Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Seems there has been some ongoing events with Apollo this year and he decided to take his own life. RIP.
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Speedrun Community YouTuber Apollo Legend Passes Away
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Seems there has been some ongoing events with Apollo this year and he decided to take his own life. RIP.
Adding in some context thanks to
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Yui's Empire
Member
Sad story all around. He definitely made mistakes, but other youtubers and their fanbase decided that they're reason enough to keep harassing him and continue to make clickbait videos about his controversies, even a year after he left the scene. Now some of those people are playing the "he was a great friend" card.
He's had a lot of entertaining videos, and he'll be missed.
He's had a lot of entertaining videos, and he'll be missed.
TheContact
Member
some more info regarding his death:
On the 31st of December 2020, Apollo Legend uploaded a 7-minute-long video to YouTube entitled "READ DESCRIPTION, VERY IMPORTANT" after being inactive for months. This video was effectively a suicide note, in which Apollo said he was about to commit suicide due to several severe and incurable physical health problems, as well as severe mental health problems. In the description of the video, he mentioned that he has scoliosis which causes his "back, hips and shoulders to ache constantly". He also mentioned that he vomits every day, and has further even worse problems that he is not comfortable talking about. In the video, he claimed that his physical health issues had been getting worse and would continue to get worse throughout his life, and that he would "rather just leave while I still have some dignity". Apollo also wrote in the description "Thank you to DarkViper and EZScape for giving me the final push that I needed", referring to two other YouTubers he had previously feuded with. This instigated further drama in the speedrun YouTube community, with people arguing about DarkViper and EZScape's level of responsibility for the suicide. However, it appears that health problems were by far the primary reason for Apollo's suicide, and the line about DarkViper and EZScape was simply a final jab from Apollo as he decided to let it all out in his final moments.
The video was promptly deleted from YouTube due to violation of the Community Guidelines (suicide note videos are against the Community Guidelines), but Apollo clearly anticipated this and left a download link in the description, so the video was still shared around and reuploaded very quickly. Soon after, various people such as @TheSpectreRep on Twitter called Apollo's local police department, after which a deputy confirmed that Apollo had been found deceased.
Suicide and Death
On the 31st of December 2020, Apollo Legend uploaded a 7-minute-long video to YouTube entitled "READ DESCRIPTION, VERY IMPORTANT" after being inactive for months. This video was effectively a suicide note, in which Apollo said he was about to commit suicide due to several severe and incurable physical health problems, as well as severe mental health problems. In the description of the video, he mentioned that he has scoliosis which causes his "back, hips and shoulders to ache constantly". He also mentioned that he vomits every day, and has further even worse problems that he is not comfortable talking about. In the video, he claimed that his physical health issues had been getting worse and would continue to get worse throughout his life, and that he would "rather just leave while I still have some dignity". Apollo also wrote in the description "Thank you to DarkViper and EZScape for giving me the final push that I needed", referring to two other YouTubers he had previously feuded with. This instigated further drama in the speedrun YouTube community, with people arguing about DarkViper and EZScape's level of responsibility for the suicide. However, it appears that health problems were by far the primary reason for Apollo's suicide, and the line about DarkViper and EZScape was simply a final jab from Apollo as he decided to let it all out in his final moments.
The video was promptly deleted from YouTube due to violation of the Community Guidelines (suicide note videos are against the Community Guidelines), but Apollo clearly anticipated this and left a download link in the description, so the video was still shared around and reuploaded very quickly. Soon after, various people such as @TheSpectreRep on Twitter called Apollo's local police department, after which a deputy confirmed that Apollo had been found deceased.
Night.Ninja
Banned
Whst did he do that was controversial
S73v3
Banned
lol @ spitefully name dropping on suicide
I've had that shit done to me once, guy thought with his last pathetic dying breathe that he could fuck my life over.
Didn't work, One 20 min phone call and an email with some screen shots is all I needed to do to shut that down.
What a tool.
I've had that shit done to me once, guy thought with his last pathetic dying breathe that he could fuck my life over.
Didn't work, One 20 min phone call and an email with some screen shots is all I needed to do to shut that down.
What a tool.
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Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
He went after that dude with the Donkey Kong arcade machine high score amongst other things. I really liked his content, I wish there was someone who could have saved him from going over the edge into the darkness of eternity but it's too late now.
RIP.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Just when you think social media can't get any weirder, you've seen it all or are desensitized to news:
A speedrunner blaming other speedrunners for his suicide.
People got to get with the program. I know the net is fun and you get social aspects out of it, but in life you got to just get a job and go through life. And let's face it, speedrunners can only be speedrunners if they are spending all day and night playing the same game to shave off 10 seconds here and there. They basically view it as a job. And IMO, that is not the kind of job to go through life especially if you got mental issues to begin with.
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
SuperGooey
Member
No. Apollo Legend dealt with a lifetime of depression as well as other chronic mental and physical health problems.
This is a bummer. He pretty much introduced me to the world of speedrunning. He did some shitty stuff, and namedropping two people for "pushing" him into suicide was pretty scummy, but I feel bad for the guy. He clearly had a lot of problems.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Reading a bit more into him, he even had a beef with the Donkey Kong dude Billy Mitchell where he did a video about him cheating and they actually had a legal dispute about it.
Who gives a shit about mullet head Billy Mitchell. The guy spends most of his time with a BBQ restaurant. Billy Mitchell claiming a DK record is that important?
Here's a big article with various stuff.
www.sportskeeda.com
Who gives a shit about mullet head Billy Mitchell. The guy spends most of his time with a BBQ restaurant. Billy Mitchell claiming a DK record is that important?
Here's a big article with various stuff.
YouTuber "Apollo Legend" reportedly found dead at home hours after suicide letter surfaced online
Recently, various sources have confirmed that Benjamin "Apollo Legend” Smith was found dead at his home yesterday, on December 30th.
www.sportskeeda.com
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Handy Fake
Member
You're not in your right mind when you're in the throes of the Black Dog. Lashing out is common.No. Apollo Legend dealt with a lifetime of depression as well as other chronic mental and physical health problems.
This is a bummer. He pretty much introduced me to the world of speedrunning. He did some shitty stuff, and namedropping two people for "pushing" him into suicide was pretty scummy, but I feel bad for the guy. He clearly had a lot of problems.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I just checked his YT channel for the first time.No. Apollo Legend dealt with a lifetime of depression as well as other chronic mental and physical health problems.
This is a bummer. He pretty much introduced me to the world of speedrunning. He did some shitty stuff, and namedropping two people for "pushing" him into suicide was pretty scummy, but I feel bad for the guy. He clearly had a lot of problems.
His most recent videos (a year ago when he said he quit) are about speedrun cheaters like he's speedrun police. And that excludes his Billy Mitchel DK video articles talk about. Guy was obsessed with speedrunning.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
A fitting tribute would be a speed-run funeral service.
SuperGooey
Member
Ok? And because his youtube channel was about speedrunning, you're assuming that's why he killed himself? You don't think he had a life outside of youtube? If his youtube channel was about fishing, would you assume that he killed himself over not catching any fish?
For the record, many of his videos were either removed by him, or in the case of his suicide message video (where he clearly states that he suffers from chronic illnesses that only get worse with time), or youtube itself.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Maybe, but in this case his physical health was also a factor. Mental illness multiplies external problems you already have, so if you're dealing with daily vomiting and chronic pain you can imagine the toll that would take.
RIP
No
Because an act like that just sends other mobs after other people. Trying to take down others with you and ruin their life is despicable too. That has nothing to do with *class*.
We even have someone in this thread
S73v3
that nearly got his life fucked over because of a similar situation. Should he have just taken the hit?
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He definitely set a record with this playthrough that no one will ever beat.
So yes, very fitting.
It's the coward's way out. Life sucks. We all have to deal with it despite mental, financial, emotional, marital, psychological, sexual, spiritual, familial, or professional challenges. You either fight, or you tap out. If someone chooses to wipe themselves out, that's their choice. There's only so much you can do to try and help others. If they aren't willing to be helped, then ... ?
S73v3
Banned
:^) I was a pretty big 4channer so.....
I remember when big tits were considered "alt hentai" and the spastic arguments over the topic, I also remember when pol was just satire.... I left cause of all the ribbing of illegal bullshit, haven't been back for like 7 years
Man had incurable mental and physical health problems fuck off dude.
People don't take their own lives out of some cowardly avoidance to get help you self righteous fuck it's not exactly fun to do especially when you don't know what it's like and your very instincts are about death aversion so the pain is so bad and inescapable that you have to go against all of this and plunge into the unknown.
Sorry this doesn't fit your childish macho man world view but some problems aren't fixable and are incredibly painful so death is the merciful option.
Unless the help is available and you willing to help said person adequately btw yeah not all help is adequate sorry STFU about suicide.
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Majima Everywhere System
Member
From what I’ve seen of the speedrunning community, the human cost is just too high. No one exits it unscathed.
S73v3
Banned
Sorry bro, he did some name drops before he decided to become an hero.
He had issues but his last lash out of spite needs to be mocked.
namekuseijin
Banned
it's his life and he does with it as he pleases, much to the disgust of control freaks who live off other people's misery
his best speedrun
his best speedrun
I don't really care about that mock away but the second someone just passes suicide as just wanting an easy and cowardly way out as if it's anything remotely easy as if offing yourself isn't a herculean tax in of itself is utterly deranged and disgusting.
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Sleepwalker
Member
May he RIP.
Namedropping people in his suicide note was a scummy thing to do and I can't respect that. Specially he said pain was his reason for ending it all, why try inflict pain as your last parting action?
Namedropping people in his suicide note was a scummy thing to do and I can't respect that. Specially he said pain was his reason for ending it all, why try inflict pain as your last parting action?
01011001
Banned
he once defended a literal nazi, not Twitter outrage mob """nazi""" but literally a nazi, after said nazi was banned from GDQ.
I liked his content and this was definitely a big misstep for him.
he also gave up in the fight against Billy "Confirmed Cheater" Mitchell which made a lot of his fans really disappointed in him. but it was understandable because he would have had a years long legal battle which can be very emotionally exhausting
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Nah. I plan to go to Sweden or wherever assisted suicide is legal when I'm ready to depart. I'll wait until I'm old and shit, but I'm not going to sit around being miserable. I've watched 2 close relatives die in the hospital. I'm not going out that way--I will die on my own terms.
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That's *entirely* different.
Your opinion on the matter is moot, as is mine in the grand scheme of things. People are gonna do people things all day, every day, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.
People have shit to deal with in life. Tough. Keep swimming or drown, but you're a coward if you off yourself and leave others to pick up the pieces. Assisted suicide is one exception I can make here, as you're exiting in a 'respectful' way and not leaving a decomposing corpse for someone to sweep up like this dude.
"But life is hard! That's so cruel!" Aight, catch the next stop out. Bye Felicia. I've gone through and seen more hardship than you know, and came out stronger for it. So no, I don't have respect, nor do I feel sorry, for this:
Even worse, as he needlessly looped others into it. He can't handle some critical internet comments, and chooses to publicly demonize (and permanently scar) them on the way out? Dude, kiss my ass and get out of here.
Zero respect.
EDIT: Lastly, if you're trying to validate a guy's actions by mental health ... again, no. He doesn't get a free pass because of ailments. Sorry. "He can't help it" or "he's in a dark place" doesn't validate defending white supremacy, blaming others for his mortality situation, or any of the other BS he's pulled.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Get of your high horse. Everyone has a breaking point. I hope you never reach that point like he did.
This guy was a gamer dealing with internet comments, not a beaten housewife living in fear of habitual abuse or a soldier having witnessed the deaths of children by his own hand. A generation of pussies.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
What part of he had incurable mental and physical illnesses do you find hard to grasp?
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
He was suffering from medical aliments that would only get worse with age.
Remarkable how people have been able to survive these "incurable mental and physical illnesses" for the entirety of human existence until we started medicating and coddling everything.
bender
What time is it?
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Except no, they haven't. We all have different limits to what we can take. You just haven't passed that threshold yet which is why you can act like an insufferable cunt
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Spokker
Member
Hard to judge this without knowing the specific diagnosis and how often he saw his doctor. It's entirely possible that he did have these health issues, but combined with his mental health issues, led to a situation where he did not seek the help he needed. It's also entirely possible he did everything he could to help himself physically but that his condition was unable to be treated.
Instead of name dropping two people he wanted to hurt on the way out, he should have dropped some medical charts.
Troglodyte
Banned
I work around death and suffering on a daily basis. Its a shame that some people in the world take their health for granted and live in ignorance in regards to others health.
Some just don't know what its like to have chronic pain and the physical and mental toll it takes on not only the person but their family.
I also think we need more focus on mental health, not only for ones suffering from mental illnesses but also for all the people who are uneducated and pass judgment
Some just don't know what its like to have chronic pain and the physical and mental toll it takes on not only the person but their family.
I also think we need more focus on mental health, not only for ones suffering from mental illnesses but also for all the people who are uneducated and pass judgment