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Sports Illustrated Swimsuit 2015 Issue Features Plus-Size Model Ashley Graham

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I'm 5'9, 155 lbs, have more in my ass, less in my thighs and stomach, and have been called ugly fat on the internet a bunch. :/

I'm not even technically overweight. I'd be interested in knowing how much she actually weighs.

Good for her though.
My opinion is that people are saying untrue things about you in order to feel better about themselves. Which is pretty pathetic, even for the internet.

Ashley Graham isn't remarkably large by any means, by Western standards. But the camera is unforgiving. Especially if the lighting isn't great. Every wrinkle and fold is laid bare under stark relief. Apparently plus sized models are also airbrushed to the point where they look doll-like.

Also, the thread title is misleading. She isn't featured in Sports Illustrated. She's in an ad that happens to be in the magazine. SI is selling slender, youthful perfection and swimsuitsforall is selling swim suits for plus sized women. Two very different agendas there.
 
I never really thought about it but you're right. I don't recall ever actually seeing a professional plus sized male model in my entire life.

Edit - Though I'm sure they exist I just have never seen one in any magazine or anything

You've never opened a Sears catalog ever? They're labeled "husky" or "big & tall.” You've never noticed 'cause men don't notice this shit, by and large.
 
Preferred plus-sizes:

Laura Wells.

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Hoochie mama. Now she's stunning. She's also 5'9'' and 190. It think it's totally plausible for Ashely to be pushing 210+.

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Hoochie mama. Now she's stunning. She's also 5'9'' and 190. It think it's totally plausible for Ashely to be pushing 210+.

She probably is over 200 lbs, but again, BMI is borderline useless for anyone who works out. Ashley Graham has her own workout video series and stresses the importance of exercising and eating right.

And Laura Wells is stunning.
 
She probably is over 200 lbs, but again, BMI is borderline useless for anyone who works out. Ashley Graham has her own workout video series and stresses the importance of exercising and eating right.

And Laura Wells is stunning.
I work out regularly, and my body fat percentage says I'm obese.

Calling it useless for anyone who works out is laughable.
 
Ashley Graham has her own workout video series

I'll admit, all I've seen of her workout videos is this, which is kind of the very bare minimum of "working out". She even stresses that this is a regimen meant to "keep your curves", i.e. not losing weight.

A lot of bigger girls claim that it's just their body type, but I guarantee you if Ashley busted her ass on some crossfit or HIIT, she'd lose some weight. Seems more like a conscious decision to keep her shape to me, which is cool.
 
Wrong. That's shopped. Let's look at some unshopped pics of her.

Don't understand the appeal.

i find it funny how all these plus-size models trying to represent fat people have all their fats in the right places.

seriously.

it's like, "yeah we're big but we don't have an obese amount of belly fat nor do we have double chins and oh look how well-endowed our breasts and hips are but everywhere else aren't about to explode."

Noticed the same thing.
 
I work out regularly, and my body fat percentage says I'm obese.

Calling it useless for anyone who works out is laughable.

Again, what about this do you disagree with? BMI does not take into account actual muscle mass and actual bodyfat percentage. That's...a fact. It is inherently flawed. Of course there will be an overlap for some people where BMI is an accurate reflection of their body composition, but the reliance on only TWO metrics (height and weight) is a remarkably cursory way of judging health and body composition.
 
Anton, I agree with what you're getting at; obviously muscle is heavier than fat, so BMI is a terrible indicator of general health for stacked people.

In Ashley's case, however, I'm not seeing a preponderance of muscle, so saying her BMI is grossly skewed I think is a little wrong.
 
Again, what about this do you disagree with? BMI does not take into account actual muscle mass and actual bodyfat percentage. That's...a fact. It is inherently flawed. Of course there will be an overlap for some people where BMI is an accurate reflection of their body composition, but the reliance on only TWO metrics (height and weight) is a remarkably cursory way of judging health and body composition.
That the bar for BMI to not be useful is much higher than you're suggesting. I see nothing about her to suggest she's some outlier.
 
Anton, I agree with what you're getting at; obviously muscle is heavier than fat, so BMI is a terrible indicator of general health for stacked people.

In Ashley's case, however, I'm not seeing a preponderance of muscle, so saying her BMI is grossly skewed I think is a little wrong.

I don't think it's "grossly" skewed but the fact that it could be skewed, at all, means BMI should be taken with a grain of salt. Since BMI is what we used to define underweight, average, overweight, and obese, I have a problem with it.

The problem with BMI is the same problem with using bodyweight, in general, to determine progress. It's why women start working out and see the scale go UP, and they get discouraged.

Go get a thorough checkup with a physician, get bloodwork done, etc., to determine if you're healthy, not a chart with "weight" and "height" axes.
 
Oh my God, I thank GOD for this thread, I'm in love with all the models from this thread.

If it weren't for this thread I would have never gaze upon this goddess:

Jada Sezer
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Thank You Based GAF!!!!
 
not sure why this is baby steps?

Isn't the whole point of the issue for men to check out half naked women that those men find attractive?

or is it to make other women and the far left feel better?
 
Ashley Graham is fucking hot !! (I love bbw's)

Photoshopped or not, i still think she looks amazing and i'm white, then again i was born in Africa so i guess there's some African blood going through my vains lol.
 
I'm 5'9, 155 lbs, have more in my ass, less in my thighs and stomach, and have been called ugly fat on the internet a bunch. :/

I'm not even technically overweight. I'd be interested in knowing how much she actually weighs.

Good for her though.

To be fair though, you've had three kids. That weight is actually really good, especially where you've concentrated it.
 
There is a difference between super skinny runway model, athletic build females, normal body type with a bit of curve, above average and curvy and "plus size". I'd say she is on the high end of Plus Size, she has a beautiful face but realistically she would be considered obese by most standards. I'm not saying she isn't attractive to a group of people but for me she has a bit too much to love to find her attractive, that plus the whole pancake butt thing. Good for her for becoming a plus size model though, we need some balance to this whole "Model" ideal in media.
 
The chick in the op and most of the curvier ones posted in this thread are waaaay hotter than the one they have on the cover.

I like women with meat on dem bones.
 
I like the idea of taking away unrealistic expectations

That really isn't what is happening here.

Fat, not thin, is today's norm. But studies show that we don't notice because it has happened gradually and we have got used to seeing people who are overweight. Kids in pictures taken on the beach in the 1950s, with ribs showing, look famished to modern eyes. They are of normal weight.
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Source.

And I know GAF has seen this one before:

researchers from the Rush University Medical Center in Chicago asked African American women volunteers to look at a "body image scale" made up of drawings of women of different sizes and identify which women on the scale were overweight, obese and "too fat". They were also asked which picture featured a woman of approximately the same size as themselves.
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the researchers found that the only sizes they thought were "too fat" were the last two drawings - numbers 8 and 9.. ..when it came to identifying their own body weight from the drawings, many of them got it wrong. 56% of overweight women (BMI 25 or greater) and 40% of obese women (BMI 30 or greater) did not classify their body size as either overweight, obese, or too fat. From the perspective of these women, overweight began at a BMI of around 35 - not 25

Source.
Solution:
Numbers 2, 3 and 4 are normal weight. Number 1 has a BMI of 16 and is therefore under-weight. The scale then rises in roughly 3 BMI points for each drawing, so 6 and 7 are obese and 8 and 9 are severely obese.
The woman in the OP looks like a 5/6.

60 years ago we lived in a society where almost everyone was a healthy weight, today we live in a society where being overweight is common and normalised but that doesn't stop being a healthy weight being an entirely realistic expectation.
 
That really isn't what is happening here.



Source.

And I know GAF has seen this one before:



Source.
Solution:
Numbers 2, 3 and 4 are normal weight. Number 1 has a BMI of 16 and is therefore under-weight. The scale then rises in roughly 3 BMI points for each drawing, so 6 and 7 are obese and 8 and 9 are severely obese.
The woman in the OP looks like a 5/6.

60 years ago we lived in a society where almost everyone was a healthy weight, today we live in a society where being overweight is common and normalised but that doesn't stop being a healthy weight being an entirely realistic expectation.

Isn't it pretty normal, when presented with a number of options along a single scale, for people to see the middle of the scale as normal? That study with the drawing of women has more overweight women than underweight, so the natural tendency to pick something in the middle is going to skew the results.

Edit: Of course, the range of pictures depicted could reflect the range of body types actually seen out in the world, and thus would also explain the general perceptions people have.
 
She's in those underwear ads in Canada. Coming out of the limo with lingerie on man tending to her. Whoah, girl is gorgeous. Amazing, she's got all the right amount of flesh.
 
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