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SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME - Spoiler Thread

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Avi wrote it himself.

Avi was like
 

pramod

Member
BTW another minor gripe but I don't think Doc Ocks was out to kill Spiderman in the Raimi movie, his main motivation was "the power of the sun" and they kinda changed that in this movie.
 

Elbereth

Member
I think I enjoyed Andrew Garfields scenes the most out of this. Him becoming bitter and rageful after Gwen's death is fitting and I'm sad we never got to see that in a third film from him.
I’m inclined to agree with this. He definitely stole the show for me. Will be absolutely criminal to not see him as Spider-Man again.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
BTW another minor gripe but I don't think Doc Ocks was out to kill Spiderman in the Raimi movie, his main motivation was "the power of the sun" and they kinda changed that in this movie.
? how did they change it. he attacks spider-man on the highway wanting his machine back, thinking spider-man has taken it from him. he tries to kill him becuase he constantly is interfering with his plans (and his mind is hostage to the tentacle arms with a singular rage induced purpose).
 
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pramod

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? how did they change it. he attacks spider-man on the highway wanting his machine back, thinking spider-man has taken it from him. he tries to kill him becuase he constantly is interfering with his plans (and his mind is hostage to the tentacle arms with a singular rage induced purpose).
Oh really? Was he snatched in the middle of a fight with spiderman? I might have missed it or they never explained it in the movie.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Oh really? Was he snatched in the middle of a fight with spiderman? I might have missed it or they never explained it in the movie.
yes he was snatched the moment his peter took off his mask in Spider-man 2.
 
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Omega Riddler

Neo Member
It's funny how with so little screen time the Green Goblin is probably already the best villain the MCU has ever had.
The best part is we get to see how Marvel top Sony. Marvel made all the Sony characters so much better But we've still got Green Goblin, Sandman, Doc Ock, Electro and Lizard to be properly introduced into the MCU. Then we have Shocker, Scorpion, Kraven, two other Mysterios, Kingpin, Rhino, Chameleon and more. And they brought Venom into the MCU. Oscorp might not exist yet but it can still pop up.
 

Atrus

Gold Member
It’s true! All of it!

Just saw the movie this afternoon and I’ll say it’s the best Spider-Man film to date.

It has its issues in that there were many dark scenes, the motivations for villains (Sandman in particular) made no sense and the heroes had plot-induced stupidity to add to the crisis but overall the fact it ties up all of the previous films make it great.
 

AmuroChan

Member
Just came back from the theater. Overall, I really liked the movie. There were certain moments that were really poignant. Garfield's Spidey saving MJ got the biggest emotional response from the audience at my screening. Garfield, in particular put on a great performance IMO. Holland also had to put his dramatic chops to the test and I think he did a good job selling those emotional scenes. The couple of minor complaints I had were that some of the humor didn't land and felt overdone. And also I think the CG was not quite up to par in certain scenes.

Curious to see what Feige has in mind for the next trilogy. No doubt a different version of Venom will be involved, given the post credit scene.
 

YukiOnna

Member
So assuming they keep MJ away from Peter for a bit , do you guys want Gwen or Felicia ?
Gwen, but I'd like them to work on having actual chemistry/relationship building done right because it kind of sucked compared to the last two Spiderman iterations.
 

Flintty

Member
Yes but the Venom 2 credit scene was misleading. It made most people think that it was leading to a Hardy/Holland face-off. Andy Serkis even hinted at that with interviews at the time of Venom 2's release. But this credit scene removes Hardy from the MCU as fast as he arrived.
I dont know if this has been picked up, I haven’t read the full thread. But I’m thinking the symbiote will seek out Brock in main MCU and he can be played by Hardy. It would join him because of the DNA compatibility issues covered in Venom. Hardy can be Brock in both universes, just like Jameson is the same. The universe works in mysterious ways.

I really enjoyed the film. Excellent nostalgia and Disney on point with their meme game.
Im something I’d a scientist myself actually made me laugh out loud.

*insert Spidey pointing meme
 
Just gotta say. This has one of the greatest scenes, for just how awesome it is to see in it. That I think I have ever scene 😎

the jump off the Statue of Liberty and swinging round the pose landing

made the hairs on my arms stand up and just blew my mind 🤯🤩

I think it works as it tells a new story and moves the mcu forward, but respects and enriches the whole Spider-Man big screen legacy
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
So many good scenes but without a doubt my favorite was the hans zimmer electro suite music kicking in for a brief second right when electro launched his attack.

damn I giggled like a kid.
 

YCoCg

Member
Speaking of Electro, did anyone notice the quick subtle hint to his original costume during his arrival at the Statue? The lightning bolts briefly formed a star around his eyes before he landed which was a nice touch.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Speaking of Electro, did anyone notice the quick subtle hint to his original costume during his arrival at the Statue? The lightning bolts briefly formed a star around his eyes before he landed which was a nice touch.

Yep, a good quick homage

 

Azzurri

Member
After seeing the movie last night, I have to say I didn't think I'd like Garfield's Spider-Man the best.

He just stole the whole movie for me.
 

apowhungo

Member
i liked the last two tom holland ones but its been a few days since i saw NWH imax and i cant get it out of my head, it's so fucking good.

garfield and dafoe really did kill it. all three spideys hanging out was amazing. the flipped origin story blew me away. honestly my fav marvel movie ever.
 

Nankatsu

Member
Watched the movie last night.

While I liked it, I kind of was expecting more to be honest. Tom Holland and the gang drag the film for too damn long.

For me this film proves it once again that I'm watching Spider-kid and not Spider-man.

By now I feel either Tom Holland becomes a more matured Peter Parker or we could just use another actor for the role (which won't happen anytime soon because he is the golden boy Spider-man).

It was nice seeing most villains from other dimensions in (Molina and Defoe were god tier), but it kind of felt a bit disjoint?

Both Spider-man's were damn good too, specially Andrew - I felt Tobey was sometimes a bit off.

And Tom Hardy's Venom being left out of the MCU is a fucking kick in the gut. Talk about wasted potential. They teased something that huge at the end of Venom - Let it be Carnage, just to kill right off in the next Spider-man movie.
 
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SafeOrAlone

Member
One meme was enough for me. I’m down for a laugh, but memes are sort of overblown enough as it is these days and at some point it starts chipping away at the story.
 

Susurrus

Member
It was a good movie, but I felt I knew too much going into this movie. I don't look for spoilers, but somehow I had heard that Doc Oc and other villains were back, that Dr Strange is a prominent character and he fights Spiderman at some point, and that the old actors for the Spiderman role were also back into the mix. Without spoilers this would have probably been an excellent experience, but with so much spoiled in advance it was just okay, and a bit too long.

I tried going into it blind, but ya it was everywhere. Even some random article from a site I never see popped up on a random newsfeed on a side that mentioned stuff. Was all over. Would have been so much better for it to all be a surprise.

ummm did you maybe take a bathroom break? they repeated that 2nd meme TWO times in the movie.





they also did this same thing when they were in the school lab
I didn't, but I guess I'm just dense then. But now that you point it out, I suppose they did. My mistake.
 

Star-Lord

Gold Member
Do you think we’ll ever see Madame Web in a Spider-Man film? Kinda seems like the right time now that the multiverse has been ripped open.
 
It was a pretty good movie. The story was kinda stupid but it did tie up all the other spiderman films in a nice way. I knew the other two spiderman will show because of the leak. With the memory wipe and the multiverse, this means Tom Holland might not comeback for future films. And if they bring Garfield back, it won't break MCU canon.

At one point, I thought James Franco might get a cameo to help his dad lol
 

A.Romero

Member
I liked the movie but I felt they dumbed down Holland a lot to make the rest look sharper or more experience.

The other part I didn't like was that I felt Strange's help kind of out of character. When watching the trailers I thought it would be Mephisto making a deal but instead we got actual Stephen Strange risking fucking up the multiverse because Peter's life was fucked. I haven't read a lot of Strange in the comics but the few pages I have made me believe Strange would not fuck around and definitely would not let Peter fuck a spell.

Also Tobey's acting was weird. At first I thought he had civ clothing because he was fat for the suit. Glad I was wrong.

Other than that it was a great movie, very entertaining.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
The other part I didn't like was that I felt Strange's help kind of out of character. When watching the trailers I thought it would be Mephisto making a deal but instead we got actual Stephen Strange risking fucking up the multiverse because Peter's life was fucked. I haven't read a lot of Strange in the comics but the few pages I have made me believe Strange would not fuck around and definitely would not let Peter fuck a spell.
Let's just hope Strange's lapses in judgement don't carry over to his movie coming in 2022. :lollipop_grinning:
 

A.Romero

Member
Let's just hope Strange's lapses in judgement don't carry over to his movie coming in 2022. :lollipop_grinning:

Yeah! I guess for this to work but Peter and Stephen had to act like there wasn't any character growth in their previous movies. Peter seemed to be fighting and behaving like a noob, hard to believe a brilliant kid would make so many bad choices. Stephen ran it like if he was just learning about all the power he has.
 

SafeOrAlone

Member
From the trailer, it looks like the whole movie will be about Strange's lapses in judgement.
Was thinking the same. Marvel probably figures it'll retroactively help us digest the fact that Strange did something so carelessly. And it probably will...a little. Still, one of the rougher aspects of NWH.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
From the trailer, it looks like the whole movie will be about Strange's lapses in judgement.

Nope. Multiverse of Madness is about:
Wanda going full evil thanks to the Darkhold (from WandaVision) and being obsessed with finding her imaginary kids in the Multiverse (see the WandaVision credits scene).She's obsessed with getting to them, but even with he Darkhold she can't travel across universes physically (only via astral projection) but America Chavez can open portals across universes.So Wanda starts sending demons across multiverses to capture her. They destroy America Chavez's universe, and she shows up in the MCU where Strange and Wong have to protect her from Wanda, but then the Multiversal Illuminati gets involved.
 
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