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South Carolina passes bill making ACA implementation a crime

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Homeboyd said:
lol no. Do you know how many already wont take Medicare or state Medicaid pts as it was before Obamacare? They don't want more of those customers and will (and do) outright deny seeing any of them.
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This is 100% true. My mother went to hospital(emergency) with congestive heart failure. (around 7pm 8pm) Now, she has 2 ppo's, but since shes a certain age, its forced Medicare. Medicare is the first insurance they hospital had to go through. At this giant hospital, they had no medicare person on staff to admit her. (Cedars in los angeles), so without that, they shipped her to another hospital in downtown los angeles at 3 in the morning. All because they didn't want to admit her w/the medicare insurance first.

Its disgusting to see the GOP so passionate about protecting the medical insurance industry.
 
i respect the state's decision, that ACA shit sounds like such a headache. glad no-one's trying to implement anything like that here in the UK.
 
commedieu said:
This is 100% true. My mother went to hospital(emergency) with congestive heart failure. (around 7pm 8pm) Now, she has 2 ppo's, but since shes a certain age, its forced Medicare. Medicare is the first insurance they hospital had to go through. At this giant hospital, they had no medicare person on staff to admit her. (Cedars in los angeles), so without that, they shipped her to another hospital in downtown los angeles at 3 in the morning. All because they didn't want to admit her w/the medicare insurance first.
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Absolutely fucked up.
 
waterydave said:
But if you already have healthcare than nothing changes for you. This only effects people without healthcare.

Do doctors and hospitals not want more customers? Do students not want a future profession that will always be needed and never outsourced?

The only people I can see that would be upset are the people without healthcare who do not want it and are now getting a minimal fine. I don't think those people are represented much in the government
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The actual reason, at least if a lot of the rhetoric and even some of the focus groups are accurate, is that by "making people dependent on the government" it "helps the Democrats win more"
 
ghst said:
i respect the state's decision, that ACA shit sounds like such a headache. glad no-one's trying to implement anything like that here in the UK.
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It's one thing to not participate and also not receive expanded medicaid funds from the government, it's another to hilariously try to somehow criminalize it. It's nothing to respect.
 
thechristoph said:
Governor Nikki? Okay.
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Dead Man said:
Absolutely fucked up.
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Right, but what's the solution? Forcing Dr's to take insurances they aren't enrolled providers for? If they have enough private insurance patients (which they will continue to have, except possibly in rural markets where they take McR/McD anyways), they'll never take these patients. They'll ship you to participating Dr's and hospitals which are usually the Dr's and hospitals that wouldn't be your first (or second or third) choice.
 
ghst said:
i respect the state's decision, that ACA shit sounds like such a headache. glad no-one's trying to implement anything like that here in the UK.
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You respect a state trying to make it illegal to participate in a federal programme? Nah.

Homeboyd said:
Right, but what's the solution? Forcing Dr's to take insurances they aren't enrolled providers for? If they have enough private insurance patients (which they will continue to have, except possibly in rural markets where they take McR/McD anyways), they'll never take these patients. They'll ship you to participating Dr's and hospitals which are usually the Dr's and hospitals that wouldn't be your first (or second or third) choice.
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Yes, that is what will happen. They just don't care, or believe it.
 
waterydave said:
But if you already have healthcare than nothing changes for you. This only effects people without healthcare.
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Technically that's not true. The mandate put into place requirements that every insurance plan must follow. Many people probably haven't noticed because these changes have been rolling out over the past few years.

People like to point to birth control coverage as the big one, but it's the dependent age increase that has really affected my employer.
 
Zoe said:
Technically that's not true. The mandate put into place requirements that every insurance plan must follow. Many people probably haven't noticed because these changes have been rolling out over the past few years.

People like to point to birth control coverage as the big one, but it's the dependent age increase that has really affected my employer.
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I didn't know that. What type of mandated changes were made across the board? What changes with birth control?
 
I like how they remove the choice to participate in the program and then call it freedom.

Freedom is slavery and all that.
 
Homeboyd said:
What will happen? The gov't will step in and tell which dr's/hospitals have to take which insurances?
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No, regardless of what the plan is, anything short of a single payer or whatever you guys call public health care will result in that. People with the less desired insurances will be shuttled around.
 
ITS CALLED THE FREEDOM OF HEALTH CARE PROTECTION ACT?

My god, these people are fucking sick in the head. I hope when they die they get buried with all their money.
 
Dead Man said:
No, regardless of what the plan is, anything short of a single payer or whatever you guys call public health care will result in that. People with the less desired insurances will be shuttled around.
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Yep. It won't change with obamacare anytime soon either. The hospitals that do take these are usually county run facilities paid for by the taxpayers... So less than desirable facilities you could say. And most of the time, you get less than desirable physicians (and often times are used for med school residents in training).
 
South Carolina is one of the poorest states in the US (along with most of the rest of the red state south). This is something that can probably help a lot of the people there but their government officials and the media has got them so brainwashed into thinking that this is going to ruin their American Dream or some other bullshit. It's amazing really.
 
789shadow said:
They really just don't care.
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Yep, they'd rather they throw all professionalism out the window, shove their fingers in their ears, and yell "LALALALALALALALALA WHAT CAN'T HEAR YOU" then pass a law that would mean a pretty historic victory for the democrats.

Or, rather, implement a law. Which they sort of have to. Because it's a law. Idiots.
 
epmode said:
Nah, I know what he's saying.

I personally want a single-payer system is all. But that's basically treason over here.
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Yeah, most people can't distinguish between health care and health insurance.

And I personally think [the individual mandate is] unconstitutional as well (along with a few of the justices on the Supreme Court itself).

Unfortunately, I need the ACA to come to fruition soon (father is dealing with life threatening cancer that started really affecting his health about 30 days ago).

It might be a great wonderful life-saving stop-gap, but it sets a terrible precedent and needs to be replaced with Single Payer.

Anyone who says that'll take 50 years of some shit - and is OK with that - yeeesh.

EDIT: Plus comon' guys, no one is going to get arrested or even charged with a crime over this.
 
Poltergust said:
Yeah, there's no way this would stand if taken to the courts. You can't just criminalize federal law. Do these people not know about the Supremacy Clause or something?
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You think they give a shit about federal law at this point? You're dealing with a generation of (relatively) younger conservatives who spent the last 30 years of their adult life listening to rightwing hate radio and being told that the people who oppose their agenda are "the enemy". They've been primed to go crazy for years. 9/11 made them notice the cliff, and Obama's election(s) put them right on the edge.
This'll be them putting one foot over the edge if they don't stop.

The only way to make them stop is to get rid of the rightwing hate media somehow.
 
Josh7289 said:
South Carolina started the original civil war.

This can't be legal.
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It's not. A state law can't override a federal law. This is them just acting stupid. Even if it was taken to the supreme court they'd never side on behalf of the state. They never have. Especially after they recently ruled and upheld the ACA.
 
This is hilarious to me but I also feel bad for the people of North Carolina who didn't vote in Gov. Nikki Haley and the people in the state legislature. It must suck.
 
My international co-workers got a good laugh out of this when I brought it up at lunch. My boss is English, he said his friends back home tease him for working in "Somalia II". We're a laughingstock. :(
 
Effect said:
It's not. A state law can't override a federal law. This is them just acting stupid. Even if it was taken to the supreme court they'd never side on behalf of the state. They never have. Especially after they recently ruled and upheld the ACA.
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Uhh what about marijuana legalization?
 
I actually wonder if this article properly referenced the act in question.

The Washington Times is even worse than Fox News.
 
Effect said:
It's not. A state law can't override a federal law. This is them just acting stupid. Even if it was taken to the supreme court they'd never side on behalf of the state. They never have. Especially after they recently ruled and upheld the ACA.
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SCOTUS ruled pretty emphatically in Aaron v. Cooper that the states have no rights to invalidate or try to circumvent federal law. I agree, I can't see them going back on that now, especially on a law they just debated and upheld.

watershed said:
This is hilarious to me but I also feel bad for the people of North Carolina who didn't vote in Gov. Nikki Haley and the people in the state legislature. It must suck.
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Don't lump us in with those South Carolina heathens (Realizes that McCrory is not much better)
 
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