You're right, it is strange how they made that distinction last night but are jumping in now. Personally, I don't really care and prefer the game to have proper Sony funding instead of the $10 or whatever it would have gotten off Kickstarter. Now I think we can expect a budget of $20-30 million. The Witcher 3 cost $35 million to develop so this should be good for everyone. What they did is still weird though.
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Sony is officially helping with funding and development with Shenmue 3
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You're right, it is strange how they made that distinction last night but are jumping in now. Personally, I don't really care and prefer the game to have proper Sony funding instead of the $10 or whatever it would have gotten off Kickstarter. Now I think we can expect a budget of $20-30 million. The Witcher 3 cost $35 million to develop so this should be good for everyone. What they did is still weird though.
Kickstarter is just a marketing stunt for a lot of projects. It's also a convenient excuse to get hundreds or perhaps thousands of dollars out of whale-fans while delivering them relatively little in return.
The recent Pebble Time Kickstarter was probably the most transparent marketing/pre-order stunt I can recall.
Pathfinder
Member
Oi, it's getting to be a person can't have an opposing opinion around here without being labeled a fanboy.
Ho hum.
Aenima
Member
Sega have licence of Shenmue 1 and 2, they gave Shenmue 3 licence to Yu Suzuki. Basicacly it looks like Sega told, nah we are not funding that so take the lincense and try it your luck elsewhere.
Of course it does.
The interest rate in the US is barely above zero, so I think people will cope somehow.
Time does weird things. Nobody wanted to fund Shenmue, not even Sega, to the point they let Yu use the IP if he can get funding.....and here we are.
Sony said it was the most requested 3rd party game series for Playstation, and they actually listened!
Shenmue has a special place in my heart, but then then there is the long diehards who never gave up, a piece of ourselves, this is how anyone who loved Shenmue at least one time in their life must have felt before fighting back tears of joy:
Seriously, holy shit, Shenmue 3 is actually happening guys and it still all feels like a dream.
Yeah bro. It's incredible for sure. Sony actually listen its fans. May their good will repay them with a lot of fortune.
MassiveNights
Banned
I know right?
It went from being what we were told was 'niche' and with 'crazy fans' to basically the biggest news in gaming.
This is the way I see it.
35,000 people contributed to the Kickstarter campaign. This essentially means that there are at least that amount of people willing to buy the game. That in addition to the growing user base of the ps4, you end up with a formula that if 5% of the ps4 user base purchases the game, ensures the development is worth it.
It's either that, or no game at all.
Arkam
Member
Only a child (not a bright one) would call that manipulation. This was pretty obvious immediately what was happening.
Sony did good, deal with it.
People have 31 days to react to this "manipulation" if they wish to do so. I'm only seeing the counter going up.
This argument is ridiculous. 90% of games presented are shown by the devs involved, and not the publisher behind it.
Just looking at the sales, I can understand why people might think that it wouldn't have enough fan support or be popular enough for a third entry. However, Sega should have looked beyond the sales because the Shenmue hype went way past that. Shenmue joined The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy Versus XIII and Final Fantasy VII remake as one of the most requested games on the internet (Shenmue was probably first). I can't believe it took this long for this to happen.
It is not a great conspiracy. Just a conspiracy.
Sony owned Amplitude yet still had the developers run through a Kickstarter. At least that Kickstarter page explained that Sony owned the IP so that is why it had to be exclusive to Playstation.
It takes more than having an opposing opinion.
manzoman96
Member
So it's similar to the bayonetta 2 situation.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
They should do another show after the E3 conference, with just Kickstarter starters. Skies of Arcadia, Shadowman, Turok... we control our own destiny now.
FF Seraphim
Member
Time does weird things. Nobody wanted to fund Shenmue, not even Sega, to the point they let Yu use the IP if he can get funding.....and here we are.
Sony said it was the most requested 3rd party game series for Playstation, and they actually listened!
Shenmue has a special place in my heart, but then then there is the long diehards who never gave up, a piece of ourselves, this is how anyone who loved Shenmue at least one time in their life must have felt before fighting back tears of joy:
Seriously, holy shit, Shenmue 3 is actually happening guys and it still all feels like a dream.
Wait most requested? More so than FF7 remake?
Did this get linked yet? Adam Boyes talking to gamespot about Shenmue deal/kickstarter thingy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGlVDi3FHQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
Credit to Shinobi twitter xd
edit : nvm Im late
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGlVDi3FHQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
Credit to Shinobi twitter xd
edit : nvm Im late
Simo
Member
I thought Shenmue used licensed technology from a company that folded that Sega can't remember who that was and thus was an issue for remasters?
I'd love for a re-release though. I have my original copies but no Dreamcast console. lol
boredandlazy
Member
Of course they can.
But as far as I'm concerned you had that label before you made the comment, hence the suspicion.
Wait...you are saying Sony was like *nudge nudge* "Hey Hamonix, but up a Kickstarter for a new Amplitude so we can get as much money from these fools as possible before we completely fund your game for you, because we were obviously going to do that from the very beginning."
Jesus Christ.
If it was obvious the Shenmue Kickstarter thread wouldn't be filled with people claiming Sony had no involvement from the starter.
Also resorting to calling me an unbright child. How uncouth of you sir.
I don't have a problem with the Amplitude Kickstarter because they were upfront and transparent about the situation. Is Shenmue had the same thing and from the beginning Sony was involved then most of the pages of this thread wouldn't exist.
Acquiescence
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It's nice that I can talk about the future of Shenmue now without being met with a barrage of posts stating why it's never going to happen and how dead it is.
Elfforkusu
Member
Good to have confirmation. (not that it was in doubt)
Hopefully Sony matches two dollars for every KS dollar! $30m budget here we come!
Hopefully Sony matches two dollars for every KS dollar! $30m budget here we come!
You are mistaking the "hard core" with the casual. "The casual" are the ones in majority but often not heard. Also, didn't II need to sell like 18m to break even? Anyway, it didn't even come close to break even.
heh, asked in a Fast Racing Neo thread if it was exclusive to Wii U, I always assume indies are coming to PC as well, and people got really up in arms for those 3 words, "Exclusive to WiiU?"
Perhaps. I can't be certain but I suspect that that is happening to some extent. It's incidental to this though. What matters is that the game is being funded, Yu Suzuki is directing it with full creative freedom limited only by its budget and that people kickstarting this game will get a game at the end.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Well duh their certainly not going to make the game on a budget of $2 million lol
It is interest free until you actually get the game so until then it is an interest free loan. Because other investors or banks would require a return on their money in addition to the principal amount.
The interest of fun and excitement of a new Shenmue game are probably worth it. But monetarily it is an interest free loan.
CheDominik
Member
First of all Sony isn't seeing a penny from this kickstarter.
I upped my pledge to $100 after reading this thread just out of spite. So if Yu Suzuki is able to buy a twinkie because of the interest my 100 bucks generated in 2 years, I'm glad to help out.
A track record?
goldenpp72
Member
I hope this is sarcasm, it's becoming hard to tell today.
Sony doesn't have anything to do with the Shenmue Kickstarter though. If you're making a pledge, not a cent of it is going to go to Sony. Instead, they're financing the game after the Kickstarter is completed. While you may not appreciate the distinction, it makes a lot of difference legally, and it would be wrong to create a wrong impression. Moreover, Boyes isn't going on stage to make any promises Sony may not be willing to fulfill.
Mushroomer25
Member
Still, the Kickstarter was sold (by Sony themselves) as something they were 'not attached to at all'. Less than 12 hours later, when it hit the target - that's when they suddenly revealed that they were onboard. That's a classic bait and switch. Do most people care? Of course not. They'll keep tossing cash at this thing.
I just think it's kind of a scummy move on Sony's part.
The Shenmue Kickstarter said plainly: "If we do not reach our funding goal, Shenmue 3 will not go forward."
That is all that matters. If this had failed, it wasn't like Sony was going to say "Syke, we are going to fully fund this project and it was all a big lie to grab your monies for an interest free loan! MUHAHAHA"
mohsinkhan
Member
I don't think you understand.
HORRORSHØW
Member
nope. going to bitch about it on a message board. hell, i'm going to bitch about it even though i have no interest in the game and never had any intention of backing it.
ThomasAnderson
Member
Can't wait to finally get my hands on Lan Di
You had your chance.
THAT never happened, it needs to be done for real this time, and I would back it with the force of a thousand video vixen silicon butts hitting the ocean in unison.
Pathfinder
Member
Heh, alright. The witchhunt has started, so I'm out.
Ya'll enjoy.
It helps protect their invesment so they kind of are. Also glad your hatred for other opinions could help you give more money to the kickstarter.
What do I have to do make you hate me so much that you to donate to a food bank? Perhaps ravage Microsoft for a $40 remake?
shinobi602
Member
2 days ago: "LOL, everyone knows no pub wants to fund another Shenmue game, there's just not enough customers to justify the risk. It's a dead in the water IP people, let it go."
Now: "Did people really think there wasn't a lot of demand for Shenmue 3? It's fucking Shenmue 3! Sony could have easily funded it. Shady and scummy if you ask me."
Now: "Did people really think there wasn't a lot of demand for Shenmue 3? It's fucking Shenmue 3! Sony could have easily funded it. Shady and scummy if you ask me."
Arkam
Member
I actually did not call you anything as I supremely doubt you believe that even and are just mildly upset right now and acting irrational. Its ok you will calm down and laugh about it all later
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