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Speculate - Sony and Microsoft's new consoles

I expect the next PlayStation to be a Bigger, Stronger, Better version.

The nest Xbox will by more of a multimedia device, with built in Kinect functionality, Metro-esque UI - I'll predict it'll run Windows 8, because it seems they're going down this route. They'll focus on a lot of stuff that aren't games. It'll probably be compatible with 360 controllers and ship with them.
 
I can see psv being the foundation in which they lay their new philosophy on gaming in general. Portability. I can see the next ps4 being a device that you can take on the go and simply dock it at home and play your games with a regular controller. For people that want to just play on the go or resume their game on the go they just need one device, and for others (much like laptops) if they want they can have it simply docked at all times in their home.
 
PSIV will be the most powerful, from the PS Vita their design philosophy is still raw horsepower, controller may very well be a standard controller with some touch interface.

Xbox 720 will be a multimedia device close in power to the PSIV, but with a stronger focus on ease of development, it may feature the Windows 9 metro UI, Kinect compatibility, whether it comes standard depends on sales at the time.
 
Im fairly certain ill be buying my first microsoft console next time round, and just sticking with that.

Should be plenty enough.
 
I'm at 80% certainty that the next Microsoft console will have Kinect integrated. Better camera, lower latency, wider range of capture, acceptable in various lighting conditions, etc.

I'm 50% certain that the next Sony console will have tons of integration with PSVita, potentially leveraging the controller akin to Wii U. I'm hoping the architecture is similar to the current PS3 tech to keep the cost down.

Plenty of RAM for both! 2GB minimum.
 
eravulgaris said:
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But with a Sony logo on top.

Definitely 3D stuff, as they keep pushing it.
Sony was showing off a HD, 3D headset at CES...
 
Sony... no idea.

Microsoft - I would not be surprised if they took a technological step backwards in terms of graphics. Their next console might be more of a TV appliance that happens to play games. And most of those games will be more Kinect focused. It might be something more like a glorified Apple TV - small, no fans or other moving parts, running Metro.
 
Something something copy Wii U

I mean they couldn't wait to copy waggle so no doubt they will continue to look to Lord Nintendo
 
My guess is that they'll step everything up. RAM, CPU, GPU, and improve the Cell technology. Improve the disc reading speed, adjust the Blu-Ray laser to increase disc space, and put some kind of gimmick that will make us buy the console.

magicaltrevor said:
My guess is that the PS4 still won't have cross-game Voice Chat.

If the Vita can do it, why can't the PS4 do it?
 
Give me minor power updgrades with massive RAM improvements...Im pretty happy with the way MS and Sony graphics are now, just need more room to make things 1080 and or 60 FPS.

I always fear better graphics leading to worse online play thought, my crappy DSL line isn't getting any faster, thats for sure.
 
- Next PlayStation is going to be entirely based on a cloud. No harddrive. Xbox as well, maybe.
- There will be option for streaming games (probably in services like PS Plus or Xbox Gold, at least initially) on both next PS and Xbox.
- Next Xbox won't be called Xbox.
- Kinect is going to be integrated into next MS console thus we can expect no-pad bundles with usual party games.
- There will be less and less hardcore games for all consoles. Facebook is going to become bigger gaming platform, beating Apple.
 
GodofWine said:
Give me minor power updgrades with massive RAM improvements...Im pretty happy with the way MS and Sony graphics are now, just need more room to make things 1080 and or 60 FPS.

I always fear better graphics leading to worse online play thought, my crappy DSL line isn't getting any faster, thats for sure.
60 fps will never be a standard on consoles. Play games on PC if it's 60 fps you want.

Also, better graphics does not mean that more data is being sent while playing games online.
 
I expect the next Xbox to not focus so much on power. It'll have Kinect built in or something. It'll maintain the focus on both light and dedicated gamers.

PS4 will be just like PS3 but of the new decade. Super powerful, hooked up and going to war. I think Sony is the only one who still thinks specs matter as much as they do. Microsoft is sort of a combination of Sony and Nintendo now.

edit: I don't think Sony will pack in Move or push it so hard next gen. I see them sort of abandoning it.
 
TheBranca18 said:
Same reason the PS3 can't do it. Because of some silly MS patent probably.

Nah, I was just joking. The PS4 will have cross-game Voice Chat.

It has nothing to do with patents (well, I'm pretty sure they are patents involved, but that's not the main issue). It's because they just can't get it to work properly due to their fuck-up when building the PS3 and its core OS.

Next time, DON'T have the guys over in Japan working on your software, Sony. They have different ideas about what's important.
 
I think Sony and MS both ship with their current motion controllers in the box.

Sony probably puts out PSeye HD or just a higher grade camera too.

But basically, just more powerful systems for both.
 
My guess is they are going to expedite their current plans to take advantage of the opening Nintendo has handed them. Now they have a clear target so they know what to shoot for.
 
DennisK4 said:
Something something copy Wii U

I mean they couldn't wait to copy waggle so no doubt they will continue to look to Lord Nintendo
I know this is going to sound kind of creepy, but I know that you a definitely a fixture of PC gaf and you can appreciate good visuals AND gameplay.

You've been posting gifs of the zelda video here and there without a single word. What is your opinion on the system and the hardware(at least what most of us can glean from just a few vids)?
 
Both slightly more powerful than 360/PS3 level, easy development environment, more reliable, sold at break even/slight loss, improved motion controls bundled, each will have some new gimmick to attract a broader audience. More focus on download delivery.

I think all three manufacturers will be in a similar place.
 
While both consoles might not be annouced at E3 they'll be the highlight of next year's show. This stale sequel trench we've gotten stuck in is very sad. They'll both launch in 2014. My guess is that Sony will release: Japan -> USA -> EU and Microsoft will admit defeat in Japan and go with: USA -> EU -> Japan.
 
ziran said:
Both slightly more powerful than 360/PS3 level, easy development environment, more reliable, sold at break even/slight loss, improved motion controls bundled, each will have some new gimmick to attract a broader audience. More focus on download delivery.

I think all three manufacturers will be in a similar place.


you are insane if you think Sony will settle for only a little bit more power than the ps3. the PSV is a prime example of their philosophy of always pursuing high technology.
 
The next Xbox will come with Kinect (or its succesor) included. It WILL be more powerful, because franchises like Halo and Forza Motorsport are still hugely important.

And COD isn't going anywhere yet (though I wish it would..), so MS will still want to be seen as the better console for multiplats, they won't let Sony have too big of a technological advantage on them.

XBL, XBLA, and XBLIG will just keep growing.
 
I think we'll see the new Playstation before the new Xbox and I wouldn't be surprised if we see it next year. One thing is for sure, Sony sure knows how to debut a new console at E3. There won't be any confusion and it will make a big splash, whatever it is. But they can't use CGI this time.

I personally can't wait and I'm far more excited to see what Sony does next than Microsoft as despite loving the 360, I feel that Sony is far more in touch with us as gamers right now.

EDIT: And I expect Sony to work closely with Japanese pubs/devs for the PS4 launch titles as Japan will want to get back on the map again for the next generation. It'll be a strong mutual relationship.
 
bobbytkc said:
you are insane if you think Sony will settle for only a little bit more power than the ps3. the PSV is a prime example of their philosophy of always pursuing high technology.
I think it will be better, but nothing like the leap some people expect or the hardcore fans crave.
 
SolarPowered said:
I know this is going to sound kind of creepy, but I know that you a definitely a fixture of PC gaf and you can appreciate good visuals AND gameplay.

You've been posting gifs of the zelda video here and there without a single word. What is your opinion on the system and the hardware(at least what most of us can glean from just a few vids)?
I thinking that Nintendos idea is very intersting but before we actually have some games and some impressions its hard for me to say anything postive or negative about the tablet controller.

The hardware itself seems pretty great to me. It will be a huge step up and finally we will get HD Ninetendo games.

I have no doubt that PS4 and Nextbox will have better graphical capabillities when they eventually release but honestly, this Wii U seems to be at least as powerful as I had dared hope from Nintendo.

That Zelda HD footage alone makes me very excited for the kind of visuals we can now expect from Nintendo.
 
-Similar architechture to PS3.
-blu-ray still the primary format
-Overall business strategy will be to offer superior hardware power at the same pricepoint as competitors, roughly the same launch window.
-Expect Sony to aquire some key studios in the next few years.
 
Monty Mole said:
I think we'll see the new Playstation before the new Xbox and I wouldn't be surprised if we see it next year. One thing is for sure, Sony sure knows how to debut a new console at E3. There won't be any confusion and it will make a big splash, whatever it is. But they can't use CGI this time.

I personally can't wait and I'm far more excited to see what Sony does next than Microsoft as despite loving the 360, I feel that Sony is far more in touch with us as gamers right now.

EDIT: And I expect Sony to work closely with Japanese pubs/devs for the PS4 launch titles as Japan will want to get back on the map again for the next generation. It'll be a strong mutual relationship.

O REALLY?

Then where is my CROSS-GAME VOICE CHAT FOR PS3?!

j/k... But seriously, I think next year is too soon. Maybe they'll debute it at E3 2013, which means we'll see it released somewhere in 2014.
 
PS4 E3 2012 announcement, launch 'end of fiscal year 2012'. Cue screams from GAF hoping their region gets it first etc.

MS might think they can wait another year but I'm not sure, might also be a fall 2012 release.

MS won't 'build in' kinect, it'll still need to be a separate thing. Not even sure they'll bundle it. It adds to cost and its marketed to a different group of people than are likely to be buying an expensive launch machine. MS will want the kinect market to continue to buy the (price reduced) 360+kinect.

Power wise both similar but PS4 edges 720. Both kill WiiU comfortably. Gaffers yet again regret saying 'I don't see how graphics can improve' when they clearly can. Both make PCs cry initially, but as these will now be the baseline for development, newer PCs can look forward to finally having games that will leverage their capabilities.

IMO next gen is the goldilocks gen. Framerate, resolution, online connectivity, social integration - everything will be 'just right'.
 
magicaltrevor said:
O REALLY?

Then where is my CROSS-GAME VOICE CHAT FOR PS3?!

j/k... But seriously, I think next year is too soon. Maybe they'll debute it at E3 2013, which means we'll see it released somewhere in 2014.

This. It's been 5 years...
 
E3 2012 for next gen consoles... only way I could see them holding off is if they really think theres some breakthrough hardware available in late 2013 which could make their games look even better.

That being said some of the visuals we're seeing this year are insane (RAGE, Skyrim). If someone told me they were being made for next-gen systems I probably wouldn't bat an eye.

It going to be interesting to see how much of a visual leap next gen systems will be. Skyrim already looks drop dead gorgeous. The only things that I envision improving would be better grass in the distance, a higher resolution, and v-sync with a higher FPS.
 
If the hype is overwhelming and overshadowing MS/Sony's offerings, then I expect to hear about them in E3 2012...but only in that case.

We can assume once announced it would probably put a dent in their PS3/360 sales which I don't think either of them want now, and they won't do it unless someone forces their hands. Right now the Wii U is just a PS3/360 with cool accessories and the Nintendo brand...if they are able to still release their COD's, Halo's and Uncharted and keep up in the graphics/fun race I don't see them being scared yet and willing to show their hand. Plus, considering the gauntlet that Wii U has thrown as far as accessories are concerned, it might make them both go back into the drawing board to a certain extent so we def. won't see it by Xmas 2012.

I say E3 2013, or maybe a leak/easer earlier in that year
 
I don't think we'll see them until 2013 at the earliest. I just don't see why any developer or publisher would want them. Software is selling well, the costs are just starting to become manageable. Why would they want to hit the reset button on that?
 
Monty Mole said:
EDIT: And I expect Sony to work closely with Japanese pubs/devs for the PS4 launch titles as Japan will want to get back on the map again for the next generation. It'll be a strong mutual relationship.


I don't think so. I think that Japanese games development is still there, they just moved on to handhelds. they will probably continue to stay with PSV And 3ds. western markets will continue to focus on consoles.

and I agree with you about Sony. Sony still has their sights focused on the hardcore. they still pursue high technology, and they appear to be going forth in the right direction now in understanding what consumers and developers want, judging from the PSV.
 
I don't think Sony will copy Nintendo any more than they copied DS/3DS when designing the Vita (that is to say, not at all). It's VERY clear that the inspiration for Vita was the original PSP. It's quite literally just an upgraded PSP without the flaws people complained of. Bigger size, better screen, dual analog, and stronger specs.

I think PS4 will be the same way. It will be like a PS3, but better. I don't expect any gimmicks. Just a stronger PS3 without the system's flaws.

MS, I have a tough time predicting what they will do. They're really obsessed with Kinect now.
 
kinoki said:
Microsoft will admit defeat in Japan and go with: USA -> EU -> Japan.
They've already done that, after Sakaguchi's funding came to an abrupt halt. Mistwalker was Microsoft's trojan horse into Japan, and it fish-flopped through the Jade gate. This makes me very sad, as Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were my two favorite console JRPGs this generation.

Personally, I think Sony and Microsoft's next consoles will be streamlined and moderately more powerful versions of their current hardware. I could easily see the PS4 containing 12 SPUs clocked to 3.6 Ghz. If Wii U is anything to go by, then system ram on both consoles will probably be bumped to a performance-enhancing but cost-effective 2GB. GPU's might be GTX 480 level.

I suspect that mid-range PC hardware will easily outclass new console hardware on day 1. Of course, that's not really a factor, when gaming experiences like Uncharted, Halo and Dark Souls are exclusive.
 
Sony PS4

Specwise it will surpass PS360 by far (think BF3 on max settings!!1), will feature a new Controller called the G-shock, basically a DS3 with some minor upgrades here and there, no screen.

399$ - release Holiday 2012 in the Japans, early 2013 in the US of A and EU

Launch line-up: Colony Wars - nuff said


MS xXx

Specwise between Wii U and PS4, will come with Kinect 2.0 in the box and an entirely new Controller split in two.

349$ - release Holiday 2012....in the World!

Launch line-up: Halo 4 and Age of Empires Kinect
 
magicaltrevor said:
O REALLY?

Then where is my CROSS-GAME VOICE CHAT FOR PS3?!

j/k... But seriously, I think next year is too soon. Maybe they'll debute it at E3 2013, which means we'll see it released somewhere in 2014.


they obviously know we want it, that is why it is on the PSV. probably some limitation like breaking xmb compatibility with older games, seeing as it wasn't implemeented right from the beginning.
 
Sony's next will be a conglomerate. It'll have a built in PSEye and Vita functionality/streaming. What i'm not sure about is the controller.

MS's might just be very kinect heavy period, not sure.
 
GreekWolf said:
They've already done that, after Sakaguchi's funding came to an abrupt halt. Mistwalker was Microsoft's trojan horse into Japan, and it fish-flopped through the Jade gate. This makes me very sad, as Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were my two favorite console JRPGs this generation.

Personally, I think Sony and Microsoft's next consoles will be streamlined and moderately more powerful versions of their current hardware. I could easily see the PS4 containing 12 SPUs clocked to 3.6 Ghz. If Wii U is anything to go by, then system ram on both consoles will probably be bumped to a performance-enhancing but cost-effective 2GB. GPU's might be GTX 480 level.

I suspect that mid-range PC hardware will easily outclass new console hardware on day 1. Of course, that's not really a factor, when gaming experiences like Uncharted, Halo and Dark Souls are exclusive.
I think it kinda sucks that MS has stopped throwing their weight around in terms of making new IPs, securing exclusives for both retail and arcade, and pushing into markets that aren't necessarily big money makers (like having a Racing Wheel or doing 1 vs 100).
 
Next year at E3 both will announce their systems and both will have graphical updates that will play the samiritan demo and be a noticeable improvement over WiiU.

Xbox will continue with kinect and feature some of wiiU's features. Sony likewise will incorporate the more popular wiiU features and use Vita as a companion to partially do so. Both will have their own gimmicks and such though.

Both of the above are must haves if you want to convince people why they should purchase your new system and why it's better to skip wiiU and wait for theirs.

I also expect in conjunction with the announcements a significant price drop for their current gen consoles to keep sales steady and a push on current gen games which will help buffer against the wiiUs release which afterall, will have a lot of games that will already be available for 360/ps3
 
I'm not so sure they should even make new consoles. It seems too much trouble for the money they are making off it.
Maybe they should both make a gaming tablet that can connect to a television. But I really don't get why they bother. Unlike Nintendo they have other markets, and the games departments just barely makes any money for them in the long run.
 
Cromat said:
I'm not so sure they should even make new consoles. It seems too much trouble for the money they are making off it.
Maybe they should both make a gaming tablet that can connect to a television. But I really don't get why they bother. Unlike Nintendo they have other markets, and the games departments just barely makes any money for them in the long run.
Both companies have already hired staff for next gen console planning and development. It's coming.
 
Cromat said:
I'm not so sure they should even make new consoles. It seems too much trouble for the money they are making off it.
Maybe they should both make a gaming tablet that can connect to a television. But I really don't get why they bother. Unlike Nintendo they have other markets, and the games departments just barely makes any money for them in the long run.

Xbox doesn't make a lot of money for MS but its a huge driver in terms of Consumer interest which is important to make sure they don't become an IBM in the minds of everyone.
 
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