That's the main point though... firstly regardless of the tweet asking him the question all platforms are involved in this PC/XB1/PS4. Two of these platforms can crossplay, and two cannot...
We have the main figurehead of a company pointing out he wants crossplay for a game that they already had crossplay removed from for whatever reason weeks ago. And based on tweets and messages from Darren Suggs one of the main devs of Fortnite this was entirely in MS court. So there in lies the problem... you have MS main figure and talking head saying X but you have MS who has done nothing but Y for this specific title. As people have pointed out it's complete hyperbole. He's saying one thing but MS has done the complete opposite for Fortnite.
Honestly searching through all the epic game forums and his twitter I'm not coming across it. The initial reports on the epic forums was the issue with Xbox-PC crossplay had to do with the fact that MS requires Xbox-PC crossplay to be a part of The Play Anywhere policy and this game having crossbuy with PS4 and PC makes that impossible. But I'm honestly not finding the quote itself just finding lots of posts alluding to that. But it may have been said during a Dev video or their 5 year plan video. I'm at work currently so cannot watch videos but I'll attempt to find his own words when I get home instead of posts alluding to his words.
Because all you're doing is assuming what one companies decision is, is the same plan and or direction every company is taking. What Capcom chooses and decides to do has pretty much zero effect on what Epic chooses to do.
In the instance of Fortnite I could easily say that going off past experience of them having crossplay removed from Fortnite for PC-XB1 I could easily say that regardless of what they say their stance is on Crossplay that for every title from now on that could possibly support it I could just assume that after a few weeks of having crossplay working MS will just up and have it removed as per policy issue? Because that's what happen with Fortnite so surely that will be MS route for every game? See how that doesn't really work well? Even though it's just another developer right?
I just can't tell anymore.
Do you have links to those? I've only heard about the patch notes
It's deductive logic based on what they said in the past in regards to FF XIV:
1) about their stance on keeping the community TOGETHER
2) the fact that they don't want to make seperate servers specifically for Xbox users
3) fact that Sony currently isn't supporting PS4 to Xbox crossplay....
If those three points lead you to believe they'll do an Xbox port as soon as their certification needs are met; I don't know what to tell ya. Maybe you have insider sources that are going to tell us the FF XIV port is on the way?
I wasn't referring to Fortnite at all here, I was only talking about FF XIV in my reply to that person. No idea how you keep trying to push the argument there... literally a completely random strawman, I have no idea how my reply about FF XIV relates to Epic or Fortnite and it's pretty clear that I didn't imply there was a correlation.
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It's funny though, instead of actually addressing what I'm typing your first choice was to go look up my post history... oh shit, nothing there when you find out I game on PS4 Pro, Switch, PC and Xbox, then you go for "Junior Member", like I give a damn, there's probably a good reason for it btw, but it's not what you think (ask a mod). Then when all else fails, push another argument that I wasn't making with you?
Saw these for his replies on twitter. Guess if you line them up with the patch notes that had been removed...
Thread: https://twitter.com/onealja/status/894632139370577920
@FortniteGame why was cross play removed for xbox one and PC. I'm upset because now I can't play with my friends.
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg Aug 7
Replying to @onealja @FortniteGame
The reason is in our patch notes. I haven't given up though. (That may not mean anything though...)
Thread: https://twitter.com/Guenhwyvarrrr/status/894656767002525696
@FortniteGame Still no response on the removal of #crossplay ?
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg
Replying to @Guenhwyvarrrr @FortniteGame
Check our patch notes for more details on that.
Saw these for his replies on twitter. Guess if you line them up with the patch notes that had been removed...
Thread: https://twitter.com/onealja/status/894632139370577920
@FortniteGame why was cross play removed for xbox one and PC. I'm upset because now I can't play with my friends.
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg Aug 7
Replying to @onealja @FortniteGame
The reason is in our patch notes. I haven't given up though. (That may not mean anything though...)
Thread: https://twitter.com/Guenhwyvarrrr/status/894656767002525696
@FortniteGame Still no response on the removal of #crossplay ?
Darren Sugg‏ @DarrenSugg
Replying to @Guenhwyvarrrr @FortniteGame
Check our patch notes for more details on that.
You're in a thread that completely pertains to Fortnite.... how is that a strawman when it's literally the point of the thread?
Even better, I'm hoping MS/Sony will say one day "We are happy to announce FREE MULTIPLAYER IS BACK...no more pay to play!" How about we push these asshole companies to do that? We all want it, sure they make so much money now but I am not a stock holder so fuck that. Why isnt the gaming community pushing for that? Its sorta like affordable heath care. It should be included in the box, not an extra fee.
No, to me it seems both parties do not have an agreement on this and will not do shit about it. Phil Spencer can say what he wants but will he show us proof that they, MS, want all games to be "Cross-platform" including PC or is he playing along? Is Sony's PR being genuine with the "safe guarding" of their base or just BS? To me it just sounds like non of them want to come together and work towards this. Blame it on Sony all you want but its clear both of them do not support this. They could make a big E3 announcement (think the "used games" thing Sony pulled) but it has to be clear that the $60 you pay enables it not "oh Phil said it, so its true".
Journalist should investigate why both parties aren't coming together. Why doesn't someone make a panel with the Sony and MS guys in stage and ask them the tough questions? "When can we play 'cross-platform'?", "Aren't we paying to play on the console?, why can't I chose who to play with"? etc etc.
Going after one group is not helping as the other party just idles in the background glad they aren't being asked anything. Makes them look like the "good guys" so why mess that up i suppose.
Rocket League on the Nintendo Switch will offer cross-platform play between the Switch, PC and Xbox One. This builds upon the existing cross-platform play feature that allows PC and Xbox One and (separately) PC and PS4 players to play with one another. But Rocket League developer Pysonix has now confirmed that the Switch version does not offer cross-platform play with the PS4, although the company did not provide a reason as to why that is the case.
Microsoft is *the* giant, greedy, corporation and everyone knows it. In this case they want to do something that many of us as customers want, so we're endorsing it.
Snark might make you feel better, in which case, good for you, but imagine if you put that energy into positive change like helping to get cross play going instead.
I honestly don't care about cross-platform play unless the game needs it (MMO's).
It really should be up to the devs to force Sony and MS to cooperate.
Shitty agenda by MS and nice guy phil. The same company that wants to ringfenced users into their windows store.Crossplay between every platform would be a beautiful thing. Too bad the ceo's of the video game consoles don't agree.
Shitty agenda by MS and nice guy phil. The same company that wants to ringfenced users into their windows store.
Damn those sinister agendas that give consumers what they want! Damn them all to hell!
Damn those sinister agendas that give consumers what they want! Damn them all to hell!
I wonder if there are consumers that don't want crossplay or do you speak for them all?
Stop defending them CookTrain, if their agenda wasn't shitty they would have first party games on Steam like Sony does.
Thank you based Sony for protecting my PS4 from all of the filthy X-box gamers.I wonder if there are consumers that don't want crossplay or do you speak for them all?
I wonder if there are consumers that don't want crossplay or do you speak for them all?
I recognize how a consumer would want this feature but from a business point of view, I understand why they're not allowing it to be implemented.
Why would you allow your direct competitor to share your user base when you're the market leader? If Microsoft was #1, they would block it too.
Crossplay can be an opt-in feature. They could throw in with parental settings or somewhere for a default system level option or on a game-per basis devs could always give you the option.
Developers have been going on record discussing MS's policy in regards to crossplay for over a decade now. And now in a situation which doesn't really add up to what they've said to the public in regards to crossplay and now even specifically addressing this game directly...? It really doesn't add up.
Out of all the companies out there now, Epic games would be the very last on the list of them that I think would have a problem publicly talking about MS policy on anything. Tim Sweeney has put them on blast without the slightest hesitation, calling out bs wherever he sees it in regards to MS. I don't think it'd be possible to convince me that all of a sudden Epic are ready to put on kid gloves and not make a stance against MS known.
It remains a possibility it was removed for other reasons, right? Phil Spencers position after it was removed the second time clearly points that he and Xbox were for crossplay. I don't think they're being ambiguous or disingenuous.
Hey Spencer. where are all these new games and investments you promised? Still waiting.
That's what my Xbox really needs.
Apparently some people here feel the xbone really needs some ps4 friends.
Shitty agenda by MS and nice guy phil. The same company that wants to ringfenced users into their windows store.
Apparently some people here feel the xbone really needs some ps4 friends.
I'm still trying to make heads or tails of these tweets by Sweeney months ago,
http://wccftech.com/sweeney-platforms-embrace-crossplay-sony/
Tim Sweeney @TimSweeneyEpic
With a bunch of engineering work, I think an engine (or individual game) could implement that functionality on its own.
Got be honest: don't care.
Hey Spencer. where are all these new games and investments you promised? Still waiting.
That's what my Xbox really needs.
My name is Phil Spencer and I'll say anything to make me look like the good guy
How does he explain MS blocking PC/X1 crossplay in the same fucking game? You guys are real gullible with his bullshit.
How does he explain MS blocking PC/X1 crossplay in the same fucking game? You guys are real gullible with his bullshit.
Hey Spencer. where are all these new games and investments you promised? Still waiting.
That's what my Xbox really needs.
Why do these threads always turn into list wars and salty sony fans pointing out that ms was not allowing crossplay last gen?
If my network was full of holes like psn was last gen id be wary of intergration as well...cant say i still trust psn considering your ip address is visible to the public whenever you are in party chat
I think people need to look at the bigger picture rather than trying to defend a shitty buisiness decision