Patrick Bateman
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I never said that I'd expect CoD to be a launch title on the PSP2, but my guess is that it would work better there than on the 3DS, considering the specs of the PSP2.
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kitchenmotors
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Baki said:
And did that help other PSP software or hardware numbers? No, I just think acting like a COD game being the savior of the PSP2 is amusing.
Father_Brain
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Patrick Bateman said:
Oh, CoD for PSP2 (and 3DS) is all but guaranteed. But "would make it sell bazillions?" Come on. PSP's Western performance demonstrates pretty well that faithful renditions of console franchises alone will only do so much for a handheld's viability.
(note: this does not mean that said renditions won't sell, or that PSP2 having them is inherently a bad thing, but PSP1 would seem to prove that they are not a sufficient foundation for a healthy software ecosystem)
BladeoftheImmortal
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Unknown One
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How can it be the savior when it's not even out yet?
Rhazer Fusion
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Gravijah said:
You are probably right. I was also thinking about $399. Imo, a portable device with similar power being as expensive or more expensive than PS3 is just wrong.
StealthGoblin
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Baki said:
Links broken for me.
kitchenmotors
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Crakatak187 said:
This entire thread is based on speculation, so in the end, it doesn't really matter. I'm just very cynical when it comes to Sony and handhelds, especially being burned by the way they handled the PSP go.
Baki
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Would people really play Call of Duty on a portable? Are we talking the single player campaigns somehow being a huge motivator, or people screaming at their teammates while in a restaurant? I'm open to the possibility it could sell, but I'm having trouble seeing why.
Kids playing during their lunch hour at school maybe?
somuchwater
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kitchenmotors said:
The difference with a COD games is that they're focused on MP, which means an ongoing community, which means word-of-mouth marketing, which means network effects.
If it's done right, this theoretical COD game could be pretty big. Not only might in become a system seller, it'd probably help in (re?)asserting the link b/w the PS brand and MP gaming, which right now is obviously owned by Microsoft.
Edit: What I mean is this: there's obviously a HUGE market for 'hardcore' MP FPS experiences. If Sony can say "yeah, well, our portable device can give you that on the go", then I think that'll be pretty compelling for the COD demographic.
StealthGoblin
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Baki said:
As the PS2 port was released in 2006, that number will include the PS2 port. Combined PSP (~6.3 million) and PS2 (~3.3 million) sales are around 9.5 million.
I think it would definitely be a worthwhile endevaour for Rockstar Leeds to get a PSP2 GTA out there early on.
Sipowicz said:
gofreak was saying they've had devkits for a while, and possibly even delayed the launch once.
Maybe the genius of PSP2 will be that they hold off for a year which lets them cost engineer inhouse, keeping the retail price down, and also having great games due to giving developers time.
Of course, all that would require insane secrecy so it's impossible
H_Prestige
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mrklaw said:
Well, psp2 rumors have been afloat since 2009.
Unknown One
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Just get the PSP2 at a decent price and bring on the games really. PSP hardly had any blockbuster games, it was mainly console ports/spinoff and shovelware.
Unknown One
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It sold well over 50 million and with that argument the Xbox 360 would have been a flop, which it isn't.
Father_Brain said:
PSP had no "faithful renditions" of FPSs. One sucky analog stick made sure of that. I´m not sure if the 3DS will convince most console shooter players to go portable, either, with touchscreen aiming and all. People used to twin sticks want twin sticks, because change is evil
I personally don´t care for CoD, but a port of BC2, pleeeease, EA. You like money, don´t you?
Regarding price: 300 dollar/ aka 299,99
I´d bet my "member" tag on it.
No way Sony would be aiming for anything higher and the 3DS price is a probably a flawed comparison with a huge built in profit for Nintendo and a decent profit for retail. Nobody really knows what parts Sony will be using or how much those parts are going to cost Sony at their initial production scale, but I can´t imagine Sony planning hardware that would cost more than 300$ wih a tiny/moderate profit and a decent retailer profit even WITH the shitty yen conversion rate.
PS: And MG Ac!!!d (and Uncharted Portable) would make a 300 price bearable.
Nick Laslett
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I do love my PSPs, I've had one since the Japanese lauch. Never regretted the purchase and have had tremendous value out of them. My two kids play theirs all the time.
I think the addition of dual analogue sticks will be the real thing that sets the PSP2 apart. Think of how attractive COD will be on a portable with no control compromises and online cross platform (PS3) play.
The back touchpad sounds like it covers the other control deficiencies of the PSP.
I'm sure it will have HDMI and keep the sixaxis compatiblity.
3G is the other thing the device has too have.
If all of these are covered I can see the PSP2 being the goto choice of the hardcore gamer.
I would like to see PS2 compatibility for the device. It would add another dimension to the PSN Store if you had PSOne, PSP, Minis, PSP2 and PS2 games available for download.
This seems extremely unlikely, not only are PS2 difficult to emulate, but Sony has discovered the HD refresh market which seems even more lucrative.
Being able to play downloaded PS2 titles on the PSP2 would be cool assuming there are dual analogues.
I think the addition of dual analogue sticks will be the real thing that sets the PSP2 apart. Think of how attractive COD will be on a portable with no control compromises and online cross platform (PS3) play.
The back touchpad sounds like it covers the other control deficiencies of the PSP.
I'm sure it will have HDMI and keep the sixaxis compatiblity.
3G is the other thing the device has too have.
If all of these are covered I can see the PSP2 being the goto choice of the hardcore gamer.
I would like to see PS2 compatibility for the device. It would add another dimension to the PSN Store if you had PSOne, PSP, Minis, PSP2 and PS2 games available for download.
This seems extremely unlikely, not only are PS2 difficult to emulate, but Sony has discovered the HD refresh market which seems even more lucrative.
Being able to play downloaded PS2 titles on the PSP2 would be cool assuming there are dual analogues.
CoD on PSP is garbage. If PSP2 is capable of running a decent looking CoD at 60fps with twin stick controls and solid online implementation, even if the game is on 3DS as well, it'll essentially be the only portable CoD that matters. The impact of a defacto exclusive portable CoD will have is to be seen.
Father_Brain
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Bear in mind that when you're talking about console-style ground-up PSP2 exclusives, you're talking about a single SKU with - assuming the rumored specs aren't too exaggerated - something close to a PS3/360 budget, but which will be selling to a smaller potential audience than either the combined PS3/360 base or (almost certainly) 3DS' base. In approaching PSP2, publishers will have several arguably less risky options than that which they can pursue: graphically enhanced 3DS ports, downgraded HD ports, and smaller-scale spinoffs of HD titles that use mainly recycled HD assets.
Unless Sony is willing to spend truly enormous sums on moneyhats, I don't see how this won't be a huge obstacle to getting exclusive third-party support... of the type that people in this thread are most excited about, anyway.
Unless Sony is willing to spend truly enormous sums on moneyhats, I don't see how this won't be a huge obstacle to getting exclusive third-party support... of the type that people in this thread are most excited about, anyway.
It'll be interesting. It'll also be interesting to see if MH takes off better in the west. It is a punishing experience on the current PSP. If PSP2 is nice to hold and has two sticks, I think people will be more welcoming of things like MH on there.Man said:
I always hear that a lot of Japanese people struggle with FPSs, but there are a few high profile Japanese developers who play them so I'm not sure how common it is.
Spiegel said:
Indeed it is, indeed it is. Within the first two years though I do expect at least one handheld title from every first party Sony has and also the standard FIFA, COD etc. Probably reading too much into this but it's possible that Uncharted for PSP2 will be a launch title or near enough because ND are busy with Uncharted 3 and another team is making the portable title. Keep saying it but it's what I believe and that is the PSP2 success or failure depends on the kind of support Sony first/second party give it. PSP was left to die once the PS3 came out and Sony first party had to bail on PSP because PS3 tanked so badly and it needed some serious life support. If all the first parties contribute within the first two years I can't see the PSP2 doing badly at all. A KH game on PSP2 is nothing less than a certainty; it's of SE best interest to ensure the PSP2 and 3DS do well because their predecessors have made them lots of monay. Oh yeah Sony drop on all fours and do whatever Capcom want for a Monster Hunter game, no hyperbole at all in saying that a launch Monster Hunter title for the PSP2 will ensure it starts well in Japan.
Unknown One
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Off topic: I was disappointed when I seen the 3DS. It looked almost exactly like the DS.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm sure it's for branding purposes, they wanna milk it for as long as possible. I bet the PSP2 looks the same or really similar as well.Crakatak187 said:
Father_Brain
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KingDizzi said:
This is an odd thing to assume, considering that all we know about the future of KH on handhelds is that S-E assigned the Birth by Sleep team to a 3DS-exclusive title.
...not to say that it won't happen, but there's no basis for calling it a certainty right now.
EDIT: I had a feeling I was forgetting something when I made this post. We'll see what BbS Vol. 2 turns out to be, then.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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StuBurns said:
Who will develop it? Because .hand is pretty terrible and I think that's the only KH team that's available.
BlazingDarkness
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Father_Brain said:
High(er) spec handheld than the 3DS? Definitely will see some KH/FF titles
Unknown One
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That's why you get a screen protector.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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BlazingDarkness said:
I could see FFXIII-2 having a PSP2 version.
electroshockwave
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One thing that bothered me about TPS and FPS on the PSP is that they didn't really seem to be made with the PSP's design in mind and just seemed to try to translate current console shooters to a system with one analog. FPS games like Goldeneye worked on a system with one analog because they were designed that way. They could have used a lock on system like Metroid Prime and that could have worked well. A third person shooter in the style of RE4 would have also worked great and I would have found these a lot more preferable to using the buttons for turning and camera control.
I really like this design, although I would probably swap the position of the right analog and the buttons. I think that layout would be more comfortable for most games while the current design mainly favours FPS.
plainr_ said:
I really like this design, although I would probably swap the position of the right analog and the buttons. I think that layout would be more comfortable for most games while the current design mainly favours FPS.
ClovingWestbrook
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plainr_ said:Here is my photoshop of the PSP2:
I like the PSP Go's design but I'd much rather have it a bit less curvier like this.
Amazing. Wow. Beauuuuuuuuutiful.