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[Nocebo]

You tell me how he actually DID.



Yes he did help shape technology, like many other people in the tech industry. It's called doing your job. That's hardly having influence on the world. Dude, read it up loud: Steve Jobs/ Apple had influence on the world. You know how dumb that sounds? I don't see the effects of Apple anywhere outside rich countries, and the effects themselves are gadets, not a way of life. The fact that some people made it their way of life is becouse, as I actually say, people made it that way.

Smart phones and tablet computers don't influence our way of life in a big way? You couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Technosteve]

Hey guys take that horse shit to another thread.

 

[GCX]

Gives it a pretentious persona and gains a following. Yeah, he took some great ideas and made a nice system, but in the end it was all about the profit baby- changing the world, lol.

You really think Jobs did everything at Apple just for profits? He was a billionaire that could had stopped working years ago. Instead he stayed as the CEO until the last minute and even held the iPad2 keynote when he already knew he was going to die in a matter of months.

 

[SmokyDave]

R.I.P Steve, cheers for the iPhone 4.

 

[Mael]

Smart phones and tablet computers don't influence our way of life in a big way? You couldn't be more wrong.

If you're not a gadget hoarder it sure don't.
It sure helped the billions of poor people who got affected by the almighty influence of Apple through the ages.

You really think Jobs did everything at Apple just for profits? He was a billionaire that could had stopped working years ago. Instead he stayed as the CEO until the last minute and even held the iPad2 keynote when he already knew he was going to die in a matter of months.

Vanity could explain it,
seriously that's a horrible argument.
I mean dictators usually die days after being desposed, it doesn't mean they had their countries' interests at heart either.

And what is that? Farming peoples life and data so they can sell it?

Are we also talking about how Facebook changed our way of life now?

 

[Jenga]

Well, it is Steve Wozniak - he was one of Jobs's actual friends, after all.

not even the death of jfk can get in the way of outback onion blossoms

You really think Jobs did everything at Apple just for profits? He was a billionaire that could had stopped working years ago. Instead he stayed as the CEO until the last minute and even held the iPad2 keynote when he already knew he was going to die in a matter of months.

he did everything for the power

did people magically forget he was a known egoist by pretty much everyone?

 

[SeanR1221]

The people getting annoyed really shows how obnoxious anti-Apple people are.

I mean, look at this one Facebook status...

"Do you people think Steve Jobs single-handedly crafted every Apple product or something? First off, the only quality Apple product is the iPod, and all he did was be the president when it came out. Everything else is overpriced and unnecessary."

Anti-Apple fans are ten times worse than Apple Zealots.

 

[Mael]

The people getting annoyed really shows how obnoxious anti-Apple people are.

I mean, look at this one Facebook status...

"Do you people think Steve Jobs single-handedly crafted every Apple product or something? First off, the only quality Apple product is the iPod, and all he did was be the president when it came out. Everything else is overpriced and unnecessary."

Anti-Apple fans are ten times worse than Apple Zealots.

WTF do you even care anyway?
I mean it's a facebook status you basically unhearthed to have people mock I mean seriously do you need your opinion on this post to be validated so much that you need people telling you that you're right?

he did everything for the power

did people magically forget he was a known egoist by pretty much everyone?

Welcome to corporate capitalism, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Do you?

I could care less but that'd be actually quite hard.

 

[sruckus]

Here's Steven Colbert's tribute. It's in typical colbert style. http://gawker.com/5847556/watch-stephen-colberts-tribute-to-steve-jobs

 

[Krev]

I mean seriously do you need your opinion on this post to be validated so much that you need people telling you that you're right?

Do you?

 

[SeanR1221]

WTF do you even care anyway?
I mean it's a facebook status you basically unhearthed to have people mock I mean seriously do you need your opinion on this post to be validated so much that you need people telling you that you're right?



Welcome to corporate capitalism, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Exhibit A.

 

[nubbe]

I don't like Apple products but it is impossible to deny Jobs influence and importance in our technology infested society.

Jobs and Gates are the architects of our world

 

[Jenga]

I don't like Apple products but it is impossible to deny Jobs influence and importance in our technology infested society.

Jobs and Gates are the architects of our world

and what a vapid world of materialism it is

but hey at least gates always pushed stuff like kahn academy and other good things

 

[Mael]

Exhibit A.

Dude you're the guy who searched facebook to find a status you could then come here and say "Look how wrong they are" while making the broadest generalisation you could.
Don't confuse me with your likes (and no I don't mean all Appel zealots, I really mean you).

 

[Shahadan]

Well personally I don't really give a fuck about smartphones and tablets as I think they're a bit useless, but (correct me if I'm wrong here) wasn't he at least partially responsible for the creation/democratization of PC and the mouse (and Pixar, iirc)?

If he was, that's the real game changer for me.

 

[Nocebo]

If you're not a gadget hoarder it sure don't.

I don't know how to ask this without sounding condescending but, how old are the people who say things like this?
From my surroundings it's pretty clear smartphones have made a pretty big impact on the workplace and tablet computers will be invading as well, soon. As demand for being able to manage the user workspace on tablet computers next to just laptops and desktops etc. seems to be coming.

 

[Mael]

Well personally I don't really give a fuck about smartphones and tablets as I think they're a bit useless, but (correct me if I'm wrong here) wasn't he at least partially responsible for the creation/democratization of PC and the mouse (and Pixar, iirc)?

If he was, that's the real game changer for me.

Actually you're right on that except for the mouse part where it's still really older than Apple...and I mean by a long shot.

Why people chose to remember him for tablets and smartphone over that, I have no idea.

I don't know how to ask this without sounding condescending but, how old are the people who say things like this?
From my surroundings it's pretty clear smartphones have made a pretty big impact on the workplace and tablet computers will be invading as well, soon. As demand for being able to manage the user workspace on tablet computers next to just laptops and desktops etc. seems to be coming.

Depending on your sector, there's places where you have absolutely no need for them.
I wouldn't even talk about the whole education system where it's actually making things worse as way to provide even more distractions.
tablets are highly ineffectual if you're not making a presentation or maybe doing some GUI intensive.
I know that if you're in computing you'd be hard pressed doing without a keyboard...unless they're not mono tasking crap anymore.

 

[Para bailar La Bomba]

Until now I've avoided this thread for good reason: my pop recently passed away from pancreatic cancer and seeing photos of Steve in his last days brought back some bad memories. I hope Steve's passing raises some awareness about this insidious disease.

Other notable people who died from pancreatic cancer include Patrick Swayze, Michael Landon Dizzy Gillespie Henry Mancini and Pavarotti.

 

[The Technomancer]

I don't know how to ask this without sounding condescending but, how old are the people who say things like this?
From my surroundings it's pretty clear smartphones have made a pretty big impact on the workplace and tablet computers will be invading as well, soon. As demand for being able to manage the user workspace on tablet computers next to just laptops and desktops etc. seems to be coming.

Hell, I'm twenty years old and I can still remember a time before smartphones. On almost a daily basis I see people carry out tasks with their phones that would have seemed like science fiction fifteen years ago. The iPhone (and by extension the phones that followed) seriously increased the volume of people who are connected to the internet constantly, far more then the Blackberry did, and that level of connectivity is a major shift in how we handle everything from media to communications.

 

[SeanR1221]

Dude you're the guy who searched facebook to find a status you could then come here and say "Look how wrong they are" while making the broadest generalisation you could.
Don't confuse me with your likes (and no I don't mean all Appel zealots, I really mean you).

Let me know when your tempter tantrum is over so I can respond to this.

 

[Jenga]

Patrick Swayze.

RIP never forget

 

[SmokyDave]

Can't we have some catch-all shitbin thread for bitching over Apple as a company and the impact of smartphones?

It's pretty disrespectful doing it in here.

 

[Jenga]

so do you guys think jobs will be reincarnated?


i mean for a buddhist he sure did peddle and promote a shitload of materialism in this world, he might come back as a poodle or something

a miniature white poodle

 

[Mael]

Let me know when your tempter tantrum is over so I can respond to this.

On my part I'll fully await the next post where you'll unhearth a twitter disrespecting your leader.

Can't we have some catch-all shitbin thread for bitching over Apple as a company and the impact of smartphones?

It's pretty disrespectful doing it in here.

Actually that's true but kinda expected I mean, when you've got people talking like it's the death of Van Neumann...

 

[Jill Sandwich]

Can't we have some catch-all shitbin thread for bitching over Apple as a company and the impact of smartphones?

It's pretty disrespectful doing it in here.

You can't change cunts, unfortunately.

 

[GCX]

he did everything for the power

did people magically forget he was a known egoist by pretty much everyone?

Or maybe, just maybe, he really liked working as the CEO of Apple. He was an egoist and perfectionist but you really think he worked at Apple just to gain power? If so, he sure was really passionate about something he didn't care at all in reality.

 

[WillyFive]

Colbert's bit on Steve Jobs was really nice, and got really sad at the end. Even the audience was audibly surprised.

 

[Keylime]

You can't change cunts, unfortunately.

I feel like this should be a bumpersticker or something.

"You can't change cunts"

...people would nod and carry on.

 

[Jenga]

Or maybe, just maybe, he really liked working as the CEO of Apple. He was an egoist and perfectionist but you really think worked at Apple just to gain power?.

seems sorta self explanatory

 

[Jenga]

arguably the best steve jobs send off next to colbert

 

[SeanR1221]

On my part I'll fully await the next post where you'll unhearth a twitter disrespecting your leader.


Actually that's true but kinda expected I mean, when you've got people talking like it's the death of Van Neumann...

Look, found one!

"Steve Jobs rocks, yo!"

Oh no!

 

[Vyer]

Jon Stewart just did a small monologue on Jobs after The Daily Show. Apparently Steve watched and would call when he liked a bit. :/

It's interesting, reading a lot of the tech blogs on how jobs would correspond with them, or seeing that with Stewart saying he would contact him when he liked a show, wouldn't have expected that type of communication.

 

[Jenga]

It's interesting, reading a lot of the tech blogs on how jobs would correspond with them, or seeing that with Stewart saying he would contact him when he liked a show, wouldn't have expected that type of communication.

i wonder if they talk to everyone who calls them

 

[Kermit The Dog]

Modding on GAF is typically of an impeccable standard, but they dropped the ball with this thread. It's an utter bunfight between mourners and contrarians, when this thread should be primarily for the mourners.

It's needs to be cleaned out or locked. I'm not trying to be a smartarse, but it's all a little sad that it came to this.

 

[SmokyDave]

You can't change cunts, unfortunately.

You can with a RealDoll™

....or so I've heard.

 

[GCX]

seems sorta self explanatory

So I take it's impossible for you to think that some people might enjoy their job so much that they do it just because of that. Of course Jobs could had some evil plan to take over the world in the back of his head but none of us know what really went through his mind. I just thought enjoying work could be a possibility.

 

[Nocebo]

Depending on your sector, there's places where you have absolutely no need for them.

Hahahah. Well DUH. That should be obvious. Doesn't mean it's not influential in other sectors and certainly doesn't mean it won't be in the future.

tablets are highly ineffectual if you're not making a presentation or maybe doing some GUI intensive.
I know that if you're in computing you'd be hard pressed doing without a keyboard...unless they're not mono tasking crap anymore.

Same as your other obvious statement.
You say it like there aren't tons of GUI intensive enterprise applications for managers, administrators, sales and marketing folks. Your statements are mind bogglingly narrow minded.

 

[Jenga]

So I take it's impossible for you to think that some people might enjoy their job so much that they do it just because of that. Of course Jobs could had some evil plan to take over the world in the back of his head but none of us know what really went through his mind.

well it's either I take your word for it or the dozens of biographies and insider stories that all repeat the same thing

hell, i'd do the same thing too

im a hella egoist bro

 

[Mael]

The fun part of the whole rivalry between tech companies that, except for a moronic fringe(I hope) of the population, never seemed so at odds with one another.
It kinda feels like politics here where there can be some harsh words to descrbe a position an opponent have or something but in the end they're all friends with different opinions....
Won't be the same reading posts from Voz knowing his alter ego is no longer there I guess.

Hahahah. Well DUH. That should be obvious. Doesn't mean it's not influential in other sectors and certainly doesn't mean it won't be in the future.

Same as your other obvious statement.
You say it like there aren't tons of GUI intensive enterprise applications for managers, administrators, sales and marketing folks. Your statements are mind bogglingly narrow minded.

See what you did there?
You reduced the scope, it's no longer a life changing innovation that will lead the world out of the dark age. Now it's a new product that affect a certain subset of the population for the better.
Also any software B2B has no business having a tablet or smartphone version.
I can agree that it changed the life of plenty of people but it's really not on the scale of say lcd display either.

 

[SeanR1221]

Mael makes me lol.

I have 2 non-verbal clients with autism. The iPad has brought them a voice with an app where they can ask for things.

Similar devices cost triple what the iPad does, and only have one function.

 

[Jenga]

Mael makes me lol.

I have 2 non-verbal clients with autism. The iPad has brought them a voice with an app where they can ask for things.

Similar devices cost triple what the iPad does, and only have one function.

couldn't someone have made a similar program for other laptops

 

[Kermit The Dog]

well it's either I take your word for it or the dozens of biographies and insider stories that all repeat the same thing

hell, i'd do the same thing too

im a hella egoist bro

In the same way the massive and widespread outpouring of lovely sentiment from those that knew his suggest exactly the opposite of the point your making?

 

[SeanR1221]

couldn't someone have made a similar program for other laptops

You want 4 year olds to carry a laptop with them to communicate?

Lol.

It's a universal app. They use the iPad at home, and iPod Touch in school.

The App, iPod and iPad are STILL cheaper than a device that does the same thing.

 

[Jenga]

In the same way the massive and widespread outpouring of lovely sentiment from those that knew his suggest exactly the opposite of the point your making?

oh yeah because there's def gonna be people out there shitting on a dude after he dies of pancreatic cancer

You want 4 year olds to carry a laptop with them to communicate?

Lol.

It's a universal app. They use the iPad at home, and iPod Touch in school.

The App, iPod and iPad are STILL cheaper than a device that does the same thing.

i wouldn't trust a 4 year old with a much more expensive ipad that's fo sho

 

[jmdajr]

Guess this is the preview of what will happen when Bill Gates dies.

shameful

 

[Mael]

You want 4 year olds to carry a laptop with them to communicate?

Lol.

It's a universal app. They use the iPad at home, and iPod Touch in school.

The App, iPod and iPad are STILL cheaper than a device that does the same thing.

Does that mean that there's no alternative or no alternative for the price?
there's a HUGE difference between the 2.
Oh and good for them I guess.
Also I fail to see what that got to do with the use of tech in your everyday workplace though.

Guess this is the preview of what will happen when Bill Gates dies.

shameful

Oh yeah it's going to be INSANE

 

[SmokyDave]

Mael makes me lol.

I have 2 non-verbal clients with autism. The iPad has brought them a voice with an app where they can ask for things.

Similar devices cost triple what the iPad does, and only have one function.

This post lead me to find this article.

That's some seriously cool shit.

i wouldn't trust a 4 year old with a much more expensive ipad that's fo sho

A; They're insanely well made and stand up to all kinds of punishment.

B; Read my link above.

 

[RoninChaos]

I thought Steve Jobs died? Geez some people are making it sound as if Nelson Mandela died, you know, someone who really had influence on the world.

This whole passing away thing and the reactions afterwards scream one thing to me: Cult. I can already imagine the, apparantly, only picture of Steve Jobs ever taken hung up in every Apple Store with people worshipping and idolising the fella.

I imagine the stupid shit this guy just said is all over the thread, huh?

 

[SeanR1221]

i wouldn't trust a 4 year old with a much more expensive ipad that's fo sho

We Otterbox 'em up.

My sister is 16 with autism and holds her iPad like a boom box. Dropped it quite a few times but the Otterbox keeps it in great condition.

Does that mean that there's no alternative or no alternative for the price?
there's a HUGE difference between the 2.
Oh and good for them I guess.



Oh yeah it's going to be INSANE

Here's your 5,000.00+ alternative.

http://www.atlclibrary.org/categories.php?id=3

And the iPad does it better.

In the link Dave posted, we use the first app they list.

One client started using it to ask for things.

The other started stringing together sentences that were dramatically correct. It was incredible to see the parents tear up when that happened.

 

[Mael]

I imagine the stupid shit this guy just said is all over the thread, huh?

Huh seriously we'd had news report the thing like it WAS Mandela dying or something.
Heck we have a current electoral primary campaign here and you got a fucking reporter who managed to link the 2 like it had anything to do with it!
Not saying it's warranted but seriously this thread is kinda safe any way you look at it.

We Otterbox 'em up.

My sister is 16 with autism and holds her iPad like a boom box. Dropped it quite a few times but the Otterbox keeps it in great condition.

Here's your 5,000.00+ alternative.

http://www.atlclibrary.org/categories.php?id=3

And the iPad does it better.

In the link Dave posted, we use the first app they list.

One client started using it to ask for things.

The other started stringing together sentences that were dramatically correct. It was incredible to see the parents tear up when that happened.

That's actually really cool all things considered, not anything that change the world by storm but I'd be damn if I preferred living in a world where that's doesn't exists.
I mean it's not a slight to consider this useless for another set of the population that indeed has no use for it as it is either.
I mean that's the very definition of medication after all, useless most of the time but very life saving when in need.

Even then as for the lasting impact and how the whole thing will go down in history as another Ford or another Edison is a bit too early to tell IMO. But it's fair to say that some people really overeacted to the whole situation.