timetokill
Banned
Hey now... let's give it a fair shot. Yes, it looks terrible, but it could end up being fun. We'll find out soon enough.
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Sony introduces "Smart As...." for PSVita
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Hey now... let's give it a fair shot. Yes, it looks terrible, but it could end up being fun. We'll find out soon enough.
jump_button
Banned
sounds like i was right to me but really Dont try and say it something new when it not, Same with this game
not saying its a bad thing just not for me
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think that anyone have said that it is something completely new, at least from what i have seen. There is no doubt that Battle Royale is heavily inspired by Smash Bros, but it is not a re-skin of Smash Bros as first claimed. It just looks like that at first glance.
The dynamic of the gameplay has a lot to say. It is similar to compare i.e an arcade racer to a simulation racer. Both games are about driving, but the dynamic/feel in the driving is very different between the two.
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
They can but how many times have those Sony 'copy cat' type titles actually been better or unique compared to what else is on the market? I can't really think of anything and I'm not trying to be mean, but I really can't think of anything.
Depends which you're referring to. ModNation had Play, Create, Share, which worked quite well. PSASBR seems to do a bit different, but it's up in the air if it will be good or not.
Agent X
Member
Good question, which I think Metalmurphy addressed well with his response.
I agree. Even if the game could be modified so that it doesn't rely on the Vita touch/tilt functions so much (and some of the activities probably could), one of the points here is that the Vita needs exclusive games that you aren't going to get on the other systems.
If they put the game out on PS3 as well, then you'd have detractors coming in here shouting how "the Vita can't get any exclusives" and "everything's a port" and "no need to play the game on a portable when I can just play it on a home console instead".
On a related note, I'm amazed how many people here are up in arms about how Sony should dare to release any kind of educational game. For the last 6 years, we heard constant hornblowing from Nintendo fans about the runaway success of the DS, and catering to expanded markets, and "blue ocean strategy". At the same time, they lambasted Sony, casting them as narrow-sighted for not doing anything similar to appeal to casual gamers and jaded gamers. So Sony finally decides they want to make an entry in this genre, and people are still finding excuses to complain about it? I tell you, there's just no pleasing some people.
test_account
XP-39C²
On top of my head:
Killzone 2 with Warzone mode. Instead of just having the standard and seperate modes like team death match, capture the flag and domination, Killzone 2's Warzone mode have all these things in one single match.
MAG, with 256 players at the same time.
The Gran Turismo games are pretty much a benchmark for console driving simulators.
Little Big Planet and Modnation Racers. Dont think i have to say much about this. Creating your own stuff is not something completely new of course, but it is definitelly not standard in these genres.
Infamous 2, there you could create your own missions and share them with others.
All Uncharted and God of War games are top-tier in their genre, in my opinion.
And then you have all the more unique stuff like Journey, Flower and Flow etc..
There are probably more things, but these are what i remember right now.
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, they've definitely had some that are good successes. I mean in general I look at things like Home and Move and wonder what Sony was planning to do? I mean Move is basically left to die despite it having potential, Home I think hasn't really even taken off much.
I feel like they try to do what everyone else is doing instead of focusing on something they can do really well in.
Heh, it's always packed to the brim with people and makes a healthy amount of money, i think.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the post says it's being produced by XDev Europe. The function of XDev is to publish games from external independent studios. So yeah, they're publishing the game, but Sony themselves isn't even making the game. Does that still mean Sony needs to be attacked for being copy cats? You people are absurd.
airmangataosenai
Member
I like the implication that no one's allowed to make Blue Ocean software because Nintendo "Invented" it.
Yeah, this is pretty much a real-life "Simpsons Did It!" moment.
Edit: And then it turns out it's not even a Sony game? Never change Nintendo fans.
Yeah, this is pretty much a real-life "Simpsons Did It!" moment.
Edit: And then it turns out it's not even a Sony game? Never change Nintendo fans.
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
I wouldn't say they aren't allowed to create similar titles, however I think Sony should do more than they usually do, as I feel like the similar titles don't do enough to stand above what's on the market. It should be encouraged for companies to be competitive and make similar titles, however like I mentioned above I haven't really seen examples to me that feel like they've improved upon what's already on the market or do enough to differentiate themselves.
As someone already mentioned, there are a few examples like the Media Molecule titles - but the others to me don't really feel like they do enough to be different or 'better'.
Dash Kappei
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SuperSonic1305
Member
Nintendo should copy Naughty Dog and make the best kart racer of all time.
No one reads the first post, No one
SuperSonic1305
Member
Holy shit
Don'tBeWeird
Member
Laughable. Utterly laughable. Good job, Nintendo fanboys, once again.
bigtroyjon
Member
Publishers like Sony commission independent devs to make games for them all the time. Sony did a lot of it early in the PS3's life with stuff like Lair.
Doesn't seem like we really know enough info at the moment which elevates the hilarity level in this thread even higher. Especially the couple of posters who made post after post defending Sony's honor when they didn't even need to!
Baconsammy
Banned
Screw Brain Age. Big Brain Academy was more fun.
I don't think we know that yet, whether Sony is making the game or not together with another studio. XDev is much more than just a publisher. XDev is part of Sony Liverpool and aside from publishing and marketing games, they actually provide full game production, project management and game design support. So it's likely they are making the game in conjunction with another studio, but the original idea might not come from Sony themselves, but the blog post doesn't say. What we do know is the game's assistant producer is from SCEA.
I don't care either way, the more games for Vita, the better.
outunderthestars
Banned
Every dollar Sony wasted on this POS is a dollar that could have funded an Ape Escape game for the Vita....
that's what pisses me off, so many awesome, distinct franchises and they settle for this kind of thing... how I miss ps1/ps2 days Sony....
AgentChris
Member
This thread...
A game being made in Europe probably has roughly 0 bearing on an Ape Escape game which would be made in Japan.
outunderthestars
Banned
Sony doesn't have an unlimited budget for funding game development. Wasting money and things like a Brain Age rip off certainly has some bearing on other potential game projects...
That is absolutely fucking right. :/
Original Sony is Best Sony. This is neither original nor best.
Really, I hate all you fucking fanboys. Bickering, bitching, and bullshit is the only thing they are good for. (Not directed at you lol)
This project sucks ass, just as much as Ono Training or whatever from Nintendo. But, I'm not the target audience for this stuff so whatever.
But SCEE and SCEJ operate almost completely independently from one another. Not making this would just mean making a different game in SCEE, probably.
Nothing changed, you are right, Nintendo fans just forgot about it and moved on, but now they remembered the game's existence (you know, since the care so much about Sony) and are making their second wave of attack.
They probably haven't been in the thread since it doesn't have such a curious title like "Smart as..." which most will see it as Smart Ass (and that's the intention) but now that you've mentioned it, we might see a swarm of them going there *shakes fist at you*
Father_Brain
Banned
This is GAF.
Anyway, this game is clearly inspired by Brain Age. That doesn't make it a clone, it doesn't look like a clone, and I don't really understand why some people are so offended by its existence.
Attack by who? It's just another four player coop game. I imagine Sony faithful have been thirsty for that sort of thing on the Vita.
outunderthestars
Banned
Soul Sacrifice looks like a game that Vita owners would actually buy. Smart As looks like something created based on a marketing dept. meeting and is a complete waste of resources.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
because the name is better
Yes, it's inspired by Brain Age. Who gives a shit? By now it's been imitated by so many that you could call the brain training game concept a genre. It's not something that Nintendo have any exclusive rights to. As always, competition breeds innovation. If no-one else produced these games, there'd be less incentive for Nintendo to greatly improve on the formula in their following games, like Demon Training. Furthermore, any innovations other developers introduce to the formula can become standardised and eventually end up being used by Nintendo, too. That's how it works.
The same applies for All Stars Battle Royale.
For all the claims in this thread that other games in this genre predate Brain Training, I've yet to see one named.
The same applies for All Stars Battle Royale.
...such as? As I understand it, Brain Training was quite a revolutionary piece of software. Nintendo had to work hard to convince Japanese retailers to carry it because it was an unproven concept, but on release it became a sleeper phenomenon.
For all the claims in this thread that other games in this genre predate Brain Training, I've yet to see one named.
Brain Training is really nothing like The Incredible Machine.
This is a bit disingenuous. The device in that video would not be able to control Sports Champions, or an FPS. Move is based on that technology, but its design evolution to the final form does appear to have been inspired by the Wii remote.
Metalmurphy
Member
It's a game with a series of puzzles that make you use ur brain. It's in the same genre. Its not the exact same formula but i only mentioned it because it was a really successful one.
Why? Because of the motion sensors? They've existed in controllers long before the Wii. Did you miss the part where he was controlling weapons ala Sports Champions btw? The core of the move is whats in that video. The motion sensors are to the move what wii motion plus is to the wand. Unless you wanna imply sony copied that too.
