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Spider-Man: Homecoming |OT| MCU's Sweet 16 - SPOILERS
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That's why I don't think it will happen, at least not in the cliche way everyone's thinking. Until the movie was over, I didn't realize just how fucking glad I was that they didn't make her go through some glow up for Homecoming, where she stuns Peter and ends up being Peter's date, much less saying the line.
Their interpretation of MJ is extremely interesting to me, can't wait to see where it goes.
Heh
Maybe, I'd be fine with something like that.
EDIT: Heavy sarcasm also works.
FUBAR McDangles
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She's probably going to say it really sarcastically and it's going to be hilarious.
Gordon Shumway
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JonnyDBrit
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This talk of whether or not Ben's alive makes me realise one thing I hope they don't tackle in too much depth - Peter's parents.
... the intro to BvS was masterful along with the Zimmer score and integral to movie...
George Oscar Bluth II
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I bet this is the case. That mascot is a tiger for a reason.
Martha!
It really bummed me out that Zendaya is MJ - not because of her ethnicity but as you said they have completely changed her role. I was hoping we would get a more classic take on Pete and his supporting cast.
A good version of the Gwen/MJ/Pete story but doubt we will get that now.
Have no issues with Flash or Liz.
Ned was wonderful in the film but I hope his real name is Ganke and he just chooses to go by Ned. Also makes me wonder what they will do with Harry and Norman... I hope they introduce Harry at least in the next film and only get to the Goblin stuff around the 5th film. I have a feeling the Osborns will be back too.
... Are you serious? What do either of those things have to do with Deadpool?
And you still ignored the fact that Deadpool's personality is an extreme version of Spider-Man. What you're saying is simply wrong unless you don't know about the characters from the comics.
……forgetit
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Idk, there were a lot of laughs in my theater last year, both at the over dramatic "Martha" and again when Bruce is being lifted in the air like a bat familiar Jesus
Prototype Viktor
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It's clear if they been selling weapons and Spidermans been doing it for maybe 8 months by the start of the movie he ain't did shit but make web in terms of usefulness. Most of his time would have been boredom and finding out what he can stick to
Also the Community Glee Club joke
DG's cousin will obviously be Miles
For people bemoaning how we haven't seen Uncle Ben are forgetting that this is the third Spider-Man reboot meaning that we and other people have seen the whole Spider-Man origin story twice, we don't need to see it a third time and have it drag down the movie.
Urgh, I hated how Peter was like "I need to track down Uncle Ben killer" then promptly forgot about later in the movie and was more interested in his parents in Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Sony clearly had no idea what they were doing with the Amazing Spider-Man movies, oh well Amazing Spider-Man 2 under preforming was a blessing as it lead to Spider-Man being in the MCU...just gotta hope that they keep their hands to themselves and don't mess up a good thing and cancel all future plans of foolishly creating a Spider-Man cinematic universe.
That's what frustrates me as Gwen was wasted in the Amazing Spider-Man movies, especially her death as for some stupid reason Sony tried to absolve Peter the blame of her death completely missing the impact that her death had on Peter.
I wonder if Mary-Jane will be in Homecoming as she was barely a character in Raimi movies and more of a glorified damsel in distress for three movie straight.
Urgh, I hated how Peter was like "I need to track down Uncle Ben killer" then promptly forgot about later in the movie and was more interested in his parents in Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Sony clearly had no idea what they were doing with the Amazing Spider-Man movies, oh well Amazing Spider-Man 2 under preforming was a blessing as it lead to Spider-Man being in the MCU...just gotta hope that they keep their hands to themselves and don't mess up a good thing and cancel all future plans of foolishly creating a Spider-Man cinematic universe.
That's what frustrates me as Gwen was wasted in the Amazing Spider-Man movies, especially her death as for some stupid reason Sony tried to absolve Peter the blame of her death completely missing the impact that her death had on Peter.
I wonder if Mary-Jane will be in Homecoming as she was barely a character in Raimi movies and more of a glorified damsel in distress for three movie straight.
Secret Fawful
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I really liked the soundtrack during the final fight on the plane, as well as the neon visuals of the malfunctioning cloaking.
"I am killer, Spider!"
"I am killer, Spider!"
Pai Pai Master
Banned
They were tense and exciting while also showing some restraint - it's tough to make interesting fights when you hero isn't actually that good at fighting yet.
I loved seeing Vulture fight off Peter like an actual bird defending its nest at the end.
Yeah it was cool when Toomes realized Peter was there when the cloaking cameras caught him and reflected his image across the plane.
I'd pay to see Paul Giamatti's Rhino again
one of the jabronis in the movie biz playing one of the jabronis in Spider Man's rogues gallery
it was a match made in heaven
Fast Forward
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This movie was a LOT of fun. Tough to where to rank among the Spidey movies, but it's definitely way up there.
I will say this. The movie, by far, more than any other Spidey movie, does a GREAT job of conveying Peter being a teenager, and what would happen if a teenager in his shoes got super powers.
I will say this. The movie, by far, more than any other Spidey movie, does a GREAT job of conveying Peter being a teenager, and what would happen if a teenager in his shoes got super powers.
JonnyDBrit
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I'd pay to see Paul Giamatti's Rhino again
It's still frustrating what an absolute tease the advertising was with Rhino's presence in the film. Sure, opening scene was kinda fun, but only having him armour up at the very end? Bah.
Violence Jack
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2nd best Spidey film, just a lot more fun than Tobey's first film. But it's not on Spider-Man 2 level.
Was that Tom Hardy in an uncredited role as the henchman who threatened to go public with news of who Keaton's character was?
I lost it at the "you should kiss her" line as Spidey is hanging upside down in the elevator. Nice nod to the first Spidey film.
I don't like that Zendaya doesn't have a last name. One name only stars always bothered me. But I love this version of MJ.
I should've seen the Liz is The Vulture's daughter coming a mile away, but it threw me off cause I didn't think she was mixed.
And that 2nd post credits Captain America troll was glorious.
Was that Tom Hardy in an uncredited role as the henchman who threatened to go public with news of who Keaton's character was?
I lost it at the "you should kiss her" line as Spidey is hanging upside down in the elevator. Nice nod to the first Spidey film.
I don't like that Zendaya doesn't have a last name. One name only stars always bothered me. But I love this version of MJ.
I should've seen the Liz is The Vulture's daughter coming a mile away, but it threw me off cause I didn't think she was mixed.
And that 2nd post credits Captain America troll was glorious.
Grassclipper
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I liked the movie, it got the characterization down really great. However it felt unfocused, for example, MJ/Michelle served no purpose at all, she didn't drive the plot forward and she didn't effect Peter in any way either. While I didn't mind her inclusion it didn't have any payoff whatsoever. Flash had a similarly small role but served a purpose by showing us that Peter is not that much of a popular guy in school.
... Really?
darkhunger
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Probably saving her for Spider-Gwen
Secret Fawful
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It was Logan Marshall-Green.
Keaton fucking blew Molina out of the water. No contest.
Fast Forward
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Speaking of Michelle, can someone explain that to me? The wink at the end by saying she is MJ? Is she post to be alternate version of Mary Jane, or something? Or is she just a different character who is also called MJ?
Gordon Shumway
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lol..
Pai Pai Master
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Her name is Michelle Jones. She is the MCU version of "MJ." She's not Mary Jane Watson.
Honestly I agree, I just felt like I had to say that for some reason lmao
That car scene was something else.
Mr. Smiley
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bodyofanamerican
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The suit being so "Stark-techy" in this didn't bother me because a) it gives this version of the character a concrete connection to the rest of the MCU and b) the scene with him and Ned turning the training wheels protocols off/Peter finding and removing the tracker opens up some cool ideas.
It seeds the idea that Peter isn't scared to crack the suit open and tinker with it, and after showing him being overwhelmed with the amount of webbing options available to him, I bet he'll have used his smarts to customize it pretty extensively in the next film, making it much more "his".
It seeds the idea that Peter isn't scared to crack the suit open and tinker with it, and after showing him being overwhelmed with the amount of webbing options available to him, I bet he'll have used his smarts to customize it pretty extensively in the next film, making it much more "his".
Pocky4Th3Win
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Loved the movie. I took Michelle as being this universes MJ and the switch that she's chasing him and not the other way.
She's the MJ of this version of Spider Man.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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It would be a good way to introduce JJ, who created him in the comics
Fast Forward
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In regards to Uncle Ben, I just assume he's dead, and enough time has passed since his death to get passed the grieving stage.
In either case, much like the Wayne parents, I don't ever need to see Uncle Ben die again.
In either case, much like the Wayne parents, I don't ever need to see Uncle Ben die again.
Prototype Viktor
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Do you know what tomboy is? Or are we in the 90's
Subpar Spatula
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Him getting it wrong isn't the issue, it's him stopping when his suit is taken away when he's been doing it -- and he should know not all are wins. It's poorly telegraphed because you have to display failure pretty well but they do not. These movies need a dramatic weight or else it's very hard to thematically understand. This is why Uncle Ben works really well because he's a recognizable catalyst for change in Peter. When Peter in Homecoming loses his suit you're left wondering, "just what exactly occurred to make him so down?" The logical answer was Tony scolded him but that needs to be batted home to work. It didn't here because there's really no weight to "people could have died (but didn't thanks to my magic machines)".
It could be argued it's due to him wanting to be grown up and him wrestling with it but that is shallow as well. I use shallow because its to define simple. Simple is easy. You can say "A obviously leads to B" and that's it. You just need to make the connection and for lots of people it works. That's fine but that's all it will ever be is fine because things can be undeveloped, not involved, unearned, or whatever term wants to be used to describe something that could be better but wasn't.
The movie is clear but it's done in a pretty bare bones way.
It's the way their shot (linger, parallel to other acts for comedy, the general silliness to his approaches). You can say Deadpool is an amped up version but it's still shot this way. This isn't a slant against the film, it just reminds me of it. Don't know why you believe it's bad for it to remind me of Deadpool.