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Stargate: Universe Season One Discussion Thread
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SolidusDave
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ugh... so much for the trailer scene in which the aliens enter Destiny through the stargate, it was just an hallucination...
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Chloe being stupid is never a nice twist.randomlyrossy said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Try back in season 2. Season 1's a lost cause.pgtl_10 said:
SpectreFire
Member
Aaaaand people on the internet continue being childish assholes.
I follow Brian J Smith (Lt. Scott) on Twitter, and it seems the fine folks at sgusucks.com have been making less than flattering comments about his mother.
Honestly... really? It's come to this? You know, sometimes sci-fi fans just disgusts me when they pull stunts like this.
I follow Brian J Smith (Lt. Scott) on Twitter, and it seems the fine folks at sgusucks.com have been making less than flattering comments about his mother.
Honestly... really? It's come to this? You know, sometimes sci-fi fans just disgusts me when they pull stunts like this.
British Monsoon
Member
There's a fucking forum specifically for people who hate SGU? :lol
And what's the first two avatar/signatures I see when I click over onto that forum? None other than those eternal bastions of quality televsion; Stargate Atlantis & Legend of the Seeker, fucking lol.
And what's the first two avatar/signatures I see when I click over onto that forum? None other than those eternal bastions of quality televsion; Stargate Atlantis & Legend of the Seeker, fucking lol.
Bootaaay said:
The guy with the Legend of the Seeker sig. :lol :lol :lol
Priceless.
edit: I suppose I could comment on Friday's ep. I'm so damn glad that Scott turned out to be a cheating bastard, or at least it seems so. I was really confused when he hooked up with Chloe because in the pilot ep he was making out with whatshername. He was just one of those Marty Stu's of a character, and it was annoying as all heck.
The episode itself was, admittedly, one of those lame gotcha episodes that shows like to throw at you and only Farscape has done right. But it was still watchable. At least as watchable as Legend of the Seeker.
Deus Ex Machina
Member
Love this show. Can't wait 'til the next episode tonight!
Burger
Member
Yeah I didn't enjoy SPACE TICKS so much, previous episode was better.
Why did Franklin disappear while on the chair ? They totally cliffhanged it in the previous ep, and then do space ticks, with only a passing reference to Franklin ?
Guh.
Still, the show is getting better, and is already better than Atlantis ever was. Plus the female cast is way hotter (see: Epicboobs, TJ......... Chloe not so much).
Why did Franklin disappear while on the chair ? They totally cliffhanged it in the previous ep, and then do space ticks, with only a passing reference to Franklin ?
Guh.
Still, the show is getting better, and is already better than Atlantis ever was. Plus the female cast is way hotter (see: Epicboobs, TJ......... Chloe not so much).
Freyjadour
Member
Yeah much better I thought, hitting the Finale stretch though, so standard Stargate expectations.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So I said this was a let down a while back... anyone else agree?
A shitty bunch of space pirates turn out to be the season villains of the show... and it'll give them presumably another wormhole to return back to the Milky Way whenever. Even Atlantis took longer for them to remove the remote base concept.
I suppose they can't really win with me... but there has to be some kind of medium between space pirates and goth vampires and a Borg ripoff.
Also, yet another pointless SG1 cameo... with Jackson being turned into some kind of scout/team leader now.
A shitty bunch of space pirates turn out to be the season villains of the show... and it'll give them presumably another wormhole to return back to the Milky Way whenever. Even Atlantis took longer for them to remove the remote base concept.
I suppose they can't really win with me... but there has to be some kind of medium between space pirates and goth vampires and a Borg ripoff.
Also, yet another pointless SG1 cameo... with Jackson being turned into some kind of scout/team leader now.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Even though there's way better tech available to everyone already?DeathNote said:
there's more to it than a ship that can harness star energy.... like the knowledge the ship holds sitting in the chair full force. then there's the answer to what makes being there a destiny. perhaps something extremely profound in very deep space they'd never be able to reach with current tech.Freshmaker said:
we're in the perspective of the cast members. some think it's special, destiny, but can't answer why. others just want to get home. we see Lucian and aliens who want to desperately be in their place.
the ancients put a lot of effort into the project. they wanted to board it when it reached it's finished it's journey. whoever controls it gets access to whatever.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
They can go, but can't get back. (Hey, remember when they tried to dial back, but then later decided that old gates don't have the range of new ones?) Yippie-doo.DeathNote said:
Rush is the only one who thinks it's special, and he never bothers to explain why.
They were just looking for a new place to settle to avoid the Ori. That has no real value for anyone but the long since gone ancients.
Also Lucien Alliance is the most boring enemy ever.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
^
Seriously. If you were after technology, Atlantis is a more obvious target. Of course, this show isn't called Atlantis, so we'll just forget that an Ancient advanced flying city-spaceship exists ON EARTH (assuming Universe takes place during or soon after the events of the Atlantis series finale) and just go after the ship that's extremely far away and difficult to get to.
They found a way to connect Atlantis to Earth, so I'm sure they could make up a reason if they wanted to. You're assuming there's internal logic to the franchise... I've since realized that, like everything else, they generally make it up as they go along.
Certainly it's why Atlantis went through 3 commanders in its 5 year tenure.
Seriously. If you were after technology, Atlantis is a more obvious target. Of course, this show isn't called Atlantis, so we'll just forget that an Ancient advanced flying city-spaceship exists ON EARTH (assuming Universe takes place during or soon after the events of the Atlantis series finale) and just go after the ship that's extremely far away and difficult to get to.
RagnarokX said:
They found a way to connect Atlantis to Earth, so I'm sure they could make up a reason if they wanted to. You're assuming there's internal logic to the franchise... I've since realized that, like everything else, they generally make it up as they go along.
Certainly it's why Atlantis went through 3 commanders in its 5 year tenure.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
DeathNote said:
Agreed. But they need to start focusing on why so many alien species (and Rush) want to get on Destiny and have access to its ultimate goal. Yes, suspense is good, but you need something to hang your hat on - else the audience gets bored into submission or you risk the end-game smacking of a deus ex machina.
Huh, that last episode did not suck:
-Rhona Mitra (finally!)
-The aide in the car reading Scalzi's Old Man's War (Scalzi's a consultant on the show).
-that odd, but entertaining little culture clash that occurs whenever Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Universe actors are on the screen at the same time. Stargate SG-1: banter (even when bad things are happening)/the characters actually like each other/humor; Stargate Universe: no joking ever! (except Eli and nobody gets his jokes)/lot of haters
-Also Daniel as the tail, lol.
-Was surprised that Brody went ahead and vented the air at Young's command.
-Camille continues to be annoying and ineffectual. It would be nice if she was actually successful/good at something, just for a change of pace.
-Barely saw Chloe (good thing).
-I really hope that Telford bites the bucket at some point during the next few episodes.
-Eli's annoyance at secrets
Maybe this show has finally started clicking?
-Rhona Mitra (finally!)
-The aide in the car reading Scalzi's Old Man's War (Scalzi's a consultant on the show).
-that odd, but entertaining little culture clash that occurs whenever Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Universe actors are on the screen at the same time. Stargate SG-1: banter (even when bad things are happening)/the characters actually like each other/humor; Stargate Universe: no joking ever! (except Eli and nobody gets his jokes)/lot of haters
-Also Daniel as the tail, lol.
-Was surprised that Brody went ahead and vented the air at Young's command.
-Camille continues to be annoying and ineffectual. It would be nice if she was actually successful/good at something, just for a change of pace.
-Barely saw Chloe (good thing).
-I really hope that Telford bites the bucket at some point during the next few episodes.
-Eli's annoyance at secrets
Maybe this show has finally started clicking?
In the past stargate hasn't done show cross overs especially well, the jackson in atlantis storyline just served to character assassinate the asgard and the teal'c vs ronon thing would have ended up in the atlantis cleaning crew spending a week wiping bits of mushy ronon off the ceilings.
Its also odd that the lucian alliance still exists, SG-1 finished with being on good terms with the jaffa and metric shit-ton of ships they own and having ships with the latest asgard tech that could bitch-slap the ori ships (which they may have too, the ori gave up with a half dozen ships surrounding earth).
I just cant take the lucien alliance seriously as a credible bad guy, in the sg-1 storyline they just had old motherships that could be swatted out of the air.
Its also odd that the lucian alliance still exists, SG-1 finished with being on good terms with the jaffa and metric shit-ton of ships they own and having ships with the latest asgard tech that could bitch-slap the ori ships (which they may have too, the ori gave up with a half dozen ships surrounding earth).
I just cant take the lucien alliance seriously as a credible bad guy, in the sg-1 storyline they just had old motherships that could be swatted out of the air.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
luxarific said:
Definitely cause for notice. Haven't seen her since early Boston Legal.
luxarific said:
Although I doubt he needs the product placement... on a show as ratings "heavy" as SG: U.
luxarific said:
Like night and fucking day. The writers can still pull out the funny, so why is everyone on Destiny apart from Eli and Rush (because he gets a free pass on everything) a humorless sod? They're trying way too hard to make it BSG-lite.
luxarific said:
They're trying way too hard to make it BSG-lite.
luxarific said:
Some steps in the right direction on answering the critical questions about Destiny, yes. But that's what happens when they stop focusing on making it BSG-Lite and start focusing on their own distinct plot.
And, yes: BSG-lite. BSG-lite. BSG-liiiiite. I will keep using that to fit every complaint I have about the show until it passes from having any bearing on or meaning for what I'm saying.
Marty Chinn
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The last episode as one of the few enjoyable ones to me that I stopped what I was doing and actually paid attention. I don't think its a coincidence that it just happened to have SG-1 people in it to make it interesting. It just reminds me how much I miss SG-1 and just the little banter that helps the overall enjoyment of the show even when its serious. The lack of core plot and the all to serious all too pole up the ass of everyone makes it really hard to watch and I love BSG, but this is not BSG.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Enosh said:
What about all the SWAT guys on that mission?
What about Shepard, a guy who pulled off some Solid Snake/Sam Fisher moves back on Atlantis?
dalin80 said:
This is my fundamental problem with this arc. Next to the X-files secret conspiracy junk that plagued SG-1, they are the worst enemies of the franchise based on their averageness.
Enosh
Member
they were there to detain everyone they would have foundfirehawk12 said:
they don't need to know anything beyond "capture everyone Jackson tells you to"
the one looking at the whole thing on the other hand needed to know what was going on and given that Young told O'Neill that the base might be compromised beyond Telford, Jackson was the obvious choice, well Sam or Teal'c would have worked too
SpectreFire
Member
firehawk12 said:
What's wrong with having Daniel being the tail? Unless you missed all 10 years of SG-1, it's safe to say the guy's a bit more than just a archeologist now.
And Shepard? You know, he's kind of busy commanding an expedition in the Pegasus Galaxy.
Android18a
Member
Every time O'Neill quips to Young, he actually just gets totally blank stares back at him. Like a "Is that a joke? On MY show?".
RDA *still* steals the spotlight, even in such a reduced guest-star role.
I'd love to see what happened in a room between Rush, Eli, McKay and Carter. In a life-or-death situation. Imagine the bickering!
RDA *still* steals the spotlight, even in such a reduced guest-star role.
I'd love to see what happened in a room between Rush, Eli, McKay and Carter. In a life-or-death situation. Imagine the bickering!
firehawk12
Subete no aware
SpectreFire said:
Well, unless the Atlantis movie ever gets made, I'm assuming they're all still hanging around at Starfleet Command/San Francisco. :lol
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's a waste of time unless you give the audience some breadcrumbs. Nobody knows what the importance is except maybe Rush. There's no reason for all these groups to be going after the ship.DeathNote said:
If you're in their perspective, this makes even less sense. "We absolutely MUST gain hold of this outdated Ancient tech!" The stuff the Terrans have in general now outstrips even the most advanced ship the Ancients ever built. Really, nobody can stand against Earth right now. They have the best tech in the galaxy. The only reason some fringe group of trash like the Lucien Alliance would want something like Destiny would be for no better reason than that Earth vaguely wants it for some reason. It seems to have no immediate benefit, there is no long term advantage to actually having access to it however. There's absolutely no good reason for them to be going after Destiny.
From the perspective of the locals, the best way to gain power quickly and protect your interests would be to acquire available technology. They'd be better off stealing an abandoned Ori ship, or stealing/copying the Asgard data core. They could even go find an Ancient data repository, and burn out someone's brain getting at their secrets that way. All of that would actually help them immediately, and in the long term.
Destiny offers no discernible advantage to anyone. It is in no way a valuable strategic goal.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Trickster said:
they seem to be building up towards a three-way conflict.
Obviously, any long-term conflict would mean the end of the Destiny crew. I figure the portal will not hold not or Rush will sabotage it on purpose or something. Have the sides exchange some fire (KILLING CLOE), drop in some smurfs: and you have a three-way battle. Cliffhanger.
End of season 1.
The endgame is really not that interesting in any story.
The Librarian
Banned
I haven't watched this show since the first episode of the rest of season one back in April.
I guess that means I've given up on it.
I guess that means I've given up on it.
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