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Speaking in tongues -- anyone experienced it?
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So OP has dismissed the scientific explanation because when it happened to him it didn't "feel like something scientific". WTF does that even mean? If you'd been talking gibberish about test tubes that would have been OK?
Reading this thread I firstly am disgusted yet again at how humans will manipulate each other for their own gain (that summer camp faith healing story is despicable) and secondly I feel really sorry for all the people in the world who seek out real explanations for observable phenomena only for people to dismiss it due to their own ignorance...
Reading this thread I firstly am disgusted yet again at how humans will manipulate each other for their own gain (that summer camp faith healing story is despicable) and secondly I feel really sorry for all the people in the world who seek out real explanations for observable phenomena only for people to dismiss it due to their own ignorance...
Probably because the idea that spirit energy can take control of tongues doesn't deserve respect. I believe that the Sonic universe exists within our universe, but no one respects that.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I didn't get a real answer or an answer in tongues, just a flippant one that makes you look like a hypocrite.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Well atleast you know whats being disrepected. Asking that silly question.
Why should anyone respect someone who acts like you do?
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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lol want to argue? Im not being disrespected I felt OP was and his speaking in tounges happening. I dont really believe in speaking toungues I know someone who does though and I think some stuff said here is kinda offensive as OP truly believes what he thinks happened to him. Thats all Im saying..
Well I truly believe I'm god, so if you dispute that or make fun of me, am I being disrespected?
Why should sincerity of belief exempt you from having people point out the flaws in said belief? You want us to treat a clearly fallacious hypothesis with kid-gloves so we don't hurt people's widdle feelings? No way.
I sleep talked to my dad in Italian once. Though it wasn't a spirit thing, it was a watching too much anime on Italian TV thing.
Chuck Norris
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I have epilepsy, when I have a fit I'm said to speak in tongues or spurt nonsense. You all have epilepsy. Or are pretending to
There you go.
There you go.
Yeah, just look at the people you're winning over.
My mother and her mother are Pentecostal so I've seen a lot of this. Preacher walks around palming people's foreheads, they pretend to pass out or whatever and people pray over them. Some crazy woman that's been going "AMEN! AMEN!" the whole goddamn time starts yelling gibberish, and the preacher "translates" it to some fanciful statement.
I was brought up as a Christian so I used to believe in god and jesus and all that, but even then I still thought this stuff was complete bullshit. Probably because it is.
I was brought up as a Christian so I used to believe in god and jesus and all that, but even then I still thought this stuff was complete bullshit. Probably because it is.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I wont do that I have a cousin that believes that I dont disrespect him. I would feel disrespected if I were you if thats how you truly feel.
I guess that gives you the go ahead. This is the internet though so go do it at your hearts content.
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teruterubozu
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Xenoglossia (speaking in unknown or ancient languages) is far more impressive as evidence than glossolalia (pure gibberish).
Mrs. Manky
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THIS. The Pentacost miracle was that the apostles in the Upper Room were granted the ability to speak foreign languages, and went out to preach to the people, speaking in the language that each would understand.
Yep. My experiences have been more like 'feeling the spirit', which is just like a heavy presence and intense joy.
I fucking hate religious people sometimes.
lorebringer
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Oh well, pity that doesn't actually happen.
teruterubozu
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Thanks
Personally I don't put too much stock into the concept. The phrase speaking in tongues referred to the disciples speaking in other already established languages to reach out to people in foreign lands so I would attribute it more to a English only speaker suddenly being able to speak German to preach to someone, in other words, something you don't see very often if you see it at all.
The idea of someone rapidly speaking in another language that no one else can understand leads me to believe that there is some baser psychological factor at work with what we describe as speaking in tongues in modern times.
I'm not Pentecostal, though, and my experiences in those churches has led me to doubt a lot of the things that occur in their weekly services.
The idea of someone rapidly speaking in another language that no one else can understand leads me to believe that there is some baser psychological factor at work with what we describe as speaking in tongues in modern times.
I'm not Pentecostal, though, and my experiences in those churches has led me to doubt a lot of the things that occur in their weekly services.
EnderWiggles
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Watch any video where people are speaking in tongues. When people speak it, they end up repeating the same syllables in succession, almost as if they're shuddering. Except that it's obvious that it's the tongues equivalent of "um" or "uh", as their brains can't decide fast enough upon which new syllable to use in their made-up garbled nattering.
Yup, this, I don't know where this modern pentecostal idea of speaking of tongues coming from buts its not about speaking gibberish whilst someone "interprets" . It was the apostles being able to speak actual foreign languages
The OP trying to have a rational discussion about speaking in tongues is offensive to my brain
I grew up in a non-religious environment and I think the first reference to "speaking in tongues" I came across was in an episode of The Simpsons.
My sister and I did watch the documentary Jesus Camp several years ago and we laughed our arses off at the kinds of things that go on in these places.
My sister and I did watch the documentary Jesus Camp several years ago and we laughed our arses off at the kinds of things that go on in these places.
Just learn all the major curse words in Welsh and put a bunch of gibberish in between. Especially funny if the preacher starts translating what you're saying as the word of God.
I grew up catholic and never really experienced the speaking in tongues until i was 13. Freaked me out the first time cause i never really knew what was happening. I do believe people speak in tongues tho during prayer and when they are overcome by the spirit but as I understand during the pentecost G-d sent down the holy spirit that gave the apostles different tongues to be able to speak to the different nations. Personally, during worship while was in high school i had these moment where i felt like extreme calm and like something was flowing over me. Other kids would speak in tongues too and it always amazed me. I guess i should add that It was the period when i felt like i was more closer to G-d than i've ever been in my life.
Coming from Europe I can tell you that it feels like an elaborate hoax like that Intelligent Design or the whole "Church want to control the country via politics".
I don't dispute that it's happening or anything...it's just a very american thing...to me.
Jean Valjean
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeP6l3JDBrw
Pastor Zangief... he speaks in tongues AND does the spinning lariat
Pastor Zangief... he speaks in tongues AND does the spinning lariat
Liberty4all
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I think Pentecostals beleive in 3 or 4 different types of "tongues". There is "groanings of the spirit" (where you are praying so hard for somebody or something the Spirit takes over. There is personal edification/private prayer (what most people are taking about here), there is actual foreign language tongues and there is "prophesy" tongues which needs to be interpreted.
I'm not pentacostal myself but I'm pretty sure that's the main types they teach about.
And yes some of the comments here are extremely offensive as there are people that hold talking in tongues to be a deeply spiritual experience, core to their religious beliefs. Speaking for myself I hadn't really had it happen before and couldn't recall GAF ever talking about it in off topic. I guess I know why it doesn't come up now ...
I do appreciate those talking about the science behind it though. Personally I think it's possible to have both a scientific and spiritual explanation spiritual at least in terms of the effect it might have on one and their faith.
Sad to see this post being ignored. ;(
WorriedCitizen
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I think it's a form of contagious collective neurosis. No regular person would start with this stuff if he wasn't exposed to it before by others in his community.
I've never met a person here who speaks in tongues. Seems to be an American thing. Only comparable thing i can think of is catholics who believe they are possesed. It's telling that this sort of stuff only happens in communities where people already believe in a lot of superstitious nonsense to begin with.
I've never met a person here who speaks in tongues. Seems to be an American thing. Only comparable thing i can think of is catholics who believe they are possesed. It's telling that this sort of stuff only happens in communities where people already believe in a lot of superstitious nonsense to begin with.
DragonSworne
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What is a fake preacher compared to a real preacher?
Fake Preacher - Real Preacher = One True Scotsman
A fake preacher knows he's spouting lies, whereas a real one doesn't.
Not by me, it is perhaps the best post I've seen all month.
When I was a kid I use to go to a church were they all did this, it did and still does freak me out.But these people aren't the type to lie or fake things, they really believe it's happening to them. I think WorriedCitizen is correct in that's some sorta of neurosis.
samus i am
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No because it's not a real thing.
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Sometimes people need to sing and dance. Singing and dancing lets you take your focus off any stress, physical or mental, for a little bit without requiring a lot of thought. Most people are afraid to sing or dance but love excuses to do so without seeming like they're being judged. I consider speaking in tongues to be singing (and many times dancing too). I've spoken in tongues because it's fun to do. Everyone should try it. Everyone should yell and sing and dance and be wild once in awhile. Sometimes people need to sing and dance. (edit: they need to do it to that ^^^ Talking Heads song too)
Kinda off-topic, but I wish religious people could switch from thinking a magic skycloud wizard allowed miracles to happen, to believing that the greater consciousness of the universe itself made something miraculous happen. They could retain their need for magic, without relying on the words of men from previous times who had no idea what the world would be like in the future to guide them. It would also allow more interesting, I'll even go as far as to say rational thought. It would probably be at least another 100-200 years before people like that to cause major problems in the world.
Kinda off-topic, but I wish religious people could switch from thinking a magic skycloud wizard allowed miracles to happen, to believing that the greater consciousness of the universe itself made something miraculous happen. They could retain their need for magic, without relying on the words of men from previous times who had no idea what the world would be like in the future to guide them. It would also allow more interesting, I'll even go as far as to say rational thought. It would probably be at least another 100-200 years before people like that to cause major problems in the world.
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