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[The Power Of Snap]

Sonic fans AND this thread are creepy.

It's depressing. You have the furrys, the kids and the hardcores who all don't know the fuck they want but in the end, you throw them a 4 sec clip of sonic and they have enough to talk about it for 6 months and talks about nostalgia for the 5337th time.

I'm having a hard time seeing somebody who lost interest in sonic games 15 years ago going back in the fanbase after he see's all that jazz.

What's next? Figuring out the numbers of pixels or if the color code of the new sonic is really the same blue they used in 1992?

edit: And yes i like classic sonic more than the shitty new one they did in photoshop in 5 minutes but we are talking about sonic team.

 

[The Technomancer]

It's depressing. You have the furrys, the kids and the hardcores who all don't know the fuck they want but in the end, you throw them a 4 sec clip of sonic and they have enough to talk about it for 6 months and talks about nostalgia for the 5337th time.

I'm having a hard time seeing somebody who lost interest in sonic games 15 years ago going back in the fanbase after he see's all that jazz.

What's next? Figuring out the numbers of pixels or if the color code of the new sonic is really the same blue they used in 1992?

edit: And yes i like classic sonic more than the shitty new one they did in photoshop in 5 minutes but we are talking about sonic team.

Sonic 2

Sonic 4

The dark blues are pretty similar, but the lighter blue is a significant deviation from 1992

 

[Stat Flow]

I hated that level.

The first half actually gave credit to the insane theory of hold right to win, and the second half with the rising water made it incredibly frustrating, much harder than later levels.

It's not that frustrating...

But those lobster-crab pieces of shit in Sandopolis zone and all the fuckwits (Even the grasshoppers) in Metropolis... That's frustrating

 

[Diablohead]

You're not even a fan of Richard Jacques?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwTTYohb-is

Those are some beautiful lyrics.

Reminds me that shortly after buying MSR I brought a scart cable with stereo leads so I could use my stereo in my room for sound instead of my tv, MSR, SA1 and Bangai-O were the only games I had with worthwhile music at the time so this kind of stuff was playing around the house :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDebh-Z8LGw

It's not that frustrating...

But those lobster-crab pieces of shit in Sandopolis zone and all the fuckwits (Even the grasshoppers) in Metropolis... That's frustrating

The scorpions were weak sauce, just use sonic's insta-shield to own them.

 

[RagnarokX]

It's not that frustrating...

But those lobster-crab pieces of shit in Sandopolis zone and all the fuckwits (Even the grasshoppers) in Metropolis... That's frustrating

Lobster-crab? ...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/6/19/

 

[WillyFive]

The dark blues are pretty similar, but the lighter blue is a significant deviation from 1992

That's.....that's actually pretty interesting.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

It's depressing. You have the furrys, the kids and the hardcores who all don't know the fuck they want but in the end, you throw them a 4 sec clip of sonic and they have enough to talk about it for 6 months and talks about nostalgia for the 5337th time.

It's not too hard.

Furries want uber tall Sonic with buff physique and really long quills.

Kids want green-eyed, Pokémon-ish Sonic with lots of lame friends and multi-colored hedgehogs.

Hardcores just want more good Sega Genesis games.

 

[WillyFive]

It's not too hard.

Furries want uber tall Sonic with buff physique and really long quills.

Kids want green-eyed, Pokémon-ish Sonic with lots of lame friends and multi-colored hedgehogs.

Hardcores just want more good Sega Genesis games.

I just want good games, I couldn't care less how they interpret Sonic. It's why I can like Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic 3K and the Dimps games without contradiction.

 

[gutter_trash]

It's not that frustrating...

But those lobster-crab pieces of shit in Sandopolis zone and all the fuckwits (Even the grasshoppers) in Metropolis... That's frustrating

do not jump onto...
just walk towards and press down to roll

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I just want good games, I couldn't care less how they interpret Sonic. It's why I can like Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic 3K and the Dimps games without contradiction.

This game should be right up your alley, then.

As long as they bug-test the damn thing and take their time designing it with a little bit of creativity, even the most whiny of Sonic fanbabies should be happy in the end.

 

[loosus]

It's not too hard.

Furries want uber tall Sonic with buff physique and really long quills.

Kids want green-eyed, Pokémon-ish Sonic with lots of lame friends and multi-colored hedgehogs.

Hardcores just want more good Sega Genesis games.

"Hardcores" are definitely losing the battle, then.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

"Hardcores" are definitely losing the battle, then.

Won't argue.

 

[andymcc]

I hated that level.

The first half actually gave credit to the insane theory of hold right to win, and the second half with the rising water made it incredibly frustrating, much harder than later levels.

i think it's an "ok" sonic level. scrap brain is a better, thematically similar level.

and, for once i agree with you willy. for the most part, the sonic 2 soundtrack is kind of crap.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I'm beyond hardcore in my demands and I know it. Black eyes, Mobius, Doctor Robotnik, no voice acting, no lyric music (unless you are called Sonic CD), sprites, no homing attacks, abstract levels, no acknowledgement of anything after S3K, etcetera, etcetera.

Can I call myself Oldcore?

Edit - I've just found that old list of demands I made

Yeah. mock me.

 

[loosus]

Yep, you're a fucking weirdo, too. Congrats.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I'm beyond hardcore in my demands and I know it. Black eyes, Mobius, Doctor Robotnik, no voice acting, no lyric music (unless you are called Sonic CD), sprites, no homing attacks, abstract levels, no acknowledgement of anything after S3K, etcetera, etcetera.

Can I call myself Oldcore?

You're lapsed hardcore.

The definition of 'hardcore' changes every 2 generations.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Can I call myself Oldcore?

As long as you're not crabcore..

i think it's an "ok" sonic level. scrap brain is a better, thematically similar level.

and, for once i agree with you willy. for the most part, the sonic 2 soundtrack is kind of crap.

 

[Sanjuro]

i think it's an "ok" sonic level. scrap brain is a better, thematically similar level.

and, for once i agree with you willy. for the most part, the sonic 2 soundtrack is kind of crap.

 

[Stat Flow]

If all those things were true on your list...it would be a 10/10 game.

for the most part, the sonic 2 soundtrack is kind of crap.

wat

 

[Eric C]

I was initially happy when I heard rumors in the old thread that Sonic might have black eyes. Not because green eyes or black eyes really make a difference or not. It was because I thought Sonic might be getting a new retro redesign ala "Epic Mickey".

Again not that it makes a real difference, but I also want Robotnik to be called Robotnik not Eggman in this game. I don't think that's going to happen though.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I was initially happy when I heard rumors in the old thread that Sonic might have black eyes. Not because green eyes or black eyes really make a difference or not. It was because I thought Sonic might be getting a new retro redesign ala "Epic Mickey".

Again not that it makes a real difference, but I also want Robotnik to be called Robotnik not Eggman in this game. I don't think that's going to happen though.

Maybe he'll be called Robotnik in the beginning.

And then during one of the cutscenes, Robotnik will say, "From this day FORTH...I shall be known as....EGGMAN!!!"



lol sonic continuity

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Maybe he'll be called Robotnik in the beginning.

And then during one of the cutscenes, Robotnik will say, "From this day FORTH...I shall be known as....EGGMAN!!!"



lol sonic continuity

I still want Doctor Ivo Robotnik to walk in, shoot Eggman in the back, and adjust his glasses like the silent bastard he is.

There, canon fixed. Eggman is the mentally ill brother of the Original Doctor.

 

[loosus]

Maybe he'll be called Robotnik in the beginning.

And then during one of the cutscenes, Robotnik will say, "From this day FORTH...I shall be known as....EGGMAN!!!"

With a really long, badly voice-acted cutscene to explain all of it, of course! And then the big surprise: "We know these old Sonic levels have been boring you, so let's rail through the rest of this game! Hold on to your hats, Sonic fans, because you're not even going to need the jump button from here on out! Yee haw!"

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I still want Doctor Ivo Robotnik to walk in, shoot Eggman in the back, and adjust his glasses like the silent bastard he is.

There, canon fixed. Eggman is the mentally ill brother of the Original Doctor.

They should include a code that unlocks the original character designs.

Complete with new opening-title sceen sequence where oldschool Sonic dropkicks Gumbymouse out of the logo and puts 4 fingers up.

With a really long, badly voice-acted cutscene to explain all of it, of course! And then the big surprise: "We know these old Sonic levels have been boring you, so let's rail through the rest of this game! Hold on to your hats, Sonic fans, because you're not even going to need the jump button from here on out! Yee haw!"

Just as long as the cutscenes are unskippable, then it's all good.

 

[Azure J]

do not jump onto...
just walk towards and press down to roll

I always just used Sonic's insta-shield (razor shield?) to deal with them. Bouncing off of things, especially badniks, in the classic Sonic games was just the way to go 9 out of 10 times, unless the fuckers couldn't be dealt with that way. :lol

 

[Sanjuro]

I remember when the Sonic story consisted of sprites laughing and Urkel cartoons.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I was initially happy when I heard rumors in the old thread that Sonic might have black eyes. Not because green eyes or black eyes really make a difference or not. It was because I thought Sonic might be getting a new retro redesign ala "Epic Mickey".

Again not that it makes a real difference, but I also want Robotnik to be called Robotnik not Eggman in this game. I don't think that's going to happen though.

I want black eyes back because Sonic's obnoxious green eyes are symptoms of the disease that has infected the franchise for a decade now. I know the green eyes should, in theory, not effect the gameplay. But think of it this way:

Imagine if there was a zombie outbreak, where every zombie was a flesh eating monster with grey rotted skin. What if a lone figure came from the zombies, and held a cardboard sign saying "I'm not a zombie" but still had zombie grey rotted skin...

Would invite the grey rotted skin figure into your fortified shopping mall?

That's the hedgehog's green eyes to me.

 

[Megadragon15]

Wow, just wow, at Mama Robotnik's true or false q/a list. I salute you for your dedication.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

I want black eyes back because Sonic's obnoxious green eyes are symptoms of the disease that has infected the franchise for a decade now. I know the green eyes should, in theory, not effect the gameplay. But think of it this way:

Imagine if there was a zombie outbreak, where every zombie was a flesh eating monster with grey rotted skin. What if a lone figure came from the zombies, and held a cardboard sign saying "I'm not a zombie" but still had zombie grey rotted skin...

Would invite the grey rotted skin figure into your fortified shopping mall?

That's the hedgehog's green eyes to me.

:lol

Well that was a stretch.

I have a different analogy.

What if they re-made Steamboat Willy featuring this version of Mickey:

 

[Door2Dawn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJT7RlCxDhc&feature=related

You know you like it, don't deny it.

 

[Eric C]

They should include a code that unlocks the original character designs.

Complete with new opening-title sceen sequence where oldschool Sonic dropkicks Gumbymouse out of the logo and puts 4 fingers up.



Just as long as the cutscenes are unskippable, then it's all good.

Sega previously said Sonic is the only playable character in this game.

But they still have a locked character on www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/ . Maybe it's a retro Sonic design?

 

[Megadragon15]

:lol

Well that was a stretch.

I have a different analogy.

What if they re-made Steamboat Willy featuring this version of Mickey:

In a way, Mickey Mania had a level where that version of Mickey ran into his Steamboat Willy version on stage 1. I know it is not the same thing but still.

 

[Sanjuro]

I mean this is the Sonic I grew up loving. I think the black eyes work well.

 

[SonicMegaDrive]

Sega previously said Sonic is the only playable character in this game.

But they still have a locked character on www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/ . Maybe it's a retro Sonic design?

If that was true, the whole internet would explode.

 

[RagnarokX]

Sega previously said Sonic is the only playable character in this game.

But they still have a locked character on www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/ . Maybe it's a retro Sonic design?

It's probably Robotnik. Characters don't have to be playable to be in a characters section.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I mean this is the Sonic I grew up loving. I think the black eyes work well.

We were born in different universes, it seems.

Saw this on Sonic Retro, courtesy of Chimbo. Its rather pleasant.

 

[Kodiak]

Oh my god after skimming the first 20 pages or so you fucking sonic fans act like a kid whose been bit by a dog. MEGA HYPE then the a tiny detail that you can do the homing attack and you all shit your pants with fear and anger.
:lol

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Oh God, not this shit again.

 

[The Technomancer]

I mean this is the Sonic I grew up loving. I think the black eyes work well.
Messed up Sonic

.....da hell is that!?

 

[Zen]

Oh God, not this shit again.

Hush, you're just as bad calling everyone in here blind fanboys.

We were born in different universes, it seems.

Saw this on Sonic Retro, courtesy of Chimbo. Its rather pleasant.

The custom Sonic 4 title looks great, one thing I don't like about the current look of Sonic 4 is how 'rendered' everything appears.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Hush, you're just as bad calling everyone in here blind fanboys.

Hey now, it's not like I've ever denied my hypocrisy.

The custom Sonic 4 title looks great, one thing I don't like about the current look of Sonic 4 is how 'rendered' everything appears.

Yeah I'm with you. Green eyes or not, that just looks nicer since it doesn't look like creepy DKC-style Sonic. Might have to make that my wallpaper.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

:lol

I can't help but laugh at shit like "Robotnik, NOT EGGMAN!" and "The game world must be referred to as MOBIUS!"

Honestly, if us Mario fans bitched and complained as much as you Sonic fans we'd embrace the North American non-canon liberties and Mario would be simultaneously trying to save Princess 'Toadstool' while eating 100 metric tons of pasta while being voiced by Captain Lou. All the while saying stupid nonsense like "Give me PASTA POWER! Give me PASTA MIGHT!" and throwing plungers like a lunatic.

That's what you SatAM fans sound like.

Yes, you.

:lol

Well that was a stretch.

I have a different analogy.

What if they re-made Steamboat Willy featuring this version of Mickey:

That would be pretty awesome, and I'm a way bigger Mickey Mouse fan than I am a Sonic fan.

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

The custom Sonic 4 title looks great, one thing I don't like about the current look of Sonic 4 is how 'rendered' everything appears.

Most of Sonic 3 was prerendered...

According to a SEGA rep back in the day, Sonic was ALWAYS prerendered. I don't know if it's true or not, considering the fact that they look like old fashioned sprite art in 1,2, and CD.

I remember when hardcore meant you imported things like Seiken Densetsu 3, Tobal 2, etc. etc. etc. Now it means you play Halo and Splinter Cell.

 

[Teknoman]

Ooh that one is pretty decent. Shame it's only the exception that proves the rule :'(.

Check out Casino Paradise and Egg Rocket Zone from Advance 1. Also every night time Sonic Unleashed song and the entire Sonic 2006 soundtrack.

Crappy gameplay may be in large supply, but crappy Sonic soundtracks are few and far between.

Oh my god after skimming the first 20 pages or so you fucking sonic fans act like a kid whose been bit by a dog. MEGA HYPE then the a tiny detail that you can do the homing attack and you all shit your pants with fear and anger.
:lol

Some fans. Some.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I can't help but laugh at shit like "Robotnik, NOT EGGMAN!" and "The game world must be referred to as MOBIUS!"

When did the Sonic game world start being referred to as Mobius? Didn't the old 16-bit games have the games take place on some fictional tropical island on planet earth?

 

[SuperAngelo64]

When did the Sonic game world start being referred to as Mobius? Didn't the old 16-bit games have the games take place on some fictional tropical island on planet earth?

I'm not sure. But I'm betting either a Genesis era instruction book or one of the goofy cartoons.

EDIT: Just did a quick search. It was made up in the Cartoons and comics.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

When did the Sonic game world start being referred to as Mobius? Didn't the old 16-bit games have the games take place on some fictional tropical island on planet earth?

It was a throwaway thing in the American manuals that the cartoons glommed onto.

 

[Brobzoid]

I don't care about the fiction. The games didn't have dialog, they didn't refer to shit by name. Why does the planet need a name, sonic isn't some astrophysicist that's exploring some fictional galaxy. Over analyzing the shit out of this mess. -_-

 

[Combichristoffersen]

It was a throwaway thing in the American manuals that the cartoons glommed onto.

AmeriKHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANs >:|

 

[Teknoman]

When did the Sonic game world start being referred to as Mobius? Didn't the old 16-bit games have the games take place on some fictional tropical island on planet earth?

I wanna say that started with one of the cartoon shows. Usually its just been around South Island...and even in the movie, the "land of darkness" where Robotnik's HQ is, looks like some post apocalyptic over industrialized earth.

Everything in Sonic's "land of the sky" world looks like the normal game areas, but after he went through a warp to get to the "land of darkness", everything looks like a normal earth environment for the most part...but not sure if thats proof of anything since they have what look like both badniks and swat bots.

Either way, when the games start leaning too close to realistic environments/characters, things go south.