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Soulcalibur IV Official Thread

twinturbo2 said:
Maybe not for you, but that Taki clone is having no problem with everything I throw at her.

UC1 said:
This is where I'm stuck. I always get to Astaroth and then run out of time.

Requoting myself for emphasis:

radiantdreamer said:
To defeat Taki Clone, Zasalamel and Astaroth Clone floor

Create superbuff characters using Gorgon armor. Clone them twice.

Have them all use Yun Seong style

Spam Guard Break attack. They will block or eat it.

Critical Finish.

Repeat this floor and apply this method to achieve Critical Finish honor.
 
radiantdreamer said:
Requoting myself for emphasis:

Got it thanks to your help! I changed it a bit, went in with Yoshi, Yunseong and Astaroth, and spammed 66A+B with Yoshi, 6BB with Yunseong and 1[A]B with Astaroth. Got critical finishers on every character and it was much easier!

btw it was definitely the floor I was referring to, the Gold Taki, White Zasalamel and Gold Astaroth.
 
Just finished Ascending. yeah the stage with Taki, Zasalamel and Astaroth was definitely the hardest, but not that hard really. Also decended 31 floors, does that have an ending?
 
UC1 said:
Just finished Ascending. yeah the stage with Taki, Zasalamel and Astaroth was definitely the hardest, but not that hard really. Also decended 31 floors, does that have an ending?

Nope. It just goes on forever. It's not really worth the trouble though. When you unlock achievements, you eventually unlock the items from ToLS anyway. You get an achievement for descending I think 20 floors. I sort of gave up after I got the achievement as it wasn't getting much harder, and was relatively pointless.

I did ascend to the top though, mainly so I could farm for gold on floor 60. It's the fastest way to make money.
 
radiantdreamer said:
Oh that one. Astaroth 1[A],B spam all the freakin' way.

Worked amazingly well from there until floor 60.
Yeah, I keep whiffing that move. I should learn to use Yun's armor breaker there.

Anyhoo, I just got done with some achievement farming with an online buddy, and shot up from 26 to 35 achievements. I should have unlocked everything by now, and I'm pretty much done now. I'll probably go back and get the two ranked online achievements, and the guy I was farming with showed me how to rack up Just Impacts easily with a Maxi/Maxi matchup, but yeah, I'm about done here.
 
Question:

You get stuff in Descend portion of Tower of Souls for ever 5 floor your clear. After 20 you get an Achievement... do you get anything for getting 25 floors? Like any equipment or something.

I can do it but I just want to know where I should stop. I heard that you get like some equipment for beating 25th floor as well, just want to confirm.
 
Dahbomb said:
Question:

You get stuff in Descend portion of Tower of Souls for ever 5 floor your clear. After 20 you get an Achievement... do you get anything for getting 25 floors? Like any equipment or something.

I can do it but I just want to know where I should stop. I heard that you get like some equipment for beating 25th floor as well, just want to confirm.
You get stuff for every 5 floors up to floor 40...
 
Oh man... is it possible to get those equipments by the "Get 30 Honors" requirement or are those equipments exclusively obtained from the Descent version of TOLS?

And another question... there is a skill ability that converts normal Guard Impacts into Just Impacts but the timing is more strict. Can that ability be used to obtain the 20 Just Impact Achievement?
 
twinturbo2 said:
Yeah, I keep whiffing that move. I should learn to use Yun's armor breaker there.

Yeah, it whiffs if it's too far, but that's okay. You just keep spamming and spamming it in succession, and it WILL hit.

Yun's 6BB works very well too, but you really have to practice up your timing for critical finisher. So far, I've found the Astaroth move to be MUCH more effective at nailing people. And if you're facing multiple opponents, you can time it just right so that after you defeat the first guy, the next guy that pops in will eat the 2 hit move, and most likely die. Did that on several stages and ended the floor in 15 seconds flat.

Another character that I found very effective, especially on Floor 59, is Amy's 3BA. It does get blocked sometimes, but it puts enough frames in between that you can guard anything that comes out right after and then spam 3BA some more.

Dahbomb said:
Oh man... is it possible to get those equipments by the "Get 30 Honors" requirement or are those equipments exclusively obtained from the Descent version of TOLS?

And another question... there is a skill ability that converts normal Guard Impacts into Just Impacts but the timing is more strict. Can that ability be used to obtain the 20 Just Impact Achievement?

AFAIK, they can be obtained through the 30 achievements. I've bought all the voodoo gear, which I believe is what gets unlocked when you descend.
 
radiantdreamer said:
Yeah, it whiffs if it's too far, but that's okay. You just keep spamming and spamming it in succession, and it WILL hit.

Yun's 6BB works very well too, but you really have to practice up your timing for critical finisher. So far, I've found the Astaroth move to be MUCH more effective at nailing people. And if you're facing multiple opponents, you can time it just right so that after you defeat the first guy, the next guy that pops in will eat the 2 hit move, and most likely die. Did that on several stages and ended the floor in 15 seconds flat.

Another character that I found very effective, especially on Floor 59, is Amy's 3BA. It does get blocked sometimes, but it puts enough frames in between that you can guard anything that comes out right after and then spam 3BA some more.
Can I practice on critical finishers in practice mode? When I went achievement farming yesterday, I finally did one, but I kept whiffing after the soul crush for a bit.
 
Dahbomb said:
Oh man... is it possible to get those equipments by the "Get 30 Honors" requirement or are those equipments exclusively obtained from the Descent version of TOLS?

And another question... there is a skill ability that converts normal Guard Impacts into Just Impacts but the timing is more strict. Can that ability be used to obtain the 20 Just Impact Achievement?
I think so, but I didn't try that. I got some Just Impacts by using Maxi, holding down two buttons (I forget which ones, I think it's B and K) and letting the other guy attack me. In a Maxi Vs. Maxi match, the other guy kept attacking me, and I got 10 Just Impacts that way.
 
twinturbo2 said:
Can I practice on critical finishers in practice mode? When I went achievement farming yesterday, I finally did one, but I kept whiffing after the soul crush for a bit.

Yes, you can. Go into practice mode, and set the soul gauges to red. Put the setting to VS CPU, and practice right there.
 
The DLC this week:
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It will be (barring something strange) available as soon as the update hits. It's already up in Japan and probably XBL Japan at least. Just as I jokingly predicted, they increased the price again ($.50 with each pack). Now whether they put up pack 2 for North America is another story.
 
I suppose it's okay that the "exclusive" content no longer is. I mean, school uniforms. Not a whole lot of epic coolness in my opinion.

The fact that it has been exclusive for over a month now is pretty good, in my opinion.

Now, I need to check - is it considered "purchased" in the store if you had already downloaded it as part of the premium edition pack?

I wonder how downloaded content affects you if you need to get your PS3 replaced...
 
attention Karasu:

It's too bad about the lag last night. I was able to read all your moves, but I couldn't block any of them because of the lag.

I even had missed inputs too! When I was trying to do 2KB with Mitsurugi, it ended up being 8wr [stop] B. I'm like WTF?!

Even the characters I normally use as a solution to heavy lag wasn't cutting it.

I've got tenants living downstairs, they were probably using the internet or something, so I've set up QoS (Quality of Service) on my routher to set my PS3's bandwidth to take highest priority. Perhaps that will fix it. Let's try battling again sometime and hope the lag won't be as severe.
 
radiantdreamer said:
Yes, you can. Go into practice mode, and set the soul gauges to red. Put the setting to VS CPU, and practice right there.
Will do. I really need to get the timing down now that I got one and have 99 to go for that achievement.

As for the new DLC... more collectors edition stuff? It's a good thing I got the CE when I had the chance, though. I just hope they add more fighting styles, that's all. Only having the default characters to toy with is not enough...

I don't think I have what Cassie's wearing, though.
 
twinturbo2 said:
I don't think I have what Cassie's wearing, though.

I believe it's there. the pleated checkered skirt. the tights, I believe are the bandages colored black. Pretty smart usage. Too bad I still can't make a good Rinoa out of it. :(

Where is the Mini skirt?!
 
radiantdreamer said:
I believe it's there. the pleated checkered skirt. the tights, I believe are the bandages colored black. Pretty smart usage. Too bad I still can't make a good Rinoa out of it. :(

Where is the Mini skirt?!
Yeah, but what's the name of the shirt she's wearing?
 
twinturbo2 said:
Yeah, but what's the name of the shirt she's wearing?

I think it's just "checkered pleated skirt". The DLC clothing items are listed at the bottom of the list, just scroll down and it'll be there.
 
kay said:
It will be (barring something strange) available as soon as the update hits. It's already up in Japan and probably XBL Japan at least. Just as I jokingly predicted, they increased the price again ($.50 with each pack). Now whether they put up pack 2 for North America is another story.
Looks like this is wrong now. Since people noticed it was from the LE, it wasn't in the update... they now have to skip both of these packs? Stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
So, question.

Today when playing the Tower of Souls thing, I came across Sheung Mina in a blue outfit that she doesn't have as one of her standard two outfits. Next floor had Xianghua in an awesome light and dark purple outfit that, again, isn't one of her two defaults.

So far, I've come across no pieces that I can tell would be part of that outfit. Is there a way in the game to unlock "3P" outfits or anything like that? Or are those outfit pieces unlocked later on in some way?
 
shidoshi said:
So, question.

Today when playing the Tower of Souls thing, I came across Sheung Mina in a blue outfit that she doesn't have as one of her standard two outfits. Next floor had Xianghua in an awesome light and dark purple outfit that, again, isn't one of her two defaults.

So far, I've come across no pieces that I can tell would be part of that outfit. Is there a way in the game to unlock "3P" outfits or anything like that? Or are those outfit pieces unlocked later on in some way?
Huh? You can edit any character with any item you want. 3p outfit is anything.
 
kay said:
Looks like this is wrong now. Since people noticed it was from the LE, it wasn't in the update... they now have to skip both of these packs? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Wait... So we're not getting either of them in the US? At all?

And we're not getting ANY DLC while these are being doled out to other countries?

Oh, GG Namco. (Sigh)
 
kay said:
Huh? You can edit any character with any item you want. 3p outfit is anything.

Uhm, I don't think you read what I wrote.

The outfits Sheun Ming and Xianghua had on weren't anything I've seen as outfit pieces so far, and they looked far more like "3P" outfits versus something put together via the character editor. (When fighting against the pre-made custom characters in the game, you can instantly tell they were built using the editor outfit pieces.)

And seriously... if we don't get an option to buy the outfit pieces that were in the LE, I'm done with Namco and their games.
 
shidoshi said:
So far, I've come across no pieces that I can tell would be part of that outfit. Is there a way in the game to unlock "3P" outfits or anything like that? Or are those outfit pieces unlocked later on in some way?

There are no official 3rd outfits. Some floors have the default characters in really well re-coloured versions of their 1st & 2nd outfits. Are you sure that's not what you've seen? What floor was it where you saw those characters? I'll go check what they were.


shidoshi said:
And seriously... if we don't get an option to buy the outfit pieces that were in the LE, I'm done with Namco and their games.

I don't really understand this reasoning. They already gave you the option of buying the pieces and it was no secret they were "exclusive" to the Premium Edition (it's got that name for a reason), it's their fault you didn't.
 
ThirstyFly said:
There are no official 3rd outfits. Some floors have the default characters in really well re-coloured versions of their 1st & 2nd outfits. Are you sure that's not what you've seen? What floor was it where you saw those characters? I'll go check what they were.

Around floors 18 ~ 20 or so. And I don't think the outfit Xianghua had on was either of her defaults, but now that you mention that, I almost exclusively play with her P2 outfit. I'll take a look at her P1 outfit and see if it was just that re-colored.


I don't really understand this reasoning. They already gave you the option of buying the pieces and it was no secret they were "exclusive" to the Premium Edition (it's got that name for a reason), it's their fault you didn't.

I've already argued about this, but LE SHOULD NOT be about in-game content. You want to bundle stupid t-shirts or art books or whatever with an LE? Great. But there's absolutely no reason to punish the major of Soul Calibur IV owners - those who bought the regular version of the game - by not giving them any access to specific in-game content. Everybody who buys any version of the game should have, in some way, access to every single element of said game. What about somebody who buys the game three months from now? It's okay for them to have no choice in getting those outfit pieces?

A company that makes the limited edition version of a game the "real" version of that game is a company I'm not going to continue buying games from.
 
shidoshi said:
Uhm, I don't think you read what I wrote.

The outfits Sheun Ming and Xianghua had on weren't anything I've seen as outfit pieces so far, and they looked far more like "3P" outfits versus something put together via the character editor. (When fighting against the pre-made custom characters in the game, you can instantly tell they were built using the editor outfit pieces.)

And seriously... if we don't get an option to buy the outfit pieces that were in the LE, I'm done with Namco and their games.
I did read what you wrote. Since there is only 2 outfits for each character one would assume you were speaking of CAS parts and not another main costume. "blue outfit" I expected was just clothing you haven't got yet.
 
shidoshi said:
I've already argued about this, but LE SHOULD NOT be about in-game content. You want to bundle stupid t-shirts or art books or whatever with an LE? Great. But there's absolutely no reason to punish the major of Soul Calibur IV owners - those who bought the regular version of the game - by not giving them any access to specific in-game content. Everybody who buys any version of the game should have, in some way, access to every single element of said game. What about somebody who buys the game three months from now? It's okay for them to have no choice in getting those outfit pieces?

A company that makes the limited edition version of a game the "real" version of that game is a company I'm not going to continue buying games from.

There's NOTHING to indicate that the PREMIUM EDTION is a limited edition, so please stop referring to it as so. I still see it on store shelves and it's instock on Amazon. It's not that rare. Hell, I still see MGS4 special editions on shelves, so I doubt it'll be a problem in 3 months. Obviously at some point it will be hard to get, but nothing stays in print forever, especially in the video game industry. I can't download camo patterns for MGS3 anymore, it doesn't mean I'm going to stop buying Konami games.

Namco not punishing anyone. You are not going to lose a match online because you don't have a Japanese schoolgirl sweater. While they we not exactly clear about what the DLC parts were, them being exclusive to the Premium Edition was known the second that was even announced. It also says right on the package that the content is "not sold anywhere else in the US", so you can't really feign ignorance on that either. The only thing you're missing out on is some extra fluff that you decided on your own not go get, so I don't know why it's such a hot issue with you that you need to keep bringing it up.

If I'm going to pay a premium price for something, I want something, like a soundtrack or artbook that simply wouldn't sell otherwise in this market, or something I can't get anywhere else, like in-game content. Now, if it gave people an unfair advantage or was stupidly limited, I could understand, but that is not the case with SC4.

If a company releases a 1-disc DVD and a 2-disc DVD with a higher price on the same day, are you getting less of a movie with the 1-disc? No. You are getting an option of spending more money on the same movie with extra stuff. Should they not include good features like deleted scenes and just stuff in junk like a t-shirt because you refuse to buy the more expensive version? No, they should include something people actually want so they do spend the money on the premium version.
 
ThirstyFly said:
If I'm going to pay a premium price for something, I want something, like a soundtrack or artbook that simply wouldn't sell otherwise in this market, or something I can't get anywhere else, like in-game content. Now, if it gave people an unfair advantage or was stupidly limited, I could understand, but that is not the case with SC4.

I'm totally with you until you get to in-game content. You can say whatever you want, you're not going to convince me that it isn't a shitty decision for a company to make. I should not have to buy a version of the game with a bunch of other garbage I don't want just to get in-game content. Make actual game content available to every owner of the game, no matter what version they own, or don't make it at all.

If a company releases a 1-disc DVD and a 2-disc DVD with a higher price on the same day, are you getting less of a movie with the 1-disc?

Games aren't movies.
 
shidoshi said:
I'm totally with you until you get to in-game content. You can say whatever you want, you're not going to convince me that it isn't a shitty decision for a company to make. I should not have to buy a version of the game with a bunch of other garbage I don't want just to get in-game content. Make actual game content available to every owner of the game, no matter what version they own, or don't make it at all.

Every potential owner had the option. It's like like LittleBigPlanet where pre-ordering at a specific store would grant you one of the other pieces of DLC content, so you can't have both. If you wanted it, it was there for you (unless of course you're not in the NA market, then they're correcting that with the DLC).

I'm not trying to change your opinion. You're welcome to do as you please, but you make it sound as if there was no option, which there clearly was.

shidoshi said:
Games aren't movies.

Obviously not, but that does not explain how it's not a valid analogy.
 
Leatherface said:
I feel like such a newb, but I can't for the life of me beat the Apprentice with Vader. :_(

His AI is ramped way up when you face him in arcade mode with Vader. Try using Vader's ring out throw for a cheap win, that's what I did :)
 
radiantdreamer said:
attention Karasu:

It's too bad about the lag last night. I was able to read all your moves, but I couldn't block any of them because of the lag.

I even had missed inputs too! When I was trying to do 2KB with Mitsurugi, it ended up being 8wr [stop] B. I'm like WTF?!

Even the characters I normally use as a solution to heavy lag wasn't cutting it.

I've got tenants living downstairs, they were probably using the internet or something, so I've set up QoS (Quality of Service) on my routher to set my PS3's bandwidth to take highest priority. Perhaps that will fix it. Let's try battling again sometime and hope the lag won't be as severe.


Look like you fixed it. Good games!
 
ThirstyFly said:
His AI is ramped way up when you face him in arcade mode with Vader. Try using Vader's ring out throw for a cheap win, that's what I did :)

I'll game for anything. I just want him in my character select. heh.
 
UC1 said:
May as well post these here also...

Algol infinite

All characters

Cervantes 1

Cervantes 2

Yoshimitsu

Algol's infinite looks pretty easy, I'm gonna try it out...

Also has anyone messed around with Cervantes 8A+K air juggles? Fun stuff =]
Hm, thanks. I just hope that a patch... aw, screw it, why bother? It ain't gonna happen.

I got another achievement- 350 pieces of equipment. God, I wish I had a counter for that one so I can just look at the battle records and see how close I was to that one. Ditto for the 1 million gold achievement. I wish I knew how much gold I accumulated over the game...
 
twinturbo2 said:
Hm, thanks. I just hope that a patch... aw, screw it, why bother? It ain't gonna happen.

I got another achievement- 350 pieces of equipment. God, I wish I had a counter for that one so I can just look at the battle records and see how close I was to that one. Ditto for the 1 million gold achievement. I wish I knew how much gold I accumulated over the game...
You can, check the battle records
 
twinturbo2 said:
Hm, thanks. I just hope that a patch... aw, screw it, why bother? It ain't gonna happen.

In the Algol video they show a new stage, so it's possible that a decent update is on the way. We still don't have Vader in the 360 version either...

I have a feeling that whenever they add some substantial content, they will fix a couple of things. But I'd honestly prefer to wait and see what happens with the competitive scene before changing the game too drastically. A lot of the time players prefer the older versions of games, broken = fun and some characters need a little broken goodness to stay good.
 
Grr...why the hell is kilik's f+a+b so god damn good? Anybody have links to good match vids? My Voldo and Seigfried are pretty damn good, but I want them to be better than good.
 
I don't think anything will be patched to be honest lol.

The Cervantes 8A+K combos are fun. I only use 1 or 2 though. I usually end with iGDR~28B
 
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