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[BPoole]

At least half of them are Dota 2 & CSGO smurfs and VACation accounts.



Can't tell if hipster or joking

Definitely not hipster

 

[phoenix296]

A 25 million increase and still no Xrd, Disgaea, Persona, or Tales of. PC gaming is a joke.

List a bunch of niche Japanese titles to measure a platform's worth. Current gen console are also a joke if we go by this.

 

[Krusenstern]

What do they all play besides Dota?

Spoiler

*lol* Just joking.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Aren't PC sales declining overall though? Kind of weird that Steams blowing up so much in spite of that.

IIRC it's the shitty prebuilt desktops you get at places like bestbuy that are declining (and for good reason)

 

[Occam]

125 million people who don't care about really owning games (=no property rights).

 

[kodecraft]

Steam can learn a lot from XBL.

 

[The Shogun]

Aren't PC sales declining overall though? Kind of weird that Steams blowing up so much in spite of that.

Not in terms of gaming. High end GPUs are having record breaking sales numbers

 

[Armaros]

125 million people who don't care about really owning games.

Right on schedule.

 

[Can Crusher]

Starting to think these numbers are worthless if it went up 25 million since September.

 

[diaspora]

Steam can learn a lot from XBL.

And Origin honestly.

 

[Boombox On]

Aren't PC sales declining overall though? Kind of weird that Steams blowing up so much in spite of that.

Not anymore.

 

[Chezzymann]

Not in terms of gaming. High end GPUs are having record breaking sales numbers

I'd imagine that people who buy gaming computers are taking up more and more of the overall PC market then to compensate for the overall lower sales, which would explain the growth

Not anymore.

Oh, nevermind then. Thats great news

 

[OverturePT]

Aren't PC sales declining overall though? Kind of weird that Steams blowing up so much in spite of that.

Pre-built.

Starting to think these numbers are worthless if it went up 25 million since September.

Why?

 

[epmode]

My friend has like 10 accounts alone that he rotates through for DOTA 2.

So this is really just 12.5M. Valve always lies!

BTW, Steam doesn't automatically launch with Windows anymore. Not on new installs, anyway.

 

[JSoup]

4500 games, 80% of them crap, and 125 million active accounts, a third of them on at any moment and less than a third of that actually doing anything other than just being online.



Great time to be a PC gamer.

Edited for accuracy, but, still, all and all, good time to be a PC gamer.

So this is really just 12.5M. Valve always lies!

BTW, Steam doesn't automatically launch with Windows anymore. Not on new installs, anyway.

Nope. Active accounts have to have at least one game registered to them with a dollar amount of at least $1. DOTA is free to play, so those other 9 accounts (assuming they only are used for DOTA) wouldn't be counted.

 

[Krejlooc]

125 million people who don't care about really owning games (=no property rights).

1 person with an axe to grind.

 

[jambo]

I'd imagine that people who buy gaming computers are taking up more and more of the overall PC market then to compensate for the overall lower sales, which would explain the growth

It's actually the big pre-built PCs that are coming back in the last 12-18 months. PC gaming enthusiasts would certainly help, but the real movement is consumers buying PCs again.

 

[Can Crusher]

Why?

Too quick. I'm curious to understand the impact of 25 million new users in 5 months.

I would like to understand what's the "attach ratio" or average user spending.

 

[The Shogun]

Starting to think these numbers are worthless if it went up 25 million since September.

Not really. Look at how fast stuff like Dota 2 is growing. 1.2 million simultaneous users daily at peak.

PC is just becoming monstrous

 

[Nabbis]

125 million people who don't care about really owning games (=no property rights).

I have given up on that a long time ago. It was evident that this would happen the moment digital content became a thing.

 

[FyreWulff]

All those bots and phishing accounts.

And what seems like a ratio of 1 customer service rep for every 5 million accounts

 

[BennyBlanco]

125 million people who don't care about really owning games (=no property rights).

Elaborate please.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Thats only 10 million more than watched the super bowl.

 

[jellies_two]

Because people will try to downplay this, as always - active account = logged in within the last month

I would be more interested if active accounts = played a game from a steam library in the last month.

Steam does tend to try to start up when you reboot. A lot of PC users now rarely reboot, but do so more than once a month. If they quit steam straight away (as I do), that would count as an active user.

 

[Chakan]

 

[Nzyme32]

Because people will try to downplay this, as always - active account = logged in within the last month

Was it not the last 3 months?

 

[epmode]

Steam does tend to try to start up when you reboot.

Not with new installs. It hasn't done that in quite some time.

 

[Hellsing321]

Aren't PC sales declining overall though? Kind of weird that Steams blowing up so much in spite of that.

Sales of pre-built computers are down. Sales of graphics cards and other parts are up quite a bit.

 

[-MD-]

So this is really just 12.5M. Valve always lies!

Heh.

 

[Krejlooc]

Was it not the last 3 months?

No. To br technically correct, actually, it's 30 days.

 

[inky]

I convinced 5 friends of mine to finally install it and get some games this past Christmas so I'm partially to blame for the insane growth

2 of them are still kinda hooked on CS GO/Dota. the rest have scattered =(
I gifted one of them FTL (the one I thought would appreciate it the most) and he was all like, "meh, I didn't like it".

Spoiler

We are no longer friends.

 

[Mudcrab]

I would say the Golden Age of PC gaming was the 90s.

This is the Renaissance Era.

I can get behind this.

A 25 million increase and still no Xrd, Disgaea, Persona, or Tales of. PC gaming is a joke.

All these flavors and you choose to be salty.

 

[UnrealEck]

I look forward to reading pages and pages of people trying to find reasons as to why the numbers aren't as positive as we might be led to think.

 

[FyreWulff]

I look forward to reading pages and pages of people trying to find reasons as to why the numbers aren't as positive as we might be led to think.

Always question how a corporation presents their numbers.

 

[Armaros]

I look forward to reading pages and pages of people trying to find reasons as to why the numbers aren't as positive as we might be led to think.

We have already started.

With the predictable responses already.

 

[Feep]

Pshhh. And people are concerned I'm giving away 10,000 keys.

Please.

 

[flkraven]

Still lovin my 5 Digit steam id

 

[epmode]

I look forward to reading pages and pages of people trying to find reasons as to why the numbers aren't as positive as we might be led to think.

Started almost instantly.

The funny thing is that Valve's numbers are the most well-defined of any of the major players. You'll never see Microsoft or Sony give anything resembling a user count from the last ~30 days.

 

[Usobuko]

List a bunch of niche Japanese titles to measure a platform's worth. Current gen console are also a joke if we go by this.

He is being sarcastic jokingly.

 

[JNA]

Feep's Echo game giveaway has really inflated the numbers on Steam.

Feep: The PC Gaming Savior.

 

[Nzyme32]

Too quick. I'm curious to understand the impact of 25 million new users in 5 months.

I would like to understand what's the "attach ratio" or average user spending.

You could look back to April 2014 when ArsTechnica used their crawler. The active user accounts much lower than the actual number of accounts they found. Much of those not included are likely not used anymore, spam, people duplicating for trading / ban issues etc. Taking that into account, it becomes more believable

 

[fluffydelusions]

Pshhh. And people are concerned I'm giving away 10,000 keys.

Please.

It is all your fault!

 

[On Demand]

Will never have one since I like physical products. Good numbers either way.

I see PC vs consoles has already started. Jeez guys.

 

[jambo]

I would be more interested if active accounts = played a game from a steam library in the last month.

Steam does tend to try to start up when you reboot. A lot of PC users now rarely reboot, but do so more than once a month. If they quit steam straight away (as I do), that would count as an active user.

For some time now, new Steam installs have been set to NOT LAUNCH on startup.

 

[JNA]

Pshhh. And people are concerned I'm giving away 10,000 keys.

Please.

Gaben's son (aka lord and savior) Feep Jesus has answered our calls.

 

[FyreWulff]

Started almost instantly.

The funny thing is that Valve's numbers are the most well-defined of any of the major players. You'll never see Microsoft or Sony give anything resembling a user count from the last ~30 days.

"Last 30 days logged in" is not well defined.

How many have an active CC on file?

How many own more than one game that they paid money for?

How many own games or have paid for content that are not TF2, Dota, or CSGO?

 

[Krejlooc]

"Last 30 days logged in" is not well defined.

How many have an active CC on file?

How many own more than one game that they paid money for?

How many own games or have paid for content that are not TF2, Dota, or CSGO?

You do not have to spend a single dime to make valve money. You also don't even have to play a single game. Watch their lecture on embracing ugc to see how they turn raw active account numbers and cross-game trading into real revenue by inflating value of auctions between users.

 

[The Shogun]

Holy shit at the amount of downplaying already.

That didn't take long at all

 

[Crayten]

A 25 million increase and still no Xrd, Disgaea, Persona, or Tales of. PC gaming is a joke.

Tales of Zestiria is more or less confirmed for Steam

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=994883

 

[FyreWulff]

You do not have to spend a single dime to make valve money. You also don't even have to play a single game. Watch their lecture on embracing ugc to see how they turn raw active account numbers and cross-game trading into real revenue by inflating value of auctions between users.

I'm well aware of their monetization setup