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Sony files are being shared using computer servers owned by Sonys PlayStation Network
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How anyone can trust their data onto Sony is beyond me at this point.
Note: That is the only report so far which brought up the connection. North Korea denied the attack. Normally they claimed responsibility for bragging rights.
Very private data. The hack is multiple times worse than 2011, but not for the customer.
Note: That is the only report so far which brought up the connection. North Korea denied the attack. Normally they claimed responsibility for bragging rights.
Very private data. The hack is multiple times worse than 2011, but not for the customer.
No state claims responsibility for bragging rights...... you deny till the end of time whether evidence is presented against your or not.
State sponsored hacking can be used to do much more harm - you can fuck up water dams, even nuclear power plants depending on the security, operational structure of the plant (which continues to evolve to avoid this) among other things...... it's no joke.
Is there even something they could have done though?
Even Homeland Security is involved and it seems like this is the most devastating hack ever directed at a company on US soil.
If N. Korea really is behind this then they need to learn to take a joke. The movie is a comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's not an act of war.
Muskieratboi
Member
Guys.
North Korea didn't actually DO the hack.
They just asked the Chinese. Duh.
North Korea didn't actually DO the hack.
They just asked the Chinese. Duh.
Yes, you're right. I should have specified. When I saw 2011 style hack I automatically thought of it in terms of the costumers and not the employees. This is much worse for them.
For anyone interested, here is a link from a site I like to read:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/12/sony-breach-may-have-exposed-employee-healthcare-salary-data/
What do you mean "trust their data"?
There is no security breach here as far as we know. No personal info has been revealed.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Maybe Sony knows that the hackers know all the games in the works at world wide studios, so Sony wants to come before the leaks and announce everything at PSX.
Erm, wrong. North Korea did, but not for this. The hacker group Guardians of Peace did, which seems the far more likely scenario.
To quote Sony:
http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-execs-hack-response-employee-memo-2014-12
Oh, I guess that makes it ok.
Be right back, gonna hire an assassin to kill this person I don't like.
Jawmuncher
Member
Not gonna lie, first thing I thought after reading the post
"Where are the video game trailer leaks?"
I can't wait until this weekend.
But I will.
"Where are the video game trailer leaks?"
I can't wait until this weekend.
But I will.
cpp_is_king
Member
They have been tightening up the hatches. Computer security is pretty hard. Especially when you're a big target.
That's the problem: "as far as we know"
And we all know how quick Sony were to let us "know" last time.
Lol why in the hell would you believe North Korea.
Not even a cpl days ago they blamed the U.S. for the Ebola virus
It is about likeliness. This is one of the biggest hacks in history. NK doesn't have the capabilities for that, but till now, they loved to claim responsibility. They denied responsibility. The connection was brought by one single report. On top of that, we have one hacker group claiming responsibility. Lets say NK is unlikely.
North Korea has the capacity to carry out sophisticated hack attacks that your typical hacker group can not. Are they on the same level as the Chinesse, Russians, Germans, U.S? Nope. That does not mean they can't inflict serious damage....
It's weapon these days.
Beg your pardon?
They can create nukes but they don't have the capacity to hack servers in a major scale?
Even Cuba can.
Are you an expert in IT? Or your just posting because? You do know what servers are for right?
Really...tell us more.
I don't understand how Sony has Naughty Dog and SN Systems at their disposal, yet can't figure out how to secure PSN servers.
Is game programming and tools programming that much different from server programming, or is this just how Sony does things when it isn't manufacturing televisions and walkman disc players anymore?
Is game programming and tools programming that much different from server programming, or is this just how Sony does things when it isn't manufacturing televisions and walkman disc players anymore?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mo...ay-be-behind-sony-pictures-hacking-2014-12-01
2013 South Korea
They couldn't deny or confirm a cpl days ago. It's stupid to believe North Korea.
Computer security is different enough from game programming that being good at one won't necessarily be useful in the other. Sony is also more known to be a hardware company and not a software company as we have seen in the past with other issues they have had. What really seems to be the issue is bad communication between different branches, having a constant target on them and not being able to strengthen their defense quick enough
Hexa
Member
Yes. Completely. Like the difference between building a house and car and building a plane. Kind of the same but not really.
How the fuck do you think they managed to get all this info and release a couple movies that haven't hit theaters yet if there wasn't a security breach - even if that was just someone walking out with it all on a HDD.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
It's very different. Being able to build a house doesn't make you a locksmith, no? And often times the vulnerabilities exploited are contained in 3rd party code like libraries or middleware. Don't console games have poor anti-cheat protection too?
RedRooster
Member
They're paying for and giving away too many damn games on PS+ when that money could be going towards better PSN in general. At this point though, I think PSN is a lost cause and they'll just have to nurse it home for the next decade and a half until PlayStation is no more.
at some point you will realize that spe and sne are not same companies/
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
You should present some credibility in the field if you want to question someone, just so you know.
Getting into files servers or other data that hold data files like personal social security information is one thing. These are/should not be the same servers that run games on PSN. In fact they should be secured entirely separate. If the hackers got into Sony Pictures files, and then turned around and are using the PSN servers to host the files, that is a sign they are not secure at all and in fact don't have a handle on things. You would not expect the same servers you are playing games on to also host the company's top secret information, not even close. It's not even same department within Sony.
It really is that simple.
At some point you will realize I never claimed they are the same. But first, notice something about the headline? Sony files are being shared using computer servers owned by Sonys PlayStation Network
Handy Fake
Member
It is still the same parent company, if Sony is to big to have competent security then they should be broken up into smaller pieces.
Beer Monkey
Member
FYI, I don't know if this is a coincidence or not re: the big hack, but I got a call about fraudulent charges to my Sony Rewards Capital One Visa card last week. I cancelled the card instead of getting it replaced, fuck it.
Did anybody else with a Sony Rewards Capital One Visa have an issue?
Did anybody else with a Sony Rewards Capital One Visa have an issue?
Good grief. Sony needs to hire some competent OS guys who knows what they're doing.
And that's why I don't put any of my real information down, especially not my debit card info.
If I want to pay for something, I'll either use prepaid cards instead, or go on Amazon & buy 12 month PS+ subscriptions & PS Store Gift Cards through digital codes.
And that's why I don't put any of my real information down, especially not my debit card info.
If I want to pay for something, I'll either use prepaid cards instead, or go on Amazon & buy 12 month PS+ subscriptions & PS Store Gift Cards through digital codes.
Lots of extremely sensitive personal information has been leaked already, but it's Sony's employees who are suffering this time, not their customers. At least so far.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
I'm talking about PSN.
If the PSN hack wasn't enough for them to get their shit together than nothing will. Also weren't Sony held to some security regulating standards after the PSN Consumer hack? If you can't detect 100TB being copied from your network you have failed at basic security.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
This screams to me disgruntled employee being a cunt / inside hack, rather than a hack from outside.
Any component network should be setup to detect and alert when moving 100TB worth of data across it. Even if it was an inside job 100TB worth of data was copied through their network and no one at Sony noticed.
Didn't they also deny being responsible for hacking into South Korean banks and TV networks last time. I read that hack had similar code to what was used in this attack.
Pretty sure they also denied sinking SK ships and stuff that the rest of the world blame them for as well.
Security is extraordinarily difficult. You can beef up your security but it is all useless when you have humans - all it takes is someone to click on a link or plug in a compromised usb stick.
Regarding this specific hack, there are rumors it may have been an inside job by a disgruntled employee.
Regarding this specific hack, there are rumors it may have been an inside job by a disgruntled employee.
Uhh actually it does, you can't move or copy 100TB worth of data on any network that has any form of competent security without someone noticing. It is obvious they did not learn a thing and have not reformed their Security from the PSN hack.
So glad you know exactly what happened here. Can you tell us how Sony can improve their security since you're such an expert?
Personally I know jack shit about servers and security and firewalls. That's why I don't go around acting like I know better than Sonys security team.
All I know is that Sony is the victim here. If there was a lack of security due to Sony being cheap or something, I'm sure we'll find out. So let's hold off on accusing Sony of incompetence for a little while longer and wait and see how this turns out.