit it with homing attack in boss fights. It's practically cheating!
D.) No mid-air momentum. Physics people!!
It's like they took the Sonic Rush Sonic and stuck him in a genesis game. He moves all...unnatural.
It still looks like a 6-7 game and I'm not happy with that. I won't take mediocrity in my Sonic games anymore.
BTW, is every Act-2 level gonna act like some kinda bonus game? Those aren't real acts IMO
Splash Hill had over-used dash pads, over-used jungle vines and over-used pulleys. They just don't get it.
"Hey guys! Here's a new mechanic! Let's spam the shit out of it!
It's weird. The levels and enemies themselves are classic Sonic in design, (Barring that fucking mine kart level.) but it's the Sonic Rush physics that are hurting the gameplay. Can they not see what EVERYONE ELSE can see? They need to.
A.) Slow Sonic down.
B.) Speed up his spinning in the air so he looks like he's in a ball. He just moves so... weird.
C.) Quit it with homing attack in boss fights. It's practically cheating!
D.) No mid-air momentum. Physics people!!
It's like they took the Sonic Rush Sonic and stuck him in a genesis game. He moves all...unnatural.
It still looks like a 6-7 game and I'm not happy with that. I won't take mediocrity in my Sonic games anymore.
BTW, is every Act-2 level gonna act like some kinda bonus game? Those aren't real acts IMO
Diablohead said:
Splash Hill had over-used dash pads, over-used jungle vines and over-used pulleys. They just don't get it.
"Hey guys! Here's a new mechanic! Let's spam the shit out of it!
Azure Phoenix
Member
You know what, after watching every leaked video this game is starting to remind me of Sonic Rivals 2.
Gimmick based act in each area? Check
Act with wildly different gameplay or a different objective in each area? Check
Final act = boss fight? Check
Camera zoomed too far in? Check
Gameplay being treated as a little more than a race? Check
Awkward platforming and death drops? Check
Crappy physics? Check
Homing attack spam being the only safe option for navigating the levels? Check
Gimmick based act in each area? Check
Act with wildly different gameplay or a different objective in each area? Check
Final act = boss fight? Check
Camera zoomed too far in? Check
Gameplay being treated as a little more than a race? Check
Awkward platforming and death drops? Check
Crappy physics? Check
Homing attack spam being the only safe option for navigating the levels? Check
magicalsoundshower
Member
Well, at least the visual design of Casino Street Zone seems quite pretty although I fear that underneath the blurriness it might look as grainy as what we've seen of Splash Hill so far. I think I also really hate the music in Act 2 and 3. It also loops way too quickly, argh!
Why do I keep having the impression I'm watching some kind of imitation/crappy replica of how video games were back in the day someone made for a movie or something?
Why do I keep having the impression I'm watching some kind of imitation/crappy replica of how video games were back in the day someone made for a movie or something?
There's a distinct difference in execution between classic pits and Dimps pits. They exist in the classics (not often), but crossing one is rarely the only way to progress and the path over it typically calls for slow and steady jumps instead of hair-trigger timing and level specific gimmicks.Teknoman said:
They do seem to have cut back on quantity, but they're still the same deathtraps as always that punish the player for not being clairvoyant and failing at mechanics that have nothing to do with platforming.
Act 1 looks good enough. Can't really see anything to complain about with it.
Act 2... is stupid.
Act 3 is almost as stupid. A few cannons spread across the level would've been okay, but that just doesn't look fun to play at all.
Boss is way too easy, the new flippers + homing attack mean Robotnik really doesn't stand a chance.
Shame, Act 1 actually made this one look promising :/
Act 2... is stupid.
Act 3 is almost as stupid. A few cannons spread across the level would've been okay, but that just doesn't look fun to play at all.
Boss is way too easy, the new flippers + homing attack mean Robotnik really doesn't stand a chance.
Shame, Act 1 actually made this one look promising :/
Hot Coldman
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jman2050 said:
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Would the whole last half of Casino Night Act 3 be easier if the guy just stopped at the badnik, jumped across those few platforms and went to the finish? I mean that was the only pit I saw in the whole video.
Sure the first time could have been hit or miss, but it really didnt look like that big of a problem to me. The amount of cannons in the stage are questionable though.
EDIT: Yup, that section is really nothing to be pissed about. He got the idea of what at the last minute. Bounce off the badnik, land on the other side, safely platform to the goal.
Sure the first time could have been hit or miss, but it really didnt look like that big of a problem to me. The amount of cannons in the stage are questionable though.
EDIT: Yup, that section is really nothing to be pissed about. He got the idea of what at the last minute. Bounce off the badnik, land on the other side, safely platform to the goal.
Hot Coldman
Banned
jman2050 said:
No need to tell people what they already know. Or should know.
Diablohead
Member
RagnarokX said:
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
Green Scar said:
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 or Against: The Official Thread of R.I.P HUELEN10
fixed.
MiamiWesker said:
My head hurts from watching it, I can't tell if the guy playing is terrible or the controls are just that bad...
is he purposely avoiding the slot? also how does he bounce so fast off the thing for half a second, then stop in midair wtf.
WHY DOES HE ALWAYS BOUNCE OFF THE WALL OFF THE STARTING PINBALL SHOT THING WTF
please someone gif any instance of it, especially at 3:55 to 4:00
FunkyMunkey
Banned
RagnarokX said:Example of the fine physics engine:
LOL at sonic just casually jogging up a vertical wall for 4 seconds.
NOLOL at sega trying to pass this off as legit.
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
So wonder if Mad Gear Zone has a dumb "entirely a gimmick" Act as well to slim down on yet more content of this being anywhere near a "game". Everything seems filled with so many poor design choices I won't be satisfied until Iizuka is publicly hung at this point.
Who cares about how he plays? The fact is that an entire level is a crappy uninspired pinball table that you are stuck playing until you reach 100,000 points. No matter how you play it the level sucks. The pinball game that comes installed on PCs has more depth.JoeFu said:
HamPster PamPster
Member
Anyone have a link to what got HUELEN10 banned?
I was reading some old DS thread today and was thinking, "hey I remember that HUELEN10 fellow, what happened?"
I was reading some old DS thread today and was thinking, "hey I remember that HUELEN10 fellow, what happened?"
JoeFu said:
Whoops :lol usually when people mention headaches its the cart. Guess I didnt read the whole post. Yeah, I think its just him being bad. The game looks like it gives you a little too much control in the air.
I just cant believe the entire Act 2 is a score challenge.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Peff said:
At least it'd be authentic 2D Sonic gameplay.
Diablohead
Member
With a mantis at the top! BRILLIANT! I 100% expect this to be in sonic 4 now.Peff said:
You just drop straight down into the slot, no problem. Dumb stage idea, but nothing hard/unplayable looking about it. Probably would get a better view if the guy was playing on a display that matched the aspect ratio. Also keep in mind every time you see that orange ripple, and he's not bouncing off something, its him pressing the homing attack button.
Horrible player + lame stage ideas = Bad video.
EDIT: At this point, Mad Gear act 2 could consist of balancing on a gear and riding it to spots to activate stuff.
Horrible player + lame stage ideas = Bad video.
EDIT: At this point, Mad Gear act 2 could consist of balancing on a gear and riding it to spots to activate stuff.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Lijik said:
I wouldn't put it past them mixing in a little S&K and forcing you to ride the mine cart while messing around with gravity.
Found the old first leak widescreen video (the one with Sonic standing on a slope and missing running effect):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVh9IzeAgrU
So has it been found out whether or not the most recent leaker can actually change the display to match whatever TV he's playing on? Rewatching this, it seems like you dont really need split second reaction time to hit an enemy.
Also I cant believe there is not a hint of lava/molten metal anywhere in the first episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVh9IzeAgrU
So has it been found out whether or not the most recent leaker can actually change the display to match whatever TV he's playing on? Rewatching this, it seems like you dont really need split second reaction time to hit an enemy.
Also I cant believe there is not a hint of lava/molten metal anywhere in the first episode.
I'm just wondering how all the early defenders of the game, who told the pessimists how stupid they were, now feel. I mean, you were proven wrong yet again. Everyone, except you, knew better because they had sense enough to look at history as a guide to the future. How does that feel?
Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
It does seem much better in wide screen.The new leaked videos make the game seem like Sonic the Hedgehog genesis on GBA. *vomit* I'm sure that playing in wide screen won't fix some of the more pressing problems, though.Teknoman said:
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