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Spider-Man: Homecoming trailer 3
- Thread starter Biggest-Geek-Ever
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And the fact we've spent what 10 minutes in high school with Peter across 5 movies.
Vampfox
Banned
I really don't get the love for Ultimate Spider-Man. It changed way too much stuff for my taste(looking at you Ultimate Green Goblin).
I grew up with a married Spider-Man. Would love a movie based on the Renew Your Vows comics.
I think adult Spider-Man is way more important to the franchise than teenage Spider-Man.
It's sad to see the Spider-Man that I grew up with being replaced with teenage Spider-Man.
You totally missed Peter doing Spider-Man stuff in civil War, didn't you? He's been at this for quite some time now, this is anything but an origin story.
Don't get me wrong, I'll see this at the theater or most likely at home but I'm just not feeling this trailer or any of the previous ones. Can't put my finger on it exactly. Sorta feels like been there done that to me. Idk, maybe I'm just not a huge Spider-Man fan.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
I mean fair enough if you are not a big MCU fan but for me, it's great. I love the interactions between the characters. It's a live action comic book, so having these characters meet up, fight or work together, makes it feel more like the comics than the movies that exist in their own little bubble, separate from each other.
Also the last few Spider-Man movies have hardly been fantastic, so I'm down for Marvel to have some control over it, Sony clearly needed a hand making a decent Spider-Man movie and they made the right call doing the deal with Marvel.
It's fine to have that opinion but it's one of the most beloved comic runs ever.
That isn't a thing that's happening.
I get where you are coming from, not exactly thrilled to see so much Stark there myself. But we had 5 big Spidey films without MCU already so it's okay to switch it up abit.
hipsterpants
Member
He's fighting his first supervillain and is "learning to be a hero" and all that stuff. It's an origin story minus the very beginning.
excelsiorlef
Member
"The very beginning" that usually takes up somewhere between 45 minutes to over half a super hero movie...
That's a lot of extra time that gets to go to more interesting stuff.
More_Badass
Member
Ultimate Spiderman is Spiderman, for me. Then again, I grew up with that version and it was the first series I would go out and buy trades for. Adult Spidey is the weirdest thing, always seems off. Spiderman as a teen, juggling crimefighting with high school, being the hopeful unproven kid foil to the older veteran Avengers/other heroes...no other portrayal comes close to getting to the core of the character
90s cartoon Spidey is a distant second place
My man.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Spider-Man is more famous, yeah but you know full well what the poster is saying and how its tied to box office revenue. That definitely holds up as an argument.
I mean, they're in this position because they made two bad Spider-Man movies. I would be shocked if this was worse than AMS2.
Also, we don't really know how much MCU is in this. I'd wager Stark's scenes are few-and-far between and he's there like 'fucks sake' a few times but the only other MCU reference is that Vulture and his crew seem to be getting their tech from harvesting the sites of Avenger's battles (most likely NY most of all). I mean, I don't really have an issue here. Yeah, they could opt to not have Stark in but for all this bad shit to be going down when he is literally in the same city is a bit... weird.
I just don't see the logic of assuming it would be better outside of the MCU just for merit of being outside the MCU.
ReplacementPelican
Member
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Sorry
Sorry
We have never seen Teenage Spider-Mam really, the best we got was the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon. People clamor for teenage Spider-Man for a reason. Plus the audience will be mostly teenagers or people close to that age alomg with everyone else.
Mac the KNife
Member
I started reading Spider-Man 5 or 6 years before the first issue of Ultimate Spider-Man dropped and quickly tracked down the earliest trades I could find. I'd implore any USM fans to check out the first fifty or so issues of Amazing Spider-Man, they do more for the character than every issue of Ultimate Spider-Man combined.
Secret Fawful
Member
I like how even when Peter Parker is mad at Tony Stark, he still has to remain deferential to him and call him "Mr. Stark".
And by like, I mean hate.
I'm with you.
And by like, I mean hate.
I'm with you.
exmachina64
Banned
No, just no.
I had a discussion similar to this with a friend the other day. I'm in agreement with you that Spider-Man as a teenager growing up while struggling with typical bullshit plus the added weight of being a superhero, whereas he prefers Spider-Man being an actual man. Couldn't convince him.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Ionno. Seemed generic. There's no enticing hook that makes you want to see it outside of the thing being a Spider-Man movie.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Same here.
Secret Fawful
Member
I recommend people actually read the original Spidey comics over the decades and truly understand his growth over the years as well as the characters around him.
My comment was a parody of people who keep bringing up Tony Stark being in this as some kind of issue, I thought I made it clear I was being sarcastic but I guess not. lol
I've read the first 50 issues of Amazing and it's fantastic, holds up like I hoped it would. But I also started reading Spidey with Ultimate(I was lucky enough to read a reprinted Amazing Fantasy #15 as my very first) and his characterization and growth in that is just as good. It's because he was in high school the whole run while still constantly doing his absolute best to be a hero that I fell in love with the character. It really made me appreciate Spider-Man's appeal, and his need to leap into action always, because of that one time he didn't. Plus Bendis was at his best, I dare say I preferred his characterization of Pete to anyone else's. Ultimate Spidey is my Spider-Man too
And come on, you can't tell me Venom's Ultimate origin isn't better than 616
And come on, you can't tell me Venom's Ultimate origin isn't better than 616
"Lmao the president is kidnapped and you're going to tell me Captain America just sits on his ass?, pathetic Marvel"
"This guy is attacking New york in the new MCU Spider-Man movie and Iron Man does his fucking job? For fuck 's sake Marvel,stop calling it Spider-Man. This is Iron Man 4!!"
"This guy is attacking New york in the new MCU Spider-Man movie and Iron Man does his fucking job? For fuck 's sake Marvel,stop calling it Spider-Man. This is Iron Man 4!!"
AgentChris
Member
Sony doesn't own the Vaio brand anymore.
MugiwaraCole
Member
That + Spectacular Spider-Man, which is arguably the best representation we've had of Spidey outside of the comics
I'm gonna be that weird guy who mentions the 2003 Spider Man Animated Series that was on MTV, I think
Peter being in college is always great and NPH does a great job as Pete/Spidey
also the art is pretty cool, decent action, the soap opera stuff is done well, etc.
worth a watch and I personally love it
I remember 11 year old me watching it for the fanservice
lol yeah, I rarely come across people who know that the show even existed
I love that show
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I watched 1 min of the first...too much new footage. Don't want to spoil.
I'm there day 1 one though. I'm hyped now.
I'm there day 1 one though. I'm hyped now.
AlexFlame116
Member
Holy crap I remember that show! I still have some of the episodes!
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I remember the intro being 2000s as fuck.
I loved this one. I had to get it on DVD and even made a RTTP thread here
which only got 10 replies
Vampfox
Banned
Yes it is. Look at how immature Peter has been written since they retcon the marriage.
It's clear that the writer's at Marvel wish that Peter was still a teenager back in high school.
Spider-Man was only in high school for the first 28 issues so you can hardly call that the core of the character.More_Badass said:
Seeing as how he's been an adult for most of the history of the franchise adult Spidey is closer to the core than teenage Spidey.
It's funny you say that after talking about how much you like teenage Spider-Man.
The 90's cartoon Spider-Man is 19, is an adult, and is in college something that you will never see again in a Spider-Man cartoon.
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Bruh I thought I was the only one who appreciated this show. I think I saw the tail end of it because it wasn't on the air after like two weeks from when I first saw it.
I eventually managed to watch at least a majority of it somewhere.
I loved that shit outta that show. MTV's Spider-Man & Spectacular Spider-Man are the default Spider-Man cartoons. I'm still really salty about Spectacular getting canceled & replaced with the crappy Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, it veered TOO far into the comedy angle for my liking. Hope the new show coming this year is good!