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South Park: Season 19 - Starts September 16

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Man, I haven't laughed so much in any show like I have with Episode 2 here. Being Canadian I think helped the matter a bit :)

I like that Kyle's voice has been taken away. It's exactly what has been happening in the real world lately, people of reason just aren't being listened too. Also, those people of reason, when backed into a corner and forced into a way of thinking they don't actually value (AKA Kyle finally folding and committing to the statement "Caitlyn Jenner is a hero and is a beautiful person"), that is then held over them as a negative and they then have to shoulder the full weight of that.

One of the things that I laughed at the most was the revelation with Butters finding out Canada doesn't have ice cream and is explained to what the world "sorry" means.

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Charlotte - "Thanks, Butters! I'm sorry I didn't know what "ice cream" was."

Butters - "What's sorry?"

Charlotte - "Well that's what Canadians say to express remorse."

Butters - "Oh hey, that's neato!"
 
I like that Kyle's voice has been taken away. It's exactly what has been happening in the real world lately, people of reason just aren't being listened too. Also, those people of reason, when backed into a corner and forced into a way of thinking they don't actually value (AKA Kyle finally folding and committing to the statement "Caitlyn Jenner is a hero and is a beautiful person"), that is then held over them as a negative and they then have to shoulder the full weight of that.

Well said!
 
They mostly moved to america buddy

The point was that almost all Canadians decided to all leave cause he got into power.

...I feel stupid now.

I like that Kyle's voice has been taken away. It's exactly what has been happening in the real world lately, people of reason just aren't being listened too. Also, those people of reason, when backed into a corner and forced into a way of thinking they don't actually value (AKA Kyle finally folding and committing to the statement "Caitlyn Jenner is a hero and is a beautiful person"), that is then held over them as a negative and they then have to shoulder the full weight of that.

Meh, seems like South Park's usual "both sides are bad" shtick.
 
I'm not sure what's wrong with satirizing both sides.

It's only bad to people who are convinced that their viewpoint is the only sane, rational viewpoint and anyone who differs even slightly is on the OTHER SIDE and are to be pitied, vilified, and ostracized.
 
One of the things that I laughed at the most was the revelation with Butters finding out Canada doesn't have ice cream and is explained to what the world "sorry" means.

EDIT:

Charlotte - "Thanks, Butters! I'm sorry I didn't know what "ice cream" was."

Butters - "What's sorry?"

Charlotte - "Well that's what Canadians say to express remorse."

Butters - "Oh hey, that's neato!"

I am pretty sure that was just making fun of her accent. She was pronouncing it sowwy, which is how butters asked it as well, "what is sowwy" vs "what is sorry".
 
I am pretty sure that was just making fun of her accent. She was pronouncing it sowwy, which is how butters asked it as well, "what is sowwy" vs "what is sorry".

really? I thought it was a joke about Americans not being apologetic at all.


And I like it that way.
 
I can't get the canadian alphabet out of my head.

A, B, C, D, E, F, GUY, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, BUDDY, Q, R, S, T, U, FRIEND, W, X, EH and, PFFT.

It's only bad to people who are convinced that their viewpoint is the only sane, rational viewpoint and anyone who differs even slightly is on the OTHER SIDE and are to be pitied, vilified, and ostracized.

Bingo.
 
really? I thought it was a joke about Americans not being apologetic at all.


And I like it that way.

That is how I took it as well. Canadian's apologize for everything under the sun. I apologize to people that cut me off in hallways or elevators. What's up with that? And there is the stereotype that American's are never sorry for anything. Comedic stereotypes.
 
I took it as Butters not understanding the accent. She was pronouncing it "soary" like many Canadians do. In the US we pronounce it more like "sawry".
 
I am pretty sure that was just making fun of her accent. She was pronouncing it sowwy, which is how butters asked it as well, "what is sowwy" vs "what is sorry".

I took it as the show poking fun at the way Canadians pronounce the word. Like Butters had no idea she was even saying the word "sorry" so he needed clarification. Haha. I always thought it was funny how they pronounce it as "sore-y" so I was really amused when they worked that into the show.
 
No its clear it was meant as a joke about Americans never being sorry otherwise butters would have said something like "oh you mean sorry/another word" instead of liking the idea of someone showing remorse as if it was a new concept to him.
 
But Butters shows remorse all the time. If that's what they were going for, they picked exactly the wrong character to do it.
 
That is definitely a joke about Butters not understanding the Canadian pronunciation of "Sorry" and him thinking its a new word.
 
Episode 2 was alright, social commentary on point but not always funny, the episode was better paced than the first though. Kyle getting shut down every time when he would attempt a speech was great. I do like that this season is using continuity like the last one.

I must be a moron because I thought Chuck Mangione was a fictional King of the Hill character.
 
Episode 2 was alright, social commentary on point but not always funny, the episode was better paced than the first though. Kyle getting shut down every time when he would attempt a speech was great. I do like that this season is using continuity like the last one.

I must be a moron because I thought Chuck Mangione was a fictional King of the Hill character.

BAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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No its clear it was meant as a joke about Americans never being sorry otherwise butters would have said something like "oh you mean sorry/another word" instead of liking the idea of someone showing remorse as if it was a new concept to him.

It was an accent joke.
 
Wasn't a big fan of episode 2 either. Perhaps it would've been more interesting for me if it were Nigel Farage & some Romanians, haha.
 
Alright, decided to watch the new few episodes. Last season I watched was like...12? But I did play Stick of Truth and really liked that.

Episode 1 was alright. The Tom Brady dream sequence was probably the best part. Funny how all the PC dudes were all white and male tho

Episode 2 was better. Caitlyn Jenner running the guy over and everyone clapping made me laugh pretty hard. The Butters Lion King thing was good too. Also I love the detail that the Canadian family was just eating a shitton of Poutine and nothing else.
 
I know that Chuck Mangione is real, but I'd be lying if I said I thought of anything but King of the Hill when the Canadians started playing "Feels So Good".
 
I think they do original stories when they think of one, but it's very hard to do that out of nothing. Current events give them topical fodder and a springboard to tell stories from. Using their current schedule it totally makes sense to do it this way.

It's hard because they've pretty much done everything at this point.

It's absolutely logical that a show starts to suck after ~15 seasons.
 
Heh, rewatching some real early episodes and in the Big Gay Al episode in S1 theres a line thats "I haven't seen a beating like that since Rodney King" and they tell him that they will get in trouble because it isn't PC.
 
There isn't, but I just feel that a lot of these types of shows copout by playing "both sides are bad" card just so that they don't lose out with a part of the audience.

.. But they're not. The shows redeeming quality has always been that nothing is sacred, nothing is off the table - We make fun and ridicule everything. They've always said that the political ideologies put forth in the show is often not in line with what they feel.
I feel that many people try to take what they are saying as a que on what they want to say, but really Kyles speeches are just a way to carry the plot forward or make sure a point is driven home with added summery, not to lose the viewers who otherwise wouldn't get it.



Look - Even if you're on the "side" that they are making fun of, you owe it to yourself still be removed from it enough to laugh it, and acknowledge that there is no side, that doesn't deserve to be made fun of or have no bad apples. That's just egomania. Them making fun of progressives and right-wings at the same time means nothing!
 
Look - Even if you're on the "side" that they are making fun of, you owe it to yourself still be removed from it enough to laugh it, and acknowledge that there is no side, that doesn't deserve to be made fun of or have no bad apples. That's just egomania. Them making fun of progressives and right-wings at the same time means nothing!

I don't give care if they make fun of the left or the right, it's just very annoying that it seems every topic they touch its like "okay this plot focuses mainly on making fun of these people for being stupid, but these people can be kind of stupid in a way too so let's make sure to put them in there an equal amount of time and show that they are both equal".
 
I don't give care if they make fun of the left or the right, it's just very annoying that it seems every topic they touch its like "okay this plot focuses mainly on making fun of these people for being stupid, but these people can be kind of stupid in a way too so let's make sure to put them in there an equal amount of time and show that they are both equal".
But that's not what they're doing here. They're not equating the two sides, they're showing that they create a feedback loop that makes things miserable for the people caught in the middle. Yes, they're showing that both sides have problems. But they're not making any equations here- you're the one doing that in your head.
 
I don't give care if they make fun of the left or the right, it's just very annoying that it seems every topic they touch its like "okay this plot focuses mainly on making fun of these people for being stupid, but these people can be kind of stupid in a way too so let's make sure to put them in there an equal amount of time and show that they are both equal".

Was anyone really shown to be as bad as Trump/Garrison?
 
But that's not what they're doing here. They're not equating the two sides, they're showing that they create a feedback loop that makes things miserable for the people caught in the middle.
And this is the exact problem I have with South Park. It seems that every topic the show covers are two irrational opposing sides engaged in heated arguments while the rational voice of reason in the middle is always silenced because "both sides have their points."
 
And this is the exact problem I have with South Park. It seems that every topic the show covers are two irrational opposing sides engaged in heated arguments while the rational voice of reason in the middle is always silenced because "both sides have their points."
Our politics have gotten ridiculously polarized and its only getting worse.
 
Our politics have gotten ridiculously polarized and its only getting worse.

And? Does that mean that every single issue's answer is in the middle? Is a specific issue so polarized because both sides have moved far to the poles of their specific spectrum or could it be mostly one side doing the marching? Things aren't always as simple as "both sides are bad, so lets look in the middle", and that is overwhelmingly the message South Park brings with most of the topics they cover.
 
And this is the exact problem I have with South Park. It seems that every topic the show covers are two irrational opposing sides engaged in heated arguments while the rational voice of reason in the middle is always silenced because "both sides have their points."

I could be wrong, but one of the things I love about SP and Rick and Morty is their ability to convey A LOT of story in hilarious short amounts of time. Like, some South Park episode have feature length movies worth of character interaction and drama summed up in 20 minutes, and I think this is made possible by stereotypical and clearly defined agendas by the characters.
When they can push home a morale that goes without saying, it takes less exposition and explaining to make sure the audience gets it. It makes it easier to do show, don't tell because- ohh he has a truck driver hat, and he talks with a mexican accent- We already know what is going on. We don't have to guess his political ideology.

I'm speculating. I'm in awe of their storytelling techniques. Particularly with some of the classics like Imagination Land, 24-spoof, I-am-lorde-Ya-Ya-Ya and Awesome-O!
 
And? Does that mean that every single issue's answer is in the middle? Is a specific issue so polarized because both sides have moved far to the poles of their specific spectrum or could it be mostly one side doing the marching? Things aren't always as simple as "both sides are bad, so lets look in the middle", and that is overwhelmingly the message South Park brings with most of the topics they cover.

What? How is it "simple" to look at both sides, see the pros and con, and then work towards a solution without completely ignoring a certain side and how they came to believe what they are preaching? The simple solution would be to gravitate towards a side that you mostly agree with and proclaim the other as the enemy. This is what I'm guessing the season is buildings towards in their own particular way, that in the end, no solution is perfect and you're best to stay grounded in the middle and think for yourself.
 
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