(Steam) Publishers to crack down on cross-region gifting/trading

JaseC

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Metal Gear Rising marks the debut of the new AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting flag:

I can see this becoming popular rather quickly.

Edit: This won't affect retail keys; it's just a measure to combat trading/gifting cheaper games via Steam itself. Also, thus far it applies only to South America and Eastern Europe.

Edit edit: Having looked into the flag it seems it actually debuted about 15 hours ago, with the rather expensive Sonar X3 software, so I'm not surprised it flew under the radar until now.

Update (07/03/2014):
Dark Souls 2 joins the list of shame.
Update (27/02/2014):
Edit edit: The flag was re-added to Injustice's ROW sub:

Update (20/02/2014):
The following games now have the restriction:

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- South Park
- Thief
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- Hawken
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And of course there's also Konami's own Lords of Shadow 2.
 
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Was fun while it lasted I guess :-/

Edit:
Just realized this probably means I can no longer get uncut versions/games that weren't released in Germany, which really sucks.
 

JaseC

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What does this mean? It's not region locked but I can't buy it to a russian trader?
The flag means that in certain territories the game is not giftable or tradeable to users located in other countries. Thus far we know that it applies to Brazil and Eastern Europe.

I really, really hope this doesn't effect my Amazon.com preorder. I've never had problems and I'm in the UK. :(
It won't.
 
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This reminds me when Konami made the demo for MG Rising on the PS3 region locked for JPN PS3s only.
I'm guessing this is so that the Japanese ver., whcih I assume will be more expensive than the English ver., would get priority sales in japan?
 

KenOD

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Well that's going to decrease the number of gifts I give. Why do you want to lose money Steam? Publishers? Snake? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAAKE?!

Seriously though, this is a terrible precedent.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if this had more to do with government censorship and taxation than the publishers worrying about currency conversion..
Nah, to me it seems a typical shortsighted publisher thing. Make a few more bucks off the small number of people engaging in cross region trading instead of making things easy for all your customers (and perhaps gain more of them).
 

JaseC

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It's interesting, from the name this seems to be specifically about in-client trading. So keysellers reselling retail keys should remain unaffected?
Retail key subs won't be affected by this flag, no, but publishers can still opt for the onlyallowrunincountries flag, which is just as effective (though something you can skirt using a VPN).
 
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It's interesting, from the name this seems to be specifically about in-client trading. So keysellers reselling retail keys should remain unaffected?
That would be even worse.
Not that I have anything against key resellers (quite the opposite), but leaving them untouched and then punishing users who are doing some honest trading/gifting in good faith would be even more vile.
 

TheSeks

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Metal Gear Rising marks the debut of the new AllowCrossRegionTradingAndGifting flag:

I can see this becoming popular rather quickly.

Edit: This won't affect retail keys; it's just a measure to combat trading/gifting cheaper games via Steam itself. Also, thus far it applies only to South America and Eastern Europe.
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Reposting from the other thread as an example.



I don't get it, the price is the same as the US version and this warning does not appear in that version of the store. It's not like I'm getting a discount on it to justify this, unlike the Russians. What do they win from restricting me to gift this game to people in the US if the price is the same?
 

JaseC

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But if you're caught using a VPN, they'll ban your account.
There are no verified or even reputable reports of Valve restricting accounts due to VPN usage for reasons other than circumventing region-specific pricing (myself and indeed many GAFers occasionally use a VPN to unlock a game early or redeem a region-locked key). Additionally, Valve stopped outright banning accounts almost two years ago now and instead imposes restrictions, so even if you transgress in the most egregious manner, you'll still have access to your library.

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Haha, if this does take off then it simply means I'll be waiting until a 50% discount in most cases.