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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Official Teaser

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Rey is the ONE.

She's part of the Matrix. Soon she'll be able to stop blasters.

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Why? The "Jedi" were already gone. Luke claiming to be a "Jedi" doesn't mean he was one. Just that it was a catch all for "I have learned the ways of the force." Considering he learned it from former Jedi (people who were in the Jedi organization).

Jedi were a peace keeping organization long since gone by the timeframe of A New Hope (and have been such in every era, KOTOR, etc). Luke tried to bring it back with his own temple and organization and he fucked it up. The idea of "The Jedi" ended a long time ago. Luke just never was very bright and he is probably just very pissy. Luke was NEVER a Jedi.

Star Wars mythos has always had force users who long were a part of "The Jedi" and left. Luke has probably finally realized you could do this. Considering that he was never exposed to any.

Or that line is a red herring and doesn't matter in the film itself.

"Then I am a Jedi"

"Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be. And confront him, you will."
 
That planet is called Crait.

“It’s way out there. It’s uncharted,” says Johnson. “It’s a mineral planet and so there are mines on it.” The director (previously best known for Brick and Looper) noted how there are some “beautiful design elements” present on Crait some of which are seen in the trailer. “I hope some really unique ones that we’re able to bring into it,” he adds.

According to Johnson, Crait is the site of an “an old rebel base there that’s now abandoned” and the planet was one of the first things he had in mind when planning The Last Jedi.

“It ends up playing a key role in the movie,” he says, adding that the Resistance fighters — flying in the skimmers seen in the trailer — “show up where they have to deal with a very pressing and immediate.”
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Don't understand those speeders touching the ground like that. Cool effect but I dunno. Maybe they aren't specifically military vehicles.
 
Rey: "Light...darkness...the balance-"
Luke: "...is so much bigger"

Kylo: "I only know one truth..."
Luke: "...it's time for the Jedi to end"

Do I have this right? I'm about 70% sure it was Rey who said "balance," but can't really tell if the "one truth" bit came from Kylo or Luke.

I like the idea that it came from Kylo, because it sets up the idea that he and Rey are sort of heading down a similar path. At least to the extent that Luke is finishing both their sentences.
 
Fuck lightsabers, Luke probably goes ham with force lightning now. Dude doesn't care that it's a "sith power".
 
The gif where you see the space battle has a greenish planet behind it. Could this be the planet with the base on it where Poe saw Finn again? Seems worth defending I guess.
 
Are we already crapping on RO? After some reflection I don't like it as much as VII but that last act is one of the best things I've ever seen in a film.

The script was is in dire need of a rewrite. It's a punchy last act, sure, but it's hard to create the gravitas it was striving for when 75% of the cast is nigh unapproachable. They added edge but took out just about all of the fun, and the characters all suffered for it. It's not a terrible movie by any means, but it could have been a lot better.
 
Fuck lightsabers, Luke probably goes ham with force lightning now. Dude doesn't care that it's a "sith power".

Maybe that's what he means. Balance is becoming a "grey" force user instead of going one way or another.
 
Don't get the TFA first teaser comparisons. Of course it won't be the same, TFA had all of the "Star Wars is coming back!" hype going for it, you can't beat that.
 
"Then I am a Jedi"

"Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be. And confront him, you will."
winner.

also, people seem to be taking away that Luke WANTS the Jedi to end rather than him just accepting that the Jedi will end (because he sees the balance shifting or whatever)
 
Don't understand those speeders touching the ground like that. Cool effect but I dunno. Maybe they aren't specifically military vehicles.

Me either. But maybe they are churning up dust to hide/shield their miltary forces coming in behind them? On the horizon in that shot is a line of walkers. So it looks to be pre-battle.
 
Finn is not waking up this movie. He's going to maybe open his eyes in Episode 9 and be like, "Hey, what did I miss? When did you get a robot arm, Rey? Chewie got a medal?! Where's Leia?" (Ow. That last line hurt to write.)

It's kind of funny some people seem to believe this.
 
Wondering if there's a chance that the Jedi ending is somehow a red herring. The only reason why I'm wondering this is because it seems like they'd have to contradict a lot of the narrative established in TFA.

Yeah I think it's a red herring, as you say.
Mark said during the panel that he recorded the voice over of the trailer, which implied to me that those lines were made specific for the trailer and may not even be in the film.
 
He absolutely was a Jedi. When he saves Anakin, he becomes a Jedi - that was his trial and he overcame it. "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

It's the point of the movie!

That was then. This is now. We have a lot of official canon that "The Jedi" is simply the peace keeping organization of Space Monks. His only official training came from old Jedi. He was also a simple boy. So he was "A JEDI!"

This doesn't mean that his journey in the OT was wrong or anything. Just that with age, comes wisdom and he discovers that perhaps the old, dogmatic ways and views of "The Jedi" were not the only way. The force users in Star Wars Rebels aren't Jedi either.

"Then I am a Jedi"

"Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be. And confront him, you will."

Nice quotes. Means nothing after what they kept in canon. Remember, Yoda was an old man who was too caught up in his own shit to see what was in front of his own face and lead the Jedi Order to ruin. =P
 
The script was is in dire need of a rewrite. It's a punchy last act, sure, but it's hard to create the gravitas it was striving for when 75% of the cast is nigh unapproachable. They added edge but took out just about all of the fun, and the characters all suffered for it. It's not a terrible movie by any means, but it could have been a lot better.

I thought that the movie underwent heavy rewrites late in the production because it was too gritty for Disney? I think rewrites is what got that movie into trouble in the first place.

Although all together, I think Rouge One was pretty good with some great action. Its not a masterpiece but its entertaining enough. Its one of those movies where the bad stuff kinda stands out in retrospect but while watching it last week I had a really good time.
 
winner.

also, people seem to be taking away that Luke WANTS the Jedi to end rather than him just accepting that the Jedi will end (because he sees the balance shifting or whatever)

It could be that he sees it as an inevitability and what the force must want - why else would it screw over the Order twice so severely? So he's just resigned himself to it, and thus 'The Jedi must come to an end'.

Again, there's no larger context for the line yet.
 
That shot of Rey standing in front of the sea makes me think she's going to try and pull some Moses style shit with the force. Sort of as a call-back to Luke struggling to raise the X-Wing on Dagobah.
 
I agree, but I don't think the "correct answer" would be a combination of both sides. It would be the grasping of something both sides are lacking: real harmony with the Force.

The Jedi reject emotions, so how can they let their emotions flow from the Force?

The Sith wield emotion as a weapon, but those emotions seem to flow from their id, not from the Force.

Neither is truly in harmony with the Force, because neither is truly letting the Force guide them.

All this to say that I hope the answer Star Wars gives us isn't "use both sides in equal measure."

Indeed, good post.
 
just search "2017 teaser" on youtube
i genuinely can't think of a single teaser i've seen recently that spoils the entire movie. unless people are getting teasers mixed up with full trailers? and the only thing i can think of that has kinda done that was the recent spider-man trailer, but that wasn't a teaser.
 
I thought that the movie underwent heavy rewrites late in the production because it was too gritty for Disney? I think rewrites is what got that movie into trouble in the first place.

Although all together, I think Rouge One was pretty good with some great action. Its not a masterpiece but its entertaining enough. Its one of those movies where the bad stuff kinda stands out in retrospect but while watching it last week I had a really good time.

it was actually the opposite of what is commonly thought. The creative team thought that an ending where
spoilers i guess everyone dies
would be too dark and they had alternatives written (I think) but everybody was fine with it.
 
I agree, but I don't think the "correct answer" would be a combination of both sides. It would be the grasping of something both sides are lacking: real harmony with the Force.

The Jedi reject emotions, so how can they let their emotions flow from the Force?

The Sith wield emotion as a weapon, but those emotions seem to flow from their id, not from the Force.

Neither is truly in harmony with the Force, because neither is truly letting the Force guide them.

All this to say that I hope the answer Star Wars gives us isn't "use both sides in equal measure."

I don't think it's fair to say the Jedi "reject emotions". It's just negative emotions (eg. hatred, fear) they philosophically draw away from.
 
It's not impossible that Finn's rivalry with Kylo ends up going nowhere in the end since the 3 films will all have different writers but it's pretty clear that wasn't where they were going with the conflict they had in TFA. If Rey does end up falling to the dark side there's going to need to be another foil for Ren. I'm really excited to see how this all plays out but my prediction is still that Finn isn't going to end up as a throw away character.

My thing is, Finn is clearly supposed to be the "new Han Solo" type character; if they hit their mark on that is debatable but Finn is supposed to be a kind of Han to Rey's Luke.

and the thing about Han is, after his badassery evading the Empire & swooning Leia in ESB, Han really doesn't do jack fucking shit in Return of the Jedi beside be goofy. He even "defeats" Boba Fett in a goofy way.

So since Finn is supposed to be the new Han type, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he carries the relatively insignificant B plot for these next movies while Rey lives out everyone's heroic fantasies of being a ace pilot trained to be a Jedi by Luke Skywalker himself. Finn fighting First Order ground troops just isn't going to be more or equally exciting than swinging around a lightsaber & using the force.
 
Me either. But maybe they are churning up dust to hide/shield their miltary forces coming in behind them? On the horizon in that shot is a line of walkers. So it looks to be pre-battle.

Yeah, that could be possible. I think the rebels maybe using what they have at hand is a possibility too and they aren't military vehicles or another faction on the planet before rebels get in on the battle.
 
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