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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread |OT3 & Knuckles|

Psxphile

Member
It's somewhat infuriating considering how much I've wanted to play a fully-realized Sonic RPG, only to receive such a slipshod product. I mean, it's technically playable... but why would I want to subject myself to that game's idea of a battle system? Where every action you can perform in battle is preceded by having to mash on-screen markers correctly ala Elite Beat Agents, including item usage. After the 5th battle that shit wears out its welcome.

Probably the only thing that was on-point was the initial artwork created for the game.
 
My stance on Sonic Chronicles is that it's actually not so bad as an RPG. It has a lot of the same quirks that are apparently present in all Bioware games of the era (cluttered interface, confusing status ailments, etc.)

But far from unplayable. I wouldn't even call it bad. It's just... you have so many better options for RPGs out there, especially on the DS. The worst sin that Sonic Chronicles commits (besides a bullshit cliffhanger ending) is that it's merely straight average.
 

TheOGB

Banned
Briefly returned to Lost World, no progress

Fuck that casino

I just... I don't understand. The game was inoffensive, decent even, and then all of a sudden the fourth world sucks spectacularly.
 

Village

Member
Chronicles the game where you have to jump shadow the hedgehog, to keep him from leaving the video game. And the start of pender's madness.

So, like... no, dude. I think Ian Flynn just went too big and it became too much to reliably manage. It doesn't have to be any more complex than that. :p

Its a lot more complex that, that. That shit is like a mystery box, everything leads to questions, and nothing is satisfying. Like there are desc ions outside of overturning that just make no sense.
 
Briefly returned to Lost World, no progress

Fuck that casino

I just... I don't understand. The game was inoffensive, decent even, and then all of a sudden the fourth world sucks spectacularly.

The wheels fall off quite spectacularly....
An ice world which changes the movement mechanics in an awkward way and renders the spin dash nigh on useless.
Then suddenly you're a snowball for no reason.
A casino stage where you rack up points that do....nothing (I forget if the patch that came after Wii U release changed this to earn extra lives or something).
That one of the pinball machines is like punishment that's tricky to escape from.
The final stage throws visual cohesion so far out the window that you'll be outside in a snowy half pipe which launches you into the vast sky space where the screen fades out and returns with you in a 2D factory interior.

Kind of feels like they had time to polish up to world 3 but that was it and then the rest of the game while still playable is noticeably rougher.
Just wait until you see Sonic's take on a DKCR rocketbarrel stage *shudders*
 
Its a lot more complex that, that. That shit is like a mystery box, everything leads to questions, and nothing is satisfying. Like there are desc ions outside of overturning that just make no sense.

It's Archie Comics, a company dumb enough to let Ken Penders get away with removing almost a third of the current cast because of a temper tantrum

I think you are giving them too much credit for being able to orchestrate a conspiracy like this
 

Sami+

Member
So I've read about ten or so issues of Archie now and really wish Ian Flynn wrote for the games too. Why can't we have story and dialogue like this there? I don't think it's that much to ask for. An Adventure 1 style game with a story like this (or better of course but I'm trying to be realistic here)? Sign me the FUCK up.
 

Village

Member
It's Archie Comics, a company dumb enough to let Ken Penders get away with removing almost a third of the current cast because of a temper tantrum

I think you are giving them too much credit for being able to orchestrate a conspiracy like this

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is me trying to functionally understand the badness of that crossoever, because this shit is just leading off with horrible decisions, like things " who was this for" , " who thought this was a good idea" a buncha shit on the ground floor seem like they didn't get asked.

Not saying archie isn't dumb, every once in a while they surprise me with some something really bad.

Just question after question, like why are archie sonic character crossover

So I've read about ten or so issues of Archie now and really wish Ian Flynn wrote for the games too. Why can't we have story and dialogue like this there? I don't think it's that much to ask for. An Adventure 1 style game with a story like this (or better of course but I'm trying to be realistic here)? Sign me the FUCK up.

Ian flynn will never write a sonic game, because that's what we want.


You will get those two dudes from happy tree friends, writing bad jokes and having everyone be snarky and analytical , and the story will be about nothing and you will like it
 
Is there a general consensus amongst the community regarding Generations? I feel like it's irrefutably the best of the 3D console games. I've been playing it for years now and I still try to improve my times in it.
 

Sciz

Member
This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is me trying to functionally understand the badness of that crossoever, because this shit is just leading off with horrible decisions, like things " who was this for" , " who thought this was a good idea" a buncha shit on the ground floor seem like they didn't get asked.

Sometimes Ian suffers under the weight of executive and editorial meddling, sometimes he screws things up all on his own. Usually he's on point, but nobody's perfect.
 

Village

Member
Sometimes Ian suffers under the weight of executive and editorial meddling, sometimes he screws things up all on his own. Usually he's on point, but nobody's perfect.

From what I heard, and saw in that book.Its probably the former, at least I hope it is. Not saying he has to make every book good. I'm not fond of him draging all this werehog business out longer than " wow sonic turned into thing for 2 pages and we never spoke about it again " . This one was, it was a large abstract kinda screw up.
 
Is there a general consensus amongst the community regarding Generations? I feel like it's irrefutably the best of the 3D console games. I've been playing it for years now and I still try to improve my times in it.

I think Generations is generally regarded very well among most people as one of the only "good" Sonic games in the last 10 or 15 years. It's not perfect but it's rare that you hear too much negativity about it from basically anyone, Sonic fan or not.

I do personally like Unleashed better, though.
 
I think Generations is generally regarded very well among most people as one of the only "good" Sonic games in the last 10 or 15 years. It's not perfect but it's rare that you hear too much negativity about it from basically anyone, Sonic fan or not.

I do personally like Unleashed better, though.
If they released Generations again on PS4 with Unleashed levels as well, I would buy it without a shadow of a doubt.
 

Zalman

Member
Is there a general consensus amongst the community regarding Generations? I feel like it's irrefutably the best of the 3D console games. I've been playing it for years now and I still try to improve my times in it.
Generations and Colors are generally liked by most people.
 

Village

Member
So,

Any of you all care about the 3d classic's collection?

Do any of you care about the hint dropped about next month?

Do any of you care about the other shadow, and silver statues announced for this years anniversary stuff.

Also sonic channel art for this month, super radical

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Got the bryan fury tekken 7 fated revolution scarf.


Anyone have any thoughts on the summer arc event , and where that might head?
 

RK128

Member
So,

Any of you all care about the 3d classic's collection?

Do any of you care about the hint dropped about next month?

Do any of you care about the other shadow, and silver statues announced for this years anniversary stuff.

Also sonic channel art for this month, super radical

Got the bryan fury tekken 7 fated revolution scarf.

Anyone have any thoughts on the summer arc event , and where that might head?

The Classics Collection was not the announcement I was expecting (thought of a updated port of the Genesis 360/PS3 Collection landing on PC/PS4/X1/Wii U) but was still a great announcement :D! The only 3D Classic I got is Sonic 1, so I might get this for the other gems :).

I'm excited about Sonic this year and I expect ALOT to come out for the series :D. While I don't care much for the hint (as we all know it will be either a Classic Sonic game, a Modern Sonic game, a Generations sequel or something using the Lost World Formula) but hoping we get a teaser trailer or something by March.

I'm not really getting any of the statures and merch (saving money for a PS4 and a lot of tests for college) but they look nice :).

Nice picture of Shadow Village :D! Looks great and reminds me of SA2 (mainly his board for the 2-Player mode of the game).

Edit: Have a question for Sonic Gaf; would a low-end PC run Lost World at a decent frame rate (30FPS)? Always wanted to play it but never got around to getting a Wii U to play the game. My laptop can run Racing Transformed on lowest settings (30FPS but very low res) and can sorta run Generations (but at a very low frame rate even on the lowest settings). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

Elija2

Member
Edit: Have a question for Sonic Gaf; would a low-end PC run Lost World at a decent frame rate (30FPS)? Always wanted to play it but never got around to getting a Wii U to play the game. My laptop can run Racing Transformed on lowest settings (30FPS but very low res) and can sorta run Generations (but at a very low frame rate even on the lowest settings). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you can't run Racing Transformed on anything but the lowest settings then I doubt you'll be able to run Lost World even at 30fps.
 

Elija2

Member
Could someone compile a list of available mods for SOnic LW on pc?

I think the only mods that have been released so far are custom character models and imported music. Nothing worth buying the game for if you weren't already interested in buying it.
 
I do personally like Unleashed better, though.

Real talk, I'd probably like Unleashed better as well if it wasn't such a grind.

Edit: Have a question for Sonic Gaf; would a low-end PC run Lost World at a decent frame rate (30FPS)? Always wanted to play it but never got around to getting a Wii U to play the game. My laptop can run Racing Transformed on lowest settings (30FPS but very low res) and can sorta run Generations (but at a very low frame rate even on the lowest settings). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Take note that, last time I played, 30FPS is a separate launch option and will introduce several gamebreaking glitches. Some scripted events won't activate, rendering levels like Tropical Coast Zone 1 unbeatable, and you'll just straight up phase through many springs that are required to progress.

Soooooo if you can't play it in 60 then I suggest skipping it entirely. The game itself isn't good enough to be worth the extra hassle.
 

Village

Member
I have goddamned idea what you all are talking about. Any who, apparently some of the anniversary statues were canceled? Also , lotta boom toys.
 

RK128

Member
I never got around to posting this here but in a sonic anniversary thread, I made trophy lists for Heroes, Shadow, and 06. I had a blast making them and wanted to share them with you guys :). Hope you all get a good laugh XD!

Sonic 06:
"Empty Flame" - Platinum
"S-Speed of Sound" - Beat Wave Ocean as Sonic
"That's not how Loops Work...." - Walk through a Loop in Wave Ocean as Sonic
"Goal Ring in the Ocean" - Fling yourself off the final Loop in Wave Ocean
"Some Flame Shield" - Walk over the Sand in Dusty Desert but run out of energy
"Its No Use!" - Lose to Silver one time
"That Train was Radical!" - Complete Mach Speed Section without dying or loosing Rings
"Hiding Place Achieved!" - Stop moving when snowboarding in White Acropolis
"Riding Up Hill!" - Turn around using the snowboard in either White Acropolis or Crisis City
"That Tornado is Carrying a Car!" - Do not get hit with Cars during Mach Speed section in Crisis City
"Water Dash" - Do not die in Kingdom Valley's Mach Speed Section
"Drawing the Line in the Sand" - Knuckles climbs the wall in Flame Core for 5 minutes
"Aquatic Monkey Balls" - Water Ball doesn't get hit during Aquatic Base
"The Princess Is Always in Another Castle" - Beat All Eggman Boss Fights
"Strange Love Triangle" - Complete Third Mission of Trials of Solenana
"Walk the Dog?" - Complete Dog Side-Mission in Solenana
"I AM the Hero" - Complete Chase the Kids Mission in Solenana
"You Serious?" - Complete Find the Captain Mission in Solenana
"My Bros are With Me" - Complete all Tails/Knuckles Tag-Team Missions in Solenana
"Sonic B---Outch!" - Use Blue Gem and hit a wall
"Sling Shot" - Use Sky Blue Gem
"Mini Me" - Use Purple Gem
"The Edge Comes Back!" Complete White Acroplis as Shadow
"Meh, Guns Aren't my Thing Anymore" - Use Chaos Spear 20 Times
"This is my Kind Of City" - Ride the Buggy in Crisis City for 2 Minutes
"Auto-Pilot" - Do not move the analog stick during Hang Gliding section in Wave Ocean
"Sticky Fingers" - Climb on Walls as Rouge for five minutes
"Robotic Flight" - 'Hover' as Omega for one minute
"My Darkside Rises!" - Beat Mephlius Fights
"All Hail Shadow" - Beat Shadow's Story
"Math is Fun....." - Beat Math side-mission as Shadow
"Some Race" - Beat Racing side-mission as Shadow
"Days of Future Past" - Complete Aquatic Base as Shadow or Silver
"Hedgehog Trunks" - Beat Crisis City as Silver
"Gotta Go Fast" - Walk through the entire hub of Solenena as Silver
"Lovely Forest Jog" - Walk through the entire hub of Solenena Forest as Silver
"Desert of Fustration" - Beat Dusty Desert within 10 minutes
"This.....Works?!" - Beat Ball Puzzle in Dusty Desert in 1 minute
"Its NO USE!!!!!" - Fight Sonic and hold him in place for 2 minutes
"Dark Sonic?" - Fight Shadow and hold him in place for 30 seconds
"Times is a mess" - Beat Silvers Story
"Fire Speed" - Beat Wave Ocean as Blaze
"This looks similar...." - Beat Wave Ocean as Tails
"Its not over yet?!" - Unlock Last Story
"We are all coming" - Beat End of the World
"Fairy Tale Kiss" - See cut-scene before final Fight
"Its Over!" - Beat Last Story
"Wasting Time is Fun" - Collect every silver metal
"I hate myself" - Beat Hard mode for the three characters
"Amego Mayhem" - Beat Amigo Mode

Shadow:
"Ow the Edge" - Get the Platinum Trophy
"Explosive Temper" - Use Chaos Blast 20 Times
"Time Hopper" - Use Chaos Control 20 Times
"The Power is MINE!" - Shoot 1000 Bullets when in Chaos Mode
"I see EVERYTHING!" - Have Doom's Eye Follow you in every Dark Mission he's in
"Sayanora, Shadow the Hedgehog" - Turn the game off
"Up Your Arsenal" - Use every weapon in the game
"At the Speed of Sound" - Beat Westopolis in 2 minutes
"Get that DAMN Emerald" - Complete Circus Park Hero Mission
"Cracking that Egg" - Get Dark Ending for Egg Dealer Boss
"Lost In Space" - Spend 40+ Minutes on Lost Impact'
"This is the REAL Ending ;)" - Unlock the Last Story
"What are you Waiting For?" - Spend 15 Minutes during the Final Boss
"Watch Where You're Aiming!" - Shoot a Hero Character when they are following you
"Player 2" - Sync up a second controller and play as the partner character for any stage
"Blue Blur, Huh?" - Beat Sonic in Crazy Gadget
"This isn't Phazner Dragoon..." - Beat The Ark Stage
"That Egg Fleet Really is Final Now" - Beat Dark Mission in Sky Troops
"Karate Chop Action!" - Defeat every version of the Egg Dealer
"I'm Complicated Guys...." - Beat a Hero Mission during Stage 6 of a Pure Dark or Semi-Dark Playthrough
"This is MY Game Sonic" - Beat the Dark Mission & Boss for Final Haunt
"Computer Room Found" - Beat Hero Mission for Comic Fall
"Haunted Chao Garden" - Beat Hero Mission in Cryptic Castle
"Cyber Hacker!" - Beat any Mission in Mad Matrix or Digital Circuit
"Escaping the City" - Beat Westopolis in Story Mode 20 Times
"Opps" - Shoot Gun Troops when Sonic Follows you in Westopolis
"Sorry Doom, my Aiming is Off" - Shooter Black Arms Creatures during Westopolis
"I follow my OWN Rules" - Complete Westopolis Neutral Mission when only having 1 foe left to kill for Hero/Dark Mission
"All Hail Shadow....." - Complete every level in the game with an A Rank
"Live and Learn" - Die 50 times
"Oh God, why?" clear all 326 routes
"Chaotix Confusion" - Beat Hero Missions with Knuckles, Charmy, Espio and Vector
"I'm not Sonic..." - Let Amy follow you in Hero Mission for Cryptic Castle for 4 minutes
"Eggman Empire" - Beat every Dark Mission with Eggman
"My, that is a big gun you have" - Have a gun equipped for the entirety of GUN Fortress
"Killing is not my style" - Beat any stage without killing any foe

Sonic Heroes:
Platinum - "We really are Sonic Heroes!"
"Power of Teamwork!" - Use Team Blast for Team Sonic
"Gotta Go Fast!" - Run as Sonic for an entire level
"Chaos Control!" - Use Team Blast for Team Dark
"Chaotic Jam" - Use Team Blast for Team Chaotix
"The Rose, Rabbit and Cat" - Use Team Blast for Team Rose
"Green Hills" - Complete Seaside Hill as Team Sonic
"Chemicals all over the Plants!" - Complete Power Plant as Team Sonic
"Rails in the Sky" - Complete Bullet Station or Rail Canyon as Team Dark
"Pinball Mayhem" - Complete Bingo Highway
"Forest of Vines and Green" - Complete Lost Jungle
"Remember the Pumpkins, Knuckles" - Complete Hang Castle as Team Sonic
"Froggy!" - Complete Frog Forest as Team Rose
"Mystery Solved!" - Beat the Team Chaotix's Story
"Hedgehog Found" - Beat Team Rose's Story
"Egg Cracked Wide Open!" - Beat Team Sonic's Story
"The Edge is Coming...." - Beat Team Dark's Story
"I got a Headache" - Punch as Knuckles with Sonic/Tails as Gloves
"Lightspeed!" - Use Sonic's Lightspeed Dash toward a group of robots
"Sonic Speed!" - Use Sonic's Rocket Axel (His attack)
"You feel chilly?" - Use Shadow's Tornado Attack
"The Wrath of a Stranger" - Shoot Shadow/Rouge as fireballs using Omega
"Fire and the Flames" - Use Omega's Level 2 attack
"Belly Flop!" - Use Big's Belly Flop on two robots
"I'm stronger then I look" - Fly Amy/Big as Cream
"Ninja!" - Turn Invisible as Espio
"Who Loves Bubblegum?" - Hover in the air using Vector's Bubblegum for 30 seconds
"What's so Special about this Stage?" - Get a Chaos Emerald in a Special Stage
"Finally, The Emeralds are Mine" - Get all Seven Chaos Emeralds as Team Dark
"Oh, you pansy" - Get all Seven Chaos Emeralds as Team Rose
"Egg Cracks" - Beat all Eggman Boss Fights
"Untouchable" - Survive Casino Park's and Mystic Mansions Boss
"Super Sonic" - Beat the Final Story
"Metal Mystery" - Unlock the Final Story
"Super Sonic Racing" - Play 2-Player Racing Mode
"We are ALL Androids!?!" - Use the Metal Skin Cheat in Mulitplayer
"You have a lot of time on your hands" - Unlock every Emblem
"Adventurous Heroes" - Unlock Hard Mode
 

Village

Member
From what I read, the idea that you could vote on the statue was canceled, not the orders themselves.

I think its a bit of both? What i read about this was odd, something isn't happening anymore and some people are grouch about it. I thought there were statues canceled, and then you tell me this, then I google some more and then I see that there statues that may have been voted on and won , that didn't make anything. Something isn't here anymore.

Could just read a post above yours.

I totally saw that.

* reads*

I think imma keep the edgelord colorway.
 

RK128

Member
hey kids


it's finally happening

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thread coming soon.

Yes XD! Looking forward to seeing this classic get more attention :').

Please put this in the OP for a good laugh XD!

Shadow:
"Ow the Edge" - Get the Platinum Trophy
"Explosive Temper" - Use Chaos Blast 20 Times
"Time Hopper" - Use Chaos Control 20 Times
"The Power is MINE!" - Shoot 1000 Bullets when in Chaos Mode
"I see EVERYTHING!" - Have Doom's Eye Follow you in every Dark Mission he's in
"Sayanora, Shadow the Hedgehog" - Turn the game off
"Up Your Arsenal" - Use every weapon in the game
"At the Speed of Sound" - Beat Westopolis in 2 minutes
"Get that DAMN Emerald" - Complete Circus Park Hero Mission
"Cracking that Egg" - Get Dark Ending for Egg Dealer Boss
"Lost In Space" - Spend 40+ Minutes on Lost Impact'
"This is the REAL Ending ;)" - Unlock the Last Story
"What are you Waiting For?" - Spend 15 Minutes during the Final Boss
"Watch Where You're Aiming!" - Shoot a Hero Character when they are following you
"Player 2" - Sync up a second controller and play as the partner character for any stage
"Blue Blur, Huh?" - Beat Sonic in Crazy Gadget
"This isn't Phazner Dragoon..." - Beat The Ark Stage
"That Egg Fleet Really is Final Now" - Beat Dark Mission in Sky Troops
"Karate Chop Action!" - Defeat every version of the Egg Dealer
"I'm Complicated Guys...." - Beat a Hero Mission during Stage 6 of a Pure Dark or Semi-Dark Playthrough
"This is MY Game Sonic" - Beat the Dark Mission & Boss for Final Haunt
"Computer Room Found" - Beat Hero Mission for Comic Fall
"Haunted Chao Garden" - Beat Hero Mission in Cryptic Castle
"Cyber Hacker!" - Beat any Mission in Mad Matrix or Digital Circuit
"Escaping the City" - Beat Westopolis in Story Mode 20 Times
"Opps" - Shoot Gun Troops when Sonic Follows you in Westopolis
"Sorry Doom, my Aiming is Off" - Shooter Black Arms Creatures during Westopolis
"I follow my OWN Rules" - Complete Westopolis Neutral Mission when only having 1 foe left to kill for Hero/Dark Mission
"All Hail Shadow....." - Complete every level in the game with an A Rank
"Live and Learn" - Die 50 times
"Oh God, why?" clear all 326 routes
"Chaotix Confusion" - Beat Hero Missions with Knuckles, Charmy, Espio and Vector
"I'm not Sonic..." - Let Amy follow you in Hero Mission for Cryptic Castle for 4 minutes
"Eggman Empire" - Beat every Dark Mission with Eggman
"My, that is a big gun you have" - Have a gun equipped for the entirety of GUN Fortress
"Killing is not my style" - Beat any stage without killing any foe

Bracing myself to vomit at the idea of Anth0ny preferring Shadow to Colours/Unleashed.

But Colours/Unleashed are better games by a landslide though.....why would anyone prefer Shadow to those games? Shadow is completely 3D (an issue Colors has, being to focused on being 2D) and Shadow has one core gameplay style (unlike Unleashed with the Day/Night levels being completely different gameplay wise), so that are elements Shadow does well. It also fixes some issues Heroes had (better camera control, unique button for lightspeed dashing and rail switching, trails of rings always around even if you collect them), so that is something good Shadow does.

I personally find Shadow to be a 5/10 game; it does a few things right (some levels are fun, fixes over the few issues I had with Heroes, great soundtrack, ect) but it does quite a bit wrong (BS mission structure, horrid story, ect).
 
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