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Wow this has an 89% on rotten tomatoes... Did not expect this with the Fast and Furious guy taking over the reigns..
 
Just got back. It was a good film, but the praise is kinda overrated imo.
It definitely felt like a TV-episode, which is fine per say. But for me - for a cinematic Star Trek story - I wanted something more... something grandier.

I did not care
about Yorktown, because we only spent like five minutes there in the start, so I have no relation to the station. Kralls vengeance seemed a bit empty as well. Sure he exposed his intentions, but I wished the reasoning were a bit more fleshed out.

A strong 7 out of 10.


EDIT: good things: Jay... whatsherface. The white faced chick. She was awesome. And also the design of Yorktown. And the
1701-A
looked badass
 
Kickz said:
Wow this has an 89% on rotten tomatoes... Did not expect this with the Fast and Furious guy taking over the reigns..
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He's a good director. He turned the FF movies from car porn BS into a mega franchise, and they're still fun and solid films.
 
Don't know if this is the same typo that someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, but...

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lol.

Seeing this in approximately 6.5 hours. Soooo hyped. I absolutely love both of the new Star Trek movies. Couldn't care less if they "feel" like the original series, because the characters/cast are great, the music is unreal, the visuals are beautiful, and the stories are totally fine. I don't need super intricate plots - just stories with a consistent theme and satisfying conclusion.
 
I'm really torn on whether to go see this tonight already or re-watch the first two films as I have not seen either of them in a very long time.
 
MMarston said:
I'm really torn on whether to go see this tonight already or re-watch the first two films as I have not seen either of them in a very long time.
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ignore into darkness, only watch st2009.
but if you know how this new timeline came to be, there is not much else you need to know.
 
S1kkZ said:
ignore into darkness, only watch st2009.
but if you know how this new timeline came to be, there is not much else you need to know.
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Emphasis on the word re-watch

I've already seen each about 3 times lol.
 
In the theater, getting ready to watch. Haven't seen reviews and bailed on the production thread once spoilers started leaking.


Hope it doesn't suck.
 
This movie makes no god damn sense,,,,

So a stranded starfleet crew, that has been whittled down to 3 surviving crew members (as of the last captains log), find ancient drone technology which seemingly gives them the millions of drone ships...yet whenever the starfleet crew board a drone its manned by someone....wtf did i miss?


Are the audience meant to assume that all the stranded aliens get transformed into krall- like aliens? and that they willingly accept him as a leader... AND mcCoy & spock were lucky to pick the right ship?
 
I actually thought it was pretty okay. No worse than '09 and magnitudes better than the abomination that is STID.


Still not great Trek or particularly good Trek, but okay Trek.
 
StrongArmSteady said:
This movie makes no god damn sense,,,,

So a stranded starfleet crew, that has been whittled down to 3 surviving crew members (as of the last captains log), find ancient drone technology which seemingly gives them the millions of drone ships...yet whenever the starfleet crew board a drone its manned by someone....wtf did i miss?


Are the audience meant to assume that all the stranded aliens get transformed into krall- like aliens? and that they willingly accept him as a leader... AND mcCoy & spock were lucky to pick the right ship?
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The drones are the soldiers piloting the ships. Not the ships.

The stranded people he was using to prolong his life. Sucking out their energy like he did in front of Uhura to the prisoners hanging upside down.

Just got back from the theatre. Awesome movie.

Minor, vague spoiler:

The Sabotage scene was soooooo satisfying. Was giggling because I couldn't control myself.
 
Jellycrackers said:
The drones are the soldiers piloting the ships. Not the ships.

The stranded people he was using to prolong his life. Sucking out their energy like he did in front of Uhura to the prisoners hanging upside down.

Just got back from the theatre. Awesome movie.

Minor, vague spoiler:

The Sabotage scene was soooooo satisfying. Was giggling because I couldn't control myself.
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ok that makes way more sense...yh i knew about the
life sucking
.. i just couldnt understand
where all the "aliens" came from
 
I dug it. The last 20 mins are meh but rest is good.

It maybe has the most so corny its cool scene ever put on film.
 
Just got out.

I really rather liked it. Might be my favorite of the three.

I'll post more when I get home.
Strax said:
I dug it. The last 20 mins are meh but rest is good.

It maybe has the most so corny its cool scene ever put on film.
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The
music scene at Yorktown?
 
killertofu said:
This was the stupidest thing I've ever fucking seen.

The movie was ok. I'm a big fan of Trek but the plot just seemed so basic.
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I didn't find anything wrong with it. The idea of disrupting a drone communication network to make them crash is cool. Doing it with Beastie Boys is just icing on the cake, especially since that song is so closely associated with these movies.

To each his own :) I couldn't contain my joy at that scene.
 
Jellycrackers said:
I didn't find anything wrong with it. The idea of disrupting a drone communication network to make them crash is cool. Doing it with Beastie Boys is just icing on the cake, especially since that song is so closely associated with these movies.

To each his own :) I couldn't contain my joy at that scene.
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Idk, maybe I'm getting old. I loved the use in 09 but this just seeemed too out there lol
 
Strax said:
I dug it. The last 20 mins are meh but rest is good.

It maybe has the most so corny its cool scene ever put on film.
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I forgot

My theater had less then 30 people (out of 300+ seats) in it, on opening day. Of course I don't live in the US but I felt that was really shocking.

orthodoxy1095 said:
The
music scene at Yorktown?
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Yeah, when the setup was happening I literally said out loud Noooo, they're not gonna...
 
The 50th anniversary celebration film, Star Trek Beyond takes a more subtle approach of honoring Star Trek's illustrious past. Namely, it avoids the traps of its predecessor and gives something new. New aliens, a new villain, and even a completely original heroic character in Sofia Boutella's Jayla. It also returns to the old style in ways the reboot universe never had before. Finally, Karl Urban's Bones is one of the main three characters, and it is absolutely delightful. He steals the movie from the rest of the cast.

Lin brings his ensemble-juggling skills from the Fast and Furious franchise and gives everyone a chance to shine. It's just slightly disappointing that a large chunk of the movie has the crew split up, and even though everyone has a good amount of screentime, the dynamics are obviously missing. Idris Elba is criminally wasted in his role of Krall, and the film often moves too fast to keep with the technobabble Scotty and Chekov throw at us. Lin also abandons a lot of the visual identity Abrams gave this reboot series and the film suffers from a bland look. It's at its best when it slows down and just allows us to partake in conversations between the iconic characters.

The film might start slow, but its bombastic finale is probably the best of this trilogy. Star Trek Beyond celebrates the franchise with something new and enthralling, while also not forgetting why Star Trek is so popular in the first place. Bring on Star Trek 4.

On a side note, Anton Yelchin's Chekov has always been a truly wonderful part of this series. He has imparted emotion and childlike emotion in subtle expressions, and the accent he took on has always got me to smile. Lin and Pegg, with their more team-focused approach, gave Chekov a much bigger role this go-around, allowing him to partake in an action scene and other big roles. The final scene of the movie works as a subtle good-bye to his portrayal that got this viewer a bit misty-eyed. Yelchin will be missed, not only in Star Trek, but in all of cinema. What a talent.
 
Jellycrackers said:
I didn't find anything wrong with it. The idea of disrupting a drone communication network to make them crash is cool. Doing it with Beastie Boys is just icing on the cake, especially since that song is so closely associated with these movies.

To each his own :) I couldn't contain my joy at that scene.
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I liked those scenes but I didn't really get why
all the ships seemed to just explode and not crash/lose control when "hit" by the music.
But whatever.

One thing though that maybe someone who has seen the movie can answer for me is
was there a reason given to why they couldn't use transporters at the very end to deal with anything in the final showdown? From teleporting Krall away to even getting Kirk so he wouldn't get sucked away. Seems like there could have been a one line thing put in there to explain why they couldn't use them but I don't remember it.
 
Strax said:
I forgot

My theater had less then 30 people (out of 300+ seats) in it, on opening day. Of course I don't live in the US but I felt that was really shocking.
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Historically, the movies tend to not really get much outside NA.
 
The movie was so amazing. This definitely deserves a rewatch or three :D

I'd put it on the same level of enjoyment as the first Avengers movie. Probably one of the more enjoyable movies I've seen in the past couple of years.
 
Some thoughts, for whatever the hell they might be worth. A few spoilers in here, duly marked where they are.


  • Jaylah is a great addition to the cast. I was worried that they'd spend too much time integrating her in and such, but actually in the end, I was left wanting to see more of her.
  • Quinto, Yelchin and Urban are standouts. Pine is good, but I honestly found Pegg to be a bit meh.
  • On the topic of cast, Justin Lin obviously is trying to make use of his experience juggling an ensemble cast. But I'm not sure that it worked. Too much time with the cast split up and a bit too much focus on characters I didn't really feel invested in. It's ironic that the film has Kirk make a captain’s log entry where he says that
    “things feel episodic,”
    because the film itself feels that way, and it made me realize just how much I pine for the episodic format.
  • I remember thinking that the motorcycle scene looked idiotic in the trailer (and it did), but in the movie, it worked excellently.
  • I found the original soundtrack to be fairly pedestrian throughout the film and I can't really think of anything that left an impact on me.
  • That said, there is one use of music within the film that was just so ludicrous that I couldn't help but grin. It was like going back to Stark Trek Cornball™, and I loved it.
  • The action seems well paced actually right until the aforementioned use of music. After that, the conclusion of the movie seems a bit overwrought and tedious. I realized that we had reached the finale of the movie, and my thought at that moment was "Wow, I can't believe this movie blew by so fast!" And then, 20 minutes later I was thinking "Wow, I can't believe this isn't frigging over yet!"
  • Maybe I missed something or am being pedantic, but I really don't understand what was going on with all of Krall's
    visual changes. First he was just Elba. Then of course we mostly see him as some alien looking creature. Then in the final action sequence, he's some mutilated looking version of Elba. Why?
  • Also in line with the pedantic nitpicking, I have to echo theSlacker's question.
    Why no beaming in that scene? Movie logic for the sake of tension? Or were there actual reasons?
  • Please stop
    destroying the damn Enterprise. This is getting ridiculous.

All in all, a good summer flick. Possibly my favorite of the three. FWIW, I commented before the movie started that there were only a handful of people in the theater. By the time the show started up, the theater only was half-full. I'm not sure why that is, but I was pretty shocked by that. I didn't necessarily expect a sell-out, but I expected far more people than I saw.
 
Definitely the best out of the 3 Nu-Trek movies for me. Not a huge fan of the Nu-Trek, but a HUGE fan of TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT (sorry TOS), but this was acceptable to me - a solid 8/10

Guessing the reason they couldn't use transporters at the end was due to battle damage? Don't recall any dialogue supporting that, but it's the only thing I can come up with.

I do wish they had gone into Krall's backstory and motivations earlier in the movie because most of the time you're wondering why he's got such a hate-on for the Feds. I do like the tie-ins to Enterprise though, especially that he was formerly a MACO. His whole plan was kinda "meh" though... I mean, in his logs he goes on about how the Feds left them there and no one was coming to help... but he has the bigass swarm that could effortlessly leave the planet and the nebula... so, why didn't he just leave and pick up his life again???
 
Jellycrackers said:
Minor, vague spoiler:

The Sabotage scene was soooooo satisfying. Was giggling because I couldn't control myself.
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I had the opposite reaction. A little more like this:

killertofu said:
This was the stupidest thing I've ever fucking seen.

The movie was ok. I'm a big fan of Trek but the plot just seemed so basic.
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I seriously felt embarrassed for the movie. Like, I had a weird sense of pity like I had just watched a child trip over his own shoelaces and smack his face on the pavement. Oh, you poor thing...what's happened to you?

When people bitched about 2009 not being Star Trek anymore, I thought "Sure it's a little more shallow now, sort of a different genre than before, but it's still a really good movie that at least does justice to the core of the characters." But I just cannot defend Spock's Music Video. Everyone is too far gone. The characters arent even in-character anymore.

I may elaborate more in depth later but my girlfriend put it succinctly enough after we left. "Everyone in that movie felt more Hollywood than ever before." And we saw the trilogy marathon, so we could compare directly.

Nudull said:
So, I should expect some very dumb, very cheesy fun here and there? I did enjoy how fun 2009 was.
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The new one is fun but in a more cheesy hollywood way than 09 was. Another succinct statement my girlfriend made after we saw the marathon trilogy (summarizing):

"First one was a little junkie but still a meal. Third one was too much candy and now I'm sick."

And no one is going to remember this villain fondly. He's never going to be more than, "That guy from Beyond, you know....the one with the ____." Really forgettable.
 
While not depicted will, the coordination of the swarm was immensely complex, weaving bobbing etc extremely fast...now take AWAY the coordination via the jamming , and you would have hundreds of those drone ships...colliding. it was just depicted badly---

saw the movie last night- at a showing that was NOT listed at the movie theatre (showcase cinema superlux in chestnut hill) the official movie times on the website were 7:30 and 10pm...and this one was at 8- had 10 people in it while the 7:30 show was sold out- had a couple of drinks and a steak dinner while watching with my wife. we loved it.
 
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