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Spike TV Cancels TNA Impact Wrestling
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BobTheFork
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Dear God, I read two sentences down and I see the Dupps. FFS I still talk about the Dupps whenever wrestling comes up and we talk about horrible gimmicks. Great start.
Empyrean Heaven
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Who here is still capable of making a WWE jump?
Lashley: Was being given the Roman Reigns push before getting injured and quitting over WWE releasing his girlfriend. He seems more interested in MMA but if he wanted to come back to WWE I think the wounds have healed enough between himself and Vince.
The Wolves: Had a tryout match on NXT and apparently hated it, but that could just be because Davey Richards is a scumbag. Would likely return to RoH and the indies.
Austin Aries: I could definitely see it, he worked with WWE before on the 2k video games, and he's good enough on the stick and in the ring to pull it off. Hell, he could probably just spend time in NXT and have ****+ matches with Zayn/Neville/Kidd and I'd be cool with it.
Gail Kim: Probably done with wrestling if TNA closes, her husband is super rich and she could easily transition into modeling.
Team 3D/Angle: Would likely return to WWE, I think the wounds have healed enough so that them coming back for HoF/Legends deals would be appropriate.
MVP: Left on good terms, could easily come back or go back to work in Japan.
A few others maybe didn't leave on the best terms (the Hardys, Anderson/Kennedy), but I think WWE would bring them back since they do pop a crowd.
Yeah, he basically got forced out of TNA a few years ago. He was under contract with them but mostly worked internationally in India, Mexico, a little bit in Japan (one or two shows for Wrestle-1). There's a whole story behind it but I think his relationship with Karen (formerly Kurt Angle's wife) did the damage, not so much with Kurt himself but with Dixie Carter and a few other influential people. Which is a shame because his latter TNA stuff was great. He became an MMA fighter and put children in kneebars, fucking amazing.
Kinda happy about TNA going under, to be honest. I know competition is good but... that wasn't competition. WWE could coast by doing whatever they wanted and TNA would never touch them. Why? Because they've never really come close. WWE never needed to fire a shot because TNA would shoot themselves. I hope several of the wrestlers from TNA go on to WWE and don't have anything held against them, though.
I think EC3 has to go back to WWE. I have no idea what terms he left on but he's proven himself to be one of the best things on their shows. Spud too although I dunno what they'd make of him. A great character though. Bobby Roode's 37 now so that might put them off, he's certainly good enough for WWE. Austin Aries is great but might have some heat from past comments he's made (Tough Enough rejection and that). The rest, who knows. I'd like Jeff Hardy and Bully Ray to rejoin WWE too, guys like James Storm scream Global Force Wrasslin.
bitesnintendog
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I prefer to view him as running the Michael Scott Paper Company of wrestling promotions. He'll just keep opening up a new promotion and has tons of horrible names ready.
In seriousness, while he still has partial ownership of TNA (no one knows how much but less than 50 percent), he was ousted from a power position years ago for starting a relationship with Kurt Angles wife. Later he tried to buy the rest of TNA but the parent company demanded that they Keep Dixie Carter and that lead to his walking away and just making a new federation.
He seems to have serious TV backers this time so there is a hope that this could take off better than TNA. It also sounds like him and his backers are far more interested in making TV products (Wrestling show and reality show) and that he may just license the name and talent to people who want to run live shows. (This was mentioned by one of Jarrett's friends Hermie Sandler who is a race car driver who also promotes independent wrestling shows.)
One of the terms he agreed to when leaving was not to negotiate with Spike while TNA is in negotiations or has a deal in place. Since that relationship is over it's possible Spike may pick up Jarrett's products as wrestling is the highest rated original program they have and does over the cable average.
Wendel Clark
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so russo has effectively ruined WWF, WCW, and now TNA
Last time he tried they didn't think he was good enough (or maybe too good?) for Tough Enough, apparently there is also a thought in WWE that they have too many "small" guys so they won't sign any more.
I could see them giving Jeff Hardy a Brock Lesnar schedule, he has a fanbase that WWE likes to keep happy. Angle might get a legends deal, but Vince is rumored to not want Angle back as he doesn't want an Olympian to die under contract.
Macho Madness
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They kept Vince Russo on the payroll.
Everyone knows about Russo, and everyone knows he is terrible. Yet they kept him around and in power.
This is no surprise. The promotion was terrible. The booking was terrible. The writing was terrible. The gimmick matches used to be terrible, and now are merely awful. I don't know how wrestlers went into work each week knowing they were going on an absolute shit show. There could be no delusions about it. Everyone knew the show was awful.
I hope some of the Knockouts and Kenny King can find their way to the WWE. If nothing else, bring Tessmacher over. I won't miss Tazz or Tenay. They had nothing to work with, but they didn't do much to help either. PEACE.
Everyone knows about Russo, and everyone knows he is terrible. Yet they kept him around and in power.
This is no surprise. The promotion was terrible. The booking was terrible. The writing was terrible. The gimmick matches used to be terrible, and now are merely awful. I don't know how wrestlers went into work each week knowing they were going on an absolute shit show. There could be no delusions about it. Everyone knew the show was awful.
I hope some of the Knockouts and Kenny King can find their way to the WWE. If nothing else, bring Tessmacher over. I won't miss Tazz or Tenay. They had nothing to work with, but they didn't do much to help either. PEACE.
funkystudent
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Aries did try before Triple H was in charge of talent and under H they are a lot more open towards non body builder types.
BUT at this point he is pretty old. Same with guys like Samoa Joe and Chris Daniels.
Once you are past 30 if WWE hasnt signed you its really unlikely. 35+? Unless you are Sting forget about it.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Amazing! lol
Delicious Waffles
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It used to be enjoyable way back when you paid five or ten bucks for the weekly PPV. I still have a bunch of them recorded on VHS.
I could see Hardy doing a Jericho contract. Shows up few months, splits, does a few months, splits.
RPGCrazied
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Can't say I watched much TNA, hell I hardly watch WWE these days, but damn, all those people out of work, don't think WWE will take any, though isn't Sting going to WWE? I saw a picture of him with Hulk Hogan at this years Comic Con.
Shadowlink
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Surprised it took this long. Weren't they having problems paying their talent?
For years. They had no issues pushing out big checks for E-tier celebrities while this was going on, too.
Woooooooooooow!
Stop retreading the past. Before WWE bought ECW, it was easily my favorite wrestling show of all time. Guys like Tajiri, Whipreck, Kid Lash and the FBI kept me engrossed through good ringwork. I would say the booking was good, but I almost feel like the FBI fought Whipreck and Tajiri every week. LOL. They were a bunch of no names with great ring work, great crowds, a great announcing pair in Joey and Joel, and a good manager to keep you compelled each week. Francine is still the best valet ever.
That promotion did it with no names. They didn't use any ex-WWE or WCW guys as their big faces. I think Terry Funk is the only one, and he wasn't wrestling often when I started. Whichever promotion springs up needs to create its own roster of stars by booking good shows and employing good ring workers. If you start with ECW or WCW castoffs to start off, you're doomed to the same fate. PEACE.
BoboBrazil
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Dixie just tweeted
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Not Russo please.
Macho Madness
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Sibersk Esto
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God fucking damn it no. Do the right thing Spike
BoboBrazil
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Some of the best TNA segments
MMA Jarrett http://youtu.be/m6S2ysN5izk
Jay Lethal and Flair Woo Off http://youtu.be/hVU0MW-IGrM
MMA Jarrett http://youtu.be/m6S2ysN5izk
Jay Lethal and Flair Woo Off http://youtu.be/hVU0MW-IGrM
funkystudent
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Think WWE would try get NXT on TNA's TV spot or would there contract with now allow that?
HeisenbergLannister
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HeisenbergLannister
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This is basically what's going on, with Hogan being the stand in for Spike TV at the moment. I can hear Dixie now, "we fired Russo! WE PROMISE! PLEASE DON'T GO!".
funkystudent
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Ok. No joking aside. What is the end game right now for TNA?
Die once they are off the air in the US?
Get another TV deal?
Find a way to live off there strangely large UK fan base?
Dixie sells the company to Spike TV and it continues as a Viocom company.
WWE buys the library, adds it to the network and makes a DVD? TNA invades the NXT arena?
Die once they are off the air in the US?
Get another TV deal?
Find a way to live off there strangely large UK fan base?
Dixie sells the company to Spike TV and it continues as a Viocom company.
WWE buys the library, adds it to the network and makes a DVD? TNA invades the NXT arena?
alfredofroylan
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BoboBrazil
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Depends if Dixie's daddy still wants to support his daughter's pet project. They existed for a time without tv before by putting their show up on their website. They are still going to have to honor talent contracts, so the biggest expense would be production costs, which they could cut. I have to think some network out there would take a chance on them and give them a tv deal for less money.
Shadowlink
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Triple H decides to send his son, Triple H Jr, to finish the TNA buyout negotations, but drama occurs when Junior signs his name in the contract instead.
bitesnintendog
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TNA could probably live on if they entirely change a lot of their ways. No one is going to pay as well as Spike so they would have to scale back again to adjust. This would include cutting out house shows and largely existing as a television product. I'm sure a few stations would be willing to pick it up on the cheap due to consistent ratings.
The only thing WWE hasn't had problems with in the last few years is in ring stuff. They are at the highest baseline they've ever had. The closest WWE has been to being this good in the ring was in 2002-2003 Smackdown only, because Raw was dog shit at the same time.
In regards to the joshi wrestlers in the mid 90s, there wasn't a women's division at the time. There was Alundra Blayze. That's it. And Bull Nakano knocked her dick into the dirt multiple times over the course of 2 years or so. The group of girls was brought in as a special attraction only. There were never plans to have all those joshi girls on Raw out wrestling the white American female wrestlers. It was just a special appearance for a few weeks, much like Great Sasuke in 1997. It was not some racist ploy by the evil Vince McMahon to not push those women because they were Japanese and better than his women. He didn't even have women. It was strictly Alundra Blayze for 2 years and then Bertha Faye was involved, with Bull Nakano floating in and out.
There were no plans for the joshi women to be regulars. It was just for a few weeks. Aja Kong was supposed to face Blayze at the Rumble, but Medusa left before that. So you are wrong about match quality in WWE, and you are wrong about everything that has to do with joshi wrestlers in WWF in 1995.
I'm so glad HHH/Stephanie have 3 daughters and no sons.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
The Silver
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guaranteed HHH is mad as fuck he has no son
sonikokaruto
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so ... now can zack ryder own tna?
it'd be awesoem to watch
zack ryders tna wrestling
and their first ppv event: bury the zack man
it'd be awesoem to watch
zack ryders tna wrestling
and their first ppv event: bury the zack man
Liquidsnake
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What about CMT?
I'm British and I don't understand the success they have over here. Not as big as WWE, obviously, but in proportion it is a lot, lot closer than anyone would believe.
Since some of ya probably won't wander into the Wrasslin thread, I made a very special TNA Clock in light of the recent news.
Enjoy.
As for my thoughts on the whole mess, it'd been coming for a while.
The whole Russo mess supposedly REALLY pissed off Spike from stuff I'd heard some time back.
Sucks for most of the wrestlers involved though.
Enjoy.
As for my thoughts on the whole mess, it'd been coming for a while.
The whole Russo mess supposedly REALLY pissed off Spike from stuff I'd heard some time back.
Sucks for most of the wrestlers involved though.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
This is why TNA failed, for me.
At its best, WCW was a brilliant promotion. At its worst, they had Scott Steiner walk out with a tiger for NO REASON WHATSOEVER. And said tiger tried to bite Rey Mysterio backstage.
TNA never hit that high or that low.
Damn, that seemed dangerous.
TetraxShards
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They are on Freeview, so their potential audience is much bigger than WWE.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Just let it die Dixie. When you bring Ezekiel Jackson in for a swerve, there's no going back from that.
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