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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Official Teaser

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Has anyone noticed the resemblance with TFA teaser?

the first shot of TFA teaser with Finn getting up
the first shot of TLJ teaser with Rey falling
both jumping on screen all of the sudden
 
Looks like Star Wars, wich is what I'm searching for. I love TFA, so I have a lot of faith in this.
It going to be fun when people will start to search for every detail and say "lool this is just a remake of episode whatever! I'm such a movie critic you know!"
 
If y'all needed physical evidence that Finn isn't in a coma for the whole film
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So, all the talk about Luke/Rey becoming the grey Jedi leaving some of the traditional Jedi beliefs behind basically makes me think: they will tell the story of Protestant Reformation from a Star Wars perspective? Count me in! :D
 
Went to go check the Reddit thread on this to see if they had any interesting thoughts on it and let me just say:

The prequel memes shit is one of the most unfunny things that website has ever taken upon itself to parrot in literally every thread. Reddit is the goddamn worst.
 
For a new arbitrary binary that will be no different in practice.

We have no evidence of that, though. Rey can just be Rey. Kylo Ren can just be Kylo Ren. It doesn't really follow that after all Luke's been through that he'd be like, "The Jedi must end. And become the..."

Rey's gonna do her own thing, unless the setup in TFA and this trailer are some giant ruse for a new coat of Jedi/Sith paint. But I don't think that's where they are going.
 
On the flip side, its something that all living creatures(in the Star Wars universe) have. So its just as selfish for Jedi to take children and train them to be emotionless soldiers in order for what they saw as the proper way to use the force.

So whilst you can argue there is selfishness in wielding the force under an emotional state, the jedi were just as selfish to neuter a persons emotional state in the process of making them a warrior of the force.

In essence both sides.

I agree, but I don't think the "correct answer" would be a combination of both sides. It would be the grasping of something both sides are lacking: real harmony with the Force.

The Jedi reject emotions, so how can they let their emotions flow from the Force?

The Sith wield emotion as a weapon, but those emotions seem to flow from their id, not from the Force.

Neither is truly in harmony with the Force, because neither is truly letting the Force guide them.

All this to say that I hope the answer Star Wars gives us isn't "use both sides in equal measure."
 
Honestly I'm not really happy with the idea that Luke would want to end the Jedi, because the whole point of RotJ was that he already overcame the rules of the old Jedi Order. If he backslid and failed because he tried to restructure the new order in the same way as the old one, then they missed the point of RotJ, where he put aside dogmatic non-attachment to save his father.

He already defeated dualism, but nothing so far has indicated that he tried to integrate that into the new Jedi.
 
Another thing to consider when trying to draw direct parallels to the effectiveness of TFA's first commercial to TLJ's first commercial:

All TFA had to clearly communicate was a single idea. The first two teasers (even the one at Celebration) were built to send this message, and this message alone:

Star Wars is Back

That's it. That's all they had to ultimately do. It's a very easy idea, and they had a lot of footage that makes communicating that idea very easy. Neither of those two ad spots was at all concerned with telling you a story, hinting at it, nothing. Just screaming "STAR WARS IS BACK" with all the imagery and music.

The Last Jedi's teaser ad isn't lucky enough to have an idea that clear to communicate. It's one big idea is "The Jedi Must End." That's a pretty rich, interesting idea to explore, but you can't really cut a straightforward, rousing commercial for that. It's hard to take that one idea and make it seem super-exciting and immediate. That's an idea that needs context.
 
I mean, it's a teaser. It's not really supposed to show anything besides "hey here's a few seconds from this movie you're all gonna see anyway"
I know what a teaser is. I thought we were discussing our thoughts on it, or is it only allowed if it's positive impressions? The OG teaser 2 years back got me a lot more hyped up.
 
My tense is off but I'm saying that Kylo Ren is what I imagined Anakin should have been in RotS. Struggling with rage, inadequacy, and conflicted about the dark and light. Instead we basically got an binary save the galaxy hero to child murderer on/off switch in about five minutes. Mostly as the result of the constricted timeline because anakin started the story as a boy instead of as a jedi apprentice or whatever.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
 
I mean, it's most likely everyone's just going to be "force-users" of the good or bad variety.

I suppose they're going to deal with the Sith/Jedi ideologies and do away with them to bring in a new era of force politics. I think it's inevitable some new name/order/ideal of the force will be plastered in their place espousing very similar-but-not-quite-the-same ideas and dogma.
 
That was one beautiful trailer and poster. Still hoping we get at least one Luke/Leia reunion scene. It looks like it's going to be dark. Like Revenge of the Sith dark.
 
I hope that no one actually believes this. It would have been way simpler to have him just go off on his own happy journey at the end of TFA then, or make him a sidekick for Poe. They didn't set up having him get struck down by Kylo and fall into this coma for it not to be a salient plot point later in the trilogy.

We can only hope that's the case but for some reason, it just seems really easy to believe that Finn won't get any sort of rematch with Kylo

I'd love if it happened, but it's hard to see Finn getting wrapped up in the force plot, which is the most important stuff in Star Wars.
 
I think the most exciting thing about The Last Jedi, and I posted something similar in the celebration thread, is the tease towards what I'll call "balanced force-users".

Jedi and Sith are neither healthy lifestyles. Maybe in isolation a Jedi can be a healthy individual, but as a collective, the Jedi Order was deeply flawed.

With Bendu being introduced in Rebels, and the continuation of Ahsoka's story, I think they're clearly setting the foundation for a move away from black and white, characters who embodied polar opposites etc. Luke is a far more complex character, emotionally, and the end of RotJ is so symbolic in how he flirts with the dark side, but ultmately ends the film as a good person, irrespective of the temptation. Drawing from hate in his duel with Vader didn't spell the end for him. Hell, nothing is more on the nose as during Vader's funeral, with Luke dressed in black, with the white of the inside of his tunic (?) showing.

If Luke went on from RotJ, trying to replicate what Yoda and Obi-Wan preached 1:1, then it's no wonder that with the fall of his academy and that of his nephew, he'd go and explore the meaning of the Force and that of the Jedi.

He says so in the trailer, when Rey is see the light and the darkness, that there's more to it than that. My bet, his isolation and journey to the first Jedi temple will highlight how the Order got lost along the way.

Ultimately, I think Luke and Rey will be balanced individuals opposed by the unbalanced (and unhinged) Kylo and Snoke.
 
I can't believe so many people still think Finn is a chump. The dude was brave enough to run from the First Order and take on stormtroopers and Kylo Ren directly despite being way out of his depth. He's a damn hero.
 
IIRC, it was said Luke sought out the origins of the Jedi Order in the time between eps 6 and 7, and that symbol is the symbol of the jedi order. In the old EU, the beginning of the jedi was on the planet Tython, but in this new canon it's probably the planet luke and Rey were on at the end of ep 7 (the name escapes me). Given Luke's words at the end of the trailer, I surmise that book is some long lost piece of Jedi lore, possibly even from its founding, but Luke has found either some terrible secret or some fundamental flaw that he thinks cannot be fixed without eliminating Jedi, dark or light, entirely. An interesting sort of true neutral take on the universe's karmic reality if so.

Seems similar to what Kiera was trying to do.
 
That poster actually makes me think they want to portray both Luke and Kylo as being a broken part of the same side, you know, their goal is the same just not the means. Kylo said he will finish what Anakin started, his purpose was to bring balance to the force, so..
 
My tense is off but I'm saying that Kylo Ren is what I imagined Anakin should have been in RotS. Struggling with rage, inadequacy, and conflicted about the dark and light. Instead we basically got an binary save the galaxy hero to child murderer on/off switch in about five minutes. Mostly as the result of the constricted timeline because anakin started the story as a boy instead of as a jedi apprentice or whatever.

I actually think showing Anakin as a boy was super important to the overall story, because it showed us that he already had a preconceived notion of the Jedi as "the magic people who will come and save me and my mom and my friends from slavery."

He never really lets go of this idea, and that's what ultimately leads to him losing faith in the Jedi (because obviously this wasn't how they operated) and turning to the Dark Side (for promising to be for him what the Jedi weren't).
 
So you just wanted to look at the lights and don't care about the stunning revelation that the Jedi might be thrown away completely. Alright

I don't get hyped over vague hints that only lead to hardcore fan speculation, fuck me right? I understand why fans are going bananas over hints like that because I know I would too if I was more invested in SW.

I guess as not as invested person I'm not allowed to say that trailer left me somewhat cold as it was collection of CGI action shots and some vague lore hints?
 
Just totally heard the line that Rey says "The balance" and Luke says "It's so much bigger"

Yeah, they are going to totally re-write everything about the mythos in this movie.



Can't wait for the arguements after the movie comes out.
 
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