Very true. Didn't it sell something like 150,000 copies or something terrible like that?
That game deserved so much more love than it got
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Sony's Destiny to never make another FPS again
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Very true. Didn't it sell something like 150,000 copies or something terrible like that?
That game deserved so much more love than it got
RandyBobandy
Banned
Is that you talking or the liquor?
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
The Destiny demo is a good idea but I wouldn't overblow the significance. Plenty of people are immune to its addictiveness.
And I think the Resistance games are a pretty decent FPS series from the Half-Life school of game design. I don't care for Killzone but there's no reason why Sony couldn't find another team to take a crack at it. I don't really see the problem.
And I think the Resistance games are a pretty decent FPS series from the Half-Life school of game design. I don't care for Killzone but there's no reason why Sony couldn't find another team to take a crack at it. I don't really see the problem.
Kill zone series is horrible, I will never play another guerilla games shooter ever. The series is just garbage imo, nothing but a glorified tech demo that plays like crap.
I'm sorry but I have very strong negative feelings to that atrocious game series.
Resistance on the other hand imo is a lot of fun
I guess I understand the title?
It was smart for Sony to go ahead and associate themselves with the Destiny franchise. Even though both Killzone & Resistance were solid FPS games in their own right, neither of them are going to match up to the giants of Call of Duty & Halo, even if both are waning right now. Even though the game was multiplatform, having a brand association will sell a whole lot of hardware, as the Destiny bundle clearly did.
It was smart for Sony to go ahead and associate themselves with the Destiny franchise. Even though both Killzone & Resistance were solid FPS games in their own right, neither of them are going to match up to the giants of Call of Duty & Halo, even if both are waning right now. Even though the game was multiplatform, having a brand association will sell a whole lot of hardware, as the Destiny bundle clearly did.
KennyLinder
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Killzone 2 and Mercenary are fucking amazing shooters.
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
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When a developer makes a really good and loved game that does not give them the royal privilege to make any game good or as good as their former one, although i admit they have better chances than an unknown or out-of-genre developer.
Nothing is a safe bet.
We should want more developers -known or new- doing their stuff, working their talent, experiment with new ideas and playstyles and, in the end, time will tell who's done well and who didn't and why, imho.
Nothing is a safe bet.
We should want more developers -known or new- doing their stuff, working their talent, experiment with new ideas and playstyles and, in the end, time will tell who's done well and who didn't and why, imho.
MastaKilla
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I would take a real Socom game over destiny a millions times over
Cave Johnson
Member
Definitely. What are you on about OP?
SniperHunter
Banned
I really enjoyed Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 to be honest, didn't like destiny as much
I think Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to nail down the genre"
Killzone 2 was really on the spot. Solo and Mulitplayer alike. Mercenaries was imho severely underestimated (I blame the Vita ^^) and really a nice take on the genre. The Resistance series was actually quite good in the end. Probably not GOTYs materials, but we do need more than one game per year don't we ?
"I don't see why they need to waste money on making more of them"
They are not the best at FPSs so they should just give up... ? Nevermind that there are players that actually love their games. Or that they could actually end up doing something phenomenal (like Killzone 2 was imo). They got a multi allegedly doing things a bit better (I am not seeing that from critics or from players but that's another issue), so they should give up all first party effort ?
"I am so glad the SSM project was cancelled"
How the hell can you say that ? Santa Monica has created a BTA, so they can't do a FPS ? What on earth are you smoking...
Sony may have done a smart move by associating their brand with Destiny - although the bad reception from the press and a good number of players render that statement not as obvious as you seem to put it. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do something else. They got really talented studios that can produce reals gems.
I am personally looking forward to see what Guerilla Cambridge can bring to the PS4.
Killzone 2 was really on the spot. Solo and Mulitplayer alike. Mercenaries was imho severely underestimated (I blame the Vita ^^) and really a nice take on the genre. The Resistance series was actually quite good in the end. Probably not GOTYs materials, but we do need more than one game per year don't we ?
"I don't see why they need to waste money on making more of them"
They are not the best at FPSs so they should just give up... ? Nevermind that there are players that actually love their games. Or that they could actually end up doing something phenomenal (like Killzone 2 was imo). They got a multi allegedly doing things a bit better (I am not seeing that from critics or from players but that's another issue), so they should give up all first party effort ?
"I am so glad the SSM project was cancelled"
How the hell can you say that ? Santa Monica has created a BTA, so they can't do a FPS ? What on earth are you smoking...
Sony may have done a smart move by associating their brand with Destiny - although the bad reception from the press and a good number of players render that statement not as obvious as you seem to put it. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to do something else. They got really talented studios that can produce reals gems.
I am personally looking forward to see what Guerilla Cambridge can bring to the PS4.
Yup.
FaintColt388301
Member
Yeah, Sony shouldn't make any more FPS's and just let the third parties do it. That sounds like a great idea.
I'd rather have B tier exclusive shooters than none. Why would you think this is a good idea?
I'd rather have B tier exclusive shooters than none. Why would you think this is a good idea?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
The first Modern Warfare and every numbered Gears game. No one will remember Resistance or Killzone. Gears was probably the first "Next-Gen" moment of last gen and MW changed the entire FPS genre for a while.
Nocturno999
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Mayor_McCheeze
Member
First post nails it. Killzone 2 and Resistance 3 were both brilliant.
Uhm... no...
No, it doesn't. Especially when Resistance wipes the floor with what Destiny has come out with. I've no love for Killzone, but godammit, it will be a sad day if Resistance 4 never happens or at least that team makes a new FPS.
If anything, I'm still waiting for a good FPS to wash the Destiny taste outta my mouth. People keep raving about Wolfenstein, so I may jump on that.
geordiemp
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None of the first parties are leaders in the FPS genre.
Bungie are now third party, look what happened to MCC.
Gears is third person, crackdown is 3rd person.
Resistance and Killzone are OK, last killzone was the worst.
Order, TLOU and uncharted are third person.
Planetside 2 is FPS.
All other notable FPS are really 3rd party.
That's OK though, with COD and Battlefield and soon Battlefront will probably dominate the genre, so its up to first party to fill the gaps in what people want to play.
Nintendo don't really play in FPS genre at all.
Bungie are now third party, look what happened to MCC.
Gears is third person, crackdown is 3rd person.
Resistance and Killzone are OK, last killzone was the worst.
Order, TLOU and uncharted are third person.
Planetside 2 is FPS.
All other notable FPS are really 3rd party.
That's OK though, with COD and Battlefield and soon Battlefront will probably dominate the genre, so its up to first party to fill the gaps in what people want to play.
Nintendo don't really play in FPS genre at all.
"You know Shuhei... we really are the last of us."
Bandis.......... I am the liquor.
Gears is TPS, really a different genre...
And Modern Warfare doesn't change the fact that Killzone 2 and Resistance 3 were awesome too... does it ?
This guy's rambling doesn't make any sense.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Fine Ham Abounds
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You should have known that was destined to be missed
OP has given everyone propane, propane
to start the flaaaame
DustyVonEric
Member
I'm guessing Sony likes to make money. And although KZ isn't for everyone, the series has it's fans. And KZ must be profitable, because they made four of them.
Further more, just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
Further more, just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
silvermember
Banned
Can I get a hit?
Why bother when all they end up with is generic fps clones that are only appreciated by a minority and even they will be better served by 3rd parties(if it's not beneath them). Sony are far better in other genres, let 3rd parties handle fps so they can work on quality stuff.
hobblygobbly
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PrivateRyan
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I thought the title was confusing but then I read the actual post.
Violence Jack
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Weren't all three Resistance games pretty much universally praised by gamers and critics?
FonkyByNature
Member
Hmmm, Sony didn't manage their shooters the right way last gen but to me, Killzone 2 and Resistance 3 were some of the best shooters i've played. Multiplayer in Killzone 2 was freakin amazing.
I was exited for Killzone Shadow Fall because i heard that the guy from Killzone 2 was working on it. Well the game didn't turn out to be as good as i hoped. Killzone 2 had personality, Shadow Fall ? not so much.
Destiny is a great grab for Sony but i wish they gave the genre another try with something that is different that what we have on the market. Another game like Killzone 2 would be great imo.
I was exited for Killzone Shadow Fall because i heard that the guy from Killzone 2 was working on it. Well the game didn't turn out to be as good as i hoped. Killzone 2 had personality, Shadow Fall ? not so much.
Destiny is a great grab for Sony but i wish they gave the genre another try with something that is different that what we have on the market. Another game like Killzone 2 would be great imo.
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