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Steven Universe Season 3 |OT| Clods Among Us

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God damn, that was a helluva episode.

Kinda glad we're done with Jasper, she's been getting her ass whopped since the end of Season 1.

But shiiit. What happened with Rose and Pink Diamond? How bad did Rose fuck up Homeworld?I love how deep we're getting down the rabbit hole.

I love Peridot in this episode. She's grown a lot as character and she's actually showing some compassion. I also like how she finally is useful in battle.

Lol and I love Lapis' attitude. Lol she doesn't give a fuck about anything.

The self hate from Amethyst was starting to get annoying so hopefully this wraps all this up. The Smoky Quartz was cool in battle but damn that thing fuels nightmares. Very excited for what is in store in Season 4 & 5.
 
Smokey's design is really bizarre but that's what I like about it. It makes perfect sense for a fusion between those two to look and act like that.

I hope they go into more what the deal is with old Smokey at some point too. She said "Amethyst knows us" but I got the feeling that they're separate beings despite being formed from the same gems.
 
Crab said:
The Pink Diamond name-dropping is obviously a double-bluff. C'mon guys, this is A New Hope "Vader killed your father" level stuff. :p
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Part of my mind actually thinks this:

Like, PD is disillusioned with her power and what it means, and somehow ditches the trappings or otherwise disguises herself as a quartz to become more fulfilled.

Would explain how Jasper could be forced to join the Gems later on.

Could work as a double whammy if not all the crystal gems knew. Maybe only Pearl knows. Would explain why she was so certain she knew everything about Rose. Maybe thats sort of the why of her infatuation with Rose: she transferred her forced deference from her diamond (white?) to a new diamond. Tons more heartbreaking shit could be spun from that.

Then the rational part of my mind slaps the other.
 
"Nobody I fuse with, ever wants to stay"- Jasper

Lol hold that corrupted "L" Jasper. I'm not that fond of Smokey Quartz tbh from a design standpoint and personality wise which kinda reminded me of a watered down Sardonyx. The yo-yo is cool though. I thought Peridot in the background was funny and her speech was sweet, same with Steven's words to Amethyst. Back to Jasper real quick, still don't care much for her but can see why she's an asshole to Steven. As for the end about Rose and Pink Diamond, maybe she turned her into Lion and used her as a big ass storage unit with inner vegetation, that would be interesting.
 
God, every part of that pair of episodes was great.

A round of applause for Kimberly Brooks, actually- she doesn't often get many plaudits, but she really sold
Jasper snapping right at the end there
. Peridot gets MVP, as per usual.

Love, love, LOVE Smoky- the exuberance and fun of the character was pitch-perfect for Amethyst and Steven, and the VA absolutely nailed it- legitimately seemed like the natural halfway point of the two characters. Liked the design a lot, too- yeah, it's a little unconventional and raggedy, but it's exactly right for what a Steven/Amethyst fusion would look like.
 
I might be more okay with earthlings if back to the moon and bubbled are more intense and have a "jailbreak" type moment.

I just dont like it when cartoons inject comedy into what should be a more dramatic/cool moment. Jaspers speech at the end was cool though, although if pretty cliche.
 
MartyStu said:
Yep. Before, I think we still had plenty to still consider it. But now? Now it is truly dead.

The questions is this: if Rose is a standard Quarts soldier, where the FUCK does her rather insane and varied power-set come from? Nothing we have seen thus far explains this
.
And yeah, I think we should take a fact to heart: Rose is known for having a silver tongue. That, or she is one of those insanely sincere people whose sincerity and openness confuses the fuck out of everyone around her.
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I think she's an elite. I kinda doubt stuff like her fountain shrine was built by the crystal gems. Rose and Bismuth don't seem the type to approve such a thing. And it's not a memorial because it has her healing power. I think she was a high ranking official, just not a diamond.
 
Chezzymann8022 said:
I might be more okay with earthlings if back to the moon and bubbled are more intense and have a "jailbreak" type moment.

I just dont like it when cartoons inject comedy into what should be a more dramatic/cool moment. Jaspers speech at the end was cool though, although if pretty cliche.
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It was cliche but I don't think it made it less impactful.
Jasper has been beaten down multiple times since Jailbreak. Her sole purpose has been to fight and she's lost every damn time since coming back to Earth, the planet that haunts her the most. Losing out in a fusion battle when her opponent was a reincarnated Rose Quartz, her diamond's betrayer, and a "runt" Amethyst while her partner ditches her is probably the most pathetic thing to happen to her.
 
The AV Club had an interesting note in their review:

Will Steven's fusions with other gems be the same as Rose's? Will they remember who they were? It'll be interesting to find out.
 
My grand unified theory of the end of the Rebellion(major spoilers) :

Rose defeated Pink Diamond but did not shatter her. Rose instead offered the defeated Pink Diamond to Blue Diamond as per the mural in order to get them to leave. But as the Homeworld Gems left, they shattered Pink Diamond in order to instigate the corruption somehow. Discovering this and de-corrupting Jasper is what is going to lead to her joining the Crystal Gems(especially since in my theory it was the other Diamonds who shattered "Her" diamond, and blamed Rose, which means she owes the other diamonds payback).
 
The_Kid said:
The AV Club had an interesting note in their review:

Will Steven's fusions with other gems be the same as Rose's? Will they remember who they were? It'll be interesting to find out.
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I'd bet they'll be different to Rose's, and it'll be a source of emotional turmoil when Steven ends up fusing with Pearl. It'll be Rainbow Quartz, but not HER Rainbow Quartz.
 
Lapis and Peridot are amazing together, loved their meetmorps. But Peri the MVP for real. Still not best gem territory, but she's in her own league of greatness.

"I'm gonna see if Lapis is okay. ...HEY LAPIS, ARE YOU OKAY?"

You're welcome.

Puruzi said:
Som many people seem to not like Smokey's design but I really like it. The only thing I don't like is the weird arm growth. Otherwise I love it.
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Feel mostly the same,
extra arm was weird but I like how expressive they were with it.
 
The_Kid said:
Oh my god. Zuke.

https://twitter.com/laurenzuke/status/762798073110155264
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So the real megaton here is that Steven can fuse with other gems.

Steven/Garnet fusion please.

Temple fusion please.

Stevonnie/temple fusion please.
 
Yeah okay
I want Jasper redemption to happen now

If Peridot's arc was in learning that there's more to live for than obedience to homeworld, it looks like Jasper's is going to be learning that she doesn't have to be alone
 
The Technomancer said:
Yeah okay
I want Jasper redemption to happen now

If Peridot's arc was in learning that there's more to live for than obedience to homeworld, it looks like Jasper's is going to be learning that she doesn't have to be alone
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Amethyst's
"C'mere, sis." line is such a small bit, but oddly powerful and an awesome development for her. She starts the episode obsessed with beating Jasper, and she's calling her a sister by the end. If even Amethyst can forgive her, then there's hope. I wouldn't be surprised if she's the one who asks Steven to try and fix Jasper in a season or two.

Jasper had some really strong stuff about Rose recruiting people after reducing them to their lowest so they would join when they felt like a failure. She's going to be really resistant to being redeemed...but she just needs to learn that relying on others isn't a sign of weakness. The Crystal Gems are strong because they're a family. Jasper literally got beat by Steven and Amethyst's sibling love.

The_Kid said:
Oh my god. Zuke.

https://twitter.com/laurenzuke/status/762798073110155264
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I knew it, I fucking KNEW that was the reference and that Zuke (a K'on fan) was probably responsible for putting it in.

Psxphile said:
She telegraphed that just short of a year ago.
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Zuke, you absolute maniac. It's incredible.
 
The Technomancer said:
Yeah okay
I want Jasper redemption to happen now

If Peridot's arc was in learning that there's more to live for than obedience to homeworld, it looks like Jasper's is going to be learning that she doesn't have to be alone
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YYYYYAAAAAAASSSSSS
Everyone get on the Jasper train. This was a great set of episodes. A nice dose of lore and new stuff as well. Peridot was especially great. I like how her turn was gradual. She was really reluctant to join the Crystal Gems at first, but now she fits right in. It seems like Lapis is starting to open up a little, too.
 
Sagroth said:
My grand unified theory of the end of the Rebellion(major spoilers) :

Rose defeated Pink Diamond but did not shatter her. Rose instead offered the defeated Pink Diamond to Blue Diamond as per the mural in order to get them to leave. But as the Homeworld Gems left, they shattered Pink Diamond in order to instigate the corruption somehow. Discovering this and de-corrupting Jasper is what is going to lead to her joining the Crystal Gems(especially since in my theory it was the other Diamonds who shattered "Her" diamond, and blamed Rose, which means she owes the other diamonds payback).
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Oh shit

That would do it
 
Yeah the end of season 3 is doing it for me like the end of season 1 did. Love every single thing that's going on now.
 
Sagroth said:
My grand unified theory of the end of the Rebellion(major spoilers) :

Rose defeated Pink Diamond but did not shatter her. Rose instead offered the defeated Pink Diamond to Blue Diamond as per the mural in order to get them to leave. But as the Homeworld Gems left, they shattered Pink Diamond in order to instigate the corruption somehow. Discovering this and de-corrupting Jasper is what is going to lead to her joining the Crystal Gems(especially since in my theory it was the other Diamonds who shattered "Her" diamond, and blamed Rose, which means she owes the other diamonds payback).
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I like this but this show has so many curve balls...
 
I sure hope the show won't have rose just pop out of steven with it coming up over and over again.
Sagroth said:
My grand unified theory of the end of the Rebellion(major spoilers) :

Rose defeated Pink Diamond but did not shatter her. Rose instead offered the defeated Pink Diamond to Blue Diamond as per the mural in order to get them to leave. But as the Homeworld Gems left, they shattered Pink Diamond in order to instigate the corruption somehow. Discovering this and de-corrupting Jasper is what is going to lead to her joining the Crystal Gems(especially since in my theory it was the other Diamonds who shattered "Her" diamond, and blamed Rose, which means she owes the other diamonds payback).
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My take:
Rose shatters pink diamond, after all if rose was an opposite of a quartz she would be completely kind those rejected by gem society while showing zero mercy to the diamonds and those defending them. But also, perhaps pink diamond was hidden in lion's mane universe after being popped. After this, I guess the ranks scattered to bail out of earth, as seen in monster reunion. As for the corruption, considering jasper's comment I'm guessing the truth was covered up and either the diamonds directly ordered a corruption bomb to be engaged or for even darker spin that Rose engaged such a device to end the war.
 
In the first episode of today Peridot makes a case about how bad and rushed the Beta kindergarden is. What if it's not a Homeworld kindergarden?

Peridot always praised homeworld for how advanced and precise it was.

So what if this one was made by someone who didn't exactly know what they were doing?

What if Jasper THINKS this kindergarden is Pink Diamond's but actually is Rose's?
 
MartyStu said:
Yep. Before, I think we still had plenty to still consider it. But now? Now it is truly dead.

The questions is this: if Rose is a standard Quarts soldier, where the FUCK does her rather insane and varied power-set come from? Nothing we have seen thus far explains this
.
And yeah, I think we should take a fact to heart: Rose is known for having a silver tongue. That, or she is one of those insanely sincere people whose sincerity and openness confuses the fuck out of everyone around her.
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Rose's power set can be explained as her being a defensive healer in an army that values power. Her powers are fly in quick, set up protection (shield and watermelon), heal, and move on. She has power, but nothing innately offensive. Though I bet Homeworld has rethought it after the rebellion.
 
TheGreatDirector said:
I see what you're thinking but that's not happening.

Jasper can already materialize a weapon.
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I was thinking that they might actually be setting up Lapis and Peridot as a fusion down the road, since their powers are pretty similar. The fusion could have all-around telekinesis! Don't know what you're implying. :b
 
I am gonna assume that
Rose is product of a fision of Pink diamond.

Like Piccolo Sr was the evil part of the nameless Namek, and the good side became kamisama. Rose was the good side...and the evil side is still up in homeworld, not as a diamond, but as something else. Maybe the lion was a byproduct of the fission too.
 
These episodes as of late have been immensely satisfying and leave me wanting more at the same time. It started off a bit aimless at the beginning, but we've got a nice mix of chill episodes with the beach city folk and the adventure episodes that move the plot along with revealing the questions/answers about the gems' pasts and what they (homeworld) may be up to in the future.
 
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